what depth you fishing? what are you targeting? what line class do you want to use? price range?

depth varies lets say 20 - 100 ?? i target dhuies , snapper , and whatever else comes along ,  i want something which holds tough braid , say 50 lb , price range 500  cheers

When you say jigging do you mean with knife jigs or octas? Running 50lb isnt great for demersal jigging just because your rod will tend to be a bit stiff for jigs that are under 200g (it does depend on the rod, I have one that handles 50lb and jigs 150g well).

I really ever only use 30lb max when fishing metro demersals (except if its really blowy and I need a big heavy sinker). More fun, and have still landed reasonable fish no problems (with a bit of fun and line pulling :D).

If you do go something 20-30lb range, you could use it for jigging, driftbaiting, octa jigging, etc. You'd still have a heavier outfit for bottom bouncing presumably?

Cant say i'm a fan of anything heavier, too much effort jigging all day and hard to work the jigs :p. But personal preferences vary, what I like might not suit, but can go into some options for what i'd personally get if you did want to go lighter though.

mate, i've got a stella 20k (80lb braid), and a torsa 30 (50lb braid), both on alutecnos blue jigging rods (Pe 5-8). I mostly bottom bash, and very occasionaly jig. I love my stella to bits, but i have to say that using the torsa is easier, lighter, and much less work than the stella in general. the only time stella is better to use, is when sambo jigging.

thats my 2cents worth.

I think that might be a bit out of his price range Scotto, nice set ups though. What do you have now mate for your bottom bashing dhu boi?

 i got a ugly stick gold series stick 10-15kg outfit running 30lb braid on a sea boy penn reel , just started of with fairly basic combo because i have never used overhead fishing reels before alway been handline or spinners , just startd on basic overhead combo incase  i didnt like the overhead , but i love it and have caught a few dhuies  etc on it .

what do you think of a shimano torium 30 ?

If your not into running the line backwards and forwards with your thumb ,these are top value for your money........If you dont want the level winder go a TLD15 .

i havent done heaps of jigging in general , im just getting into more recently as sometimes you can very limited success on baits ,  most of the time i do use baits and bottom bash but its good to jig if they are not hungry for baits

Hi hlokk  .....was that directed at me ?

No never been jigging , or watched anybody  . I've always been a bait or lure fisherman.

I take it that the charter special is not suited ?

They are different techniques in jigging. If you are jigging for sambos and pretty much continous jig, generally you dont feel the anti-reverse working on "non ARB reels" as you pretty much wind continously as you move the rod up and down. Thats 'mechanical' jigging.

If you're mostly bottom bashing, get an overhead outfit. The outfit you currently have works great for shallow water and upto 60m. In deeper water you use heavier sinkers, so perhaps look at a 24kg outfit, ie Daiwa Saltist 50 or Finnor Offshore 30 and a overhead jig rod like a Berkley Seatec or Silstar Crystal Blue jig.

This way you have two outfits to cover you from the shallows to the deep water upto 200m, if you get that far.

i have a saltist 30TH and a torsa 16n

both are brilliant , just comes down to dollars.

but i'd def rather bottom bash with an overhead

Thanks for the advice , I mostly just bottom bashing for dhuies pink snapper black bum and wht ever else comes along , i never really jigg for sambos , as they are a huge and great sport fish. occasionally i usually hook onto one on a live bait line when we have one out not nessacerily intended for them but they do hit the livies at times. I want something a stronger and smoother then the set up i have now also carrying me from the depths i fish to now and into to deeper water alhough i dont think ill be fishing 200 metres lol , I will take a look at the rod and reels you have recomended me ocean side and what others have said aswell ,  all info is greatly appreciated and many thanks in taking an interest , also interested on jigging for demersals hlokk as you seem very into jigging for them so any info on rod tech , and jigs to try would be great thanks

so there is obviously a huge difference with certain overhead reels between bottom bashing and jigging ? im new to all the overhead stuff sorry

also  for what i want to do what would be better the daiwa saltist 50 or the shimano torium 50 ?  and could anyone tell me the difference between the two much apprecaited hope im not annoying anyone

Toriums really aren't for jigging. The saltist would be better if that was what you wanted to do. Not sure I'd bother getting the 50 though, its a big reel, its just more line and weight.

so toriums are more used for just bottom bashing ?

Well, considering you're not really sambo jigging with it, I dont think it'll matter much either way. If you're talking a reel for the sambo aggs, then ok, it might be a little different.

Something like a saltist or torium would make a good bottom bouncing reel, but not so much fun demersal jigging. The problem is that the rod you match it to will mostly want heavier jigs 200-300g ish (or more if its not a jigging rod perhaps). However, if you're only doing it occasionally, and mostly want a smooth, reliable, strong bottom bouncing reel, it would be a good choice. Just match you're jigs to the rod.

For something like that i'd go with some 200g zests, and 200g fankys (or caprice if you want the real ones ;) ). If you're were only occasionally doing it, then just 3-4 jigs should be fine.

(I tend to use 80-150g jigs btw)

so i can jig nd bash better with a daiwa saltist then a toruim ?

thanks for that hlokk ill try what you have recomended, i might check out the berkley seatec rod and look at both types of reels , as i said i dont do a shit load of jiggin but im trying to get more into working different jiggs for demersals aswell as using soft plastics , because sometimes the fish will just not hit baits.

if you wanna good bottom bash reel maybe have a look at the shimano tekota range had one for years top reel

Both are Star drag reels but the size number to vary between the 2.
Tor 30 is about the same as the Saltist 50
Tor 50 is heaps bigger then the Saltist 50
Tor 20 = Salty 40
Tor 16 = Salty 30

The Saltist can be had in a Leverdrag but again size vary again. From tiny to just big enough.

I suggest you go window shopping and check out what suits you.

do you have them at oceanside honsu ? if so ill come take a peak