Road Rage Rant
So after the Easter holiday madness I have some whinghing to do about drivers. To put it in context i'll go back in time a little; when i was young the old man would take us down south in an old yellow Volvo which tonked along at about 80-90k's. Not only was it slow already, he'd pull over fairly frequently to allow others past, adding more time to the travel (which I whinged about, as younguns do). When he got a better car, the situation was reversed and we'd get people pull over for us, just occasionally, and i suddenly could appreciate the practice.
I don't think I can remember anyone doing this since I've been driving. It's pretty friggin selfish behaviour (caravan drivers, boat trailers etc take note) to be doing 80k's along Indian Ocean Drive on Easter, (along the stretch from-correct me if i'm wrong- before Jurien all the way to where it rejoins the Brand Hwy, where there are no overtaking lanes) with 20+ cars banked up behind you wanting to get past... And the road is fairly lacking in nice straight stretches where you can safely overtake, especially at night... and not to just pull over for 1 minute or less to let some people past. Plus, its friggin dangerous to actually overtake people on this stretch of road, at night, etc. Its made especially worse when the cars immediately behind the slow driver wont overtake, which means you either have to try and overtake 5 or more cars at a time or frog-hop along overtaking 1 or more at a time to finally overtake the slowpoke at the front.
I consider myself a fairly safe driver, my mates even call me a nana at times, but on these long drives if i can do the speed limit I will, and nothing over. If its a stretch with fairly regular overtaking lanes than its not so much of an issue. Sitting on cruise control at 110 I even had half a dozen people overtake me; when there behind me obviously wanting to overtake, I simply do what the truckies do and give em the right indicator and slow down a bit when its safe to overtake me. Not my problem if they want to speed, I'd rather let them past than have them sitting up my ass.
Which brings me to an incident on the way up on Thursday night. I'm guessing it was about 30k's before Jurien, when i found myself behind a 4wd doing about 100. I wasn't right up his ass, but just close enough to overtake if i got the opportunity (I hate tailgaters). Anyway, I've been behind this guy for atleast 5 or 6 minutes when suddenly all his lights go off; initially i thought "shit maybe somethings wrong with his car". Then as he kept driving along like this i began to suspect something was up. I figured, the only light he's got is my headlights...he thinks my headlights are bright enough to drive...He thinks my high beams are on?? Sure enough, he flicks his lights back on and then slows right down. Righto, whatever i'll overtake then. Of course he speeds straight up behind me and chucks his high-beams on, and starts tailgaiting me. I tried flicking my high beams a few times to say "look dickhead, they wern't on" but he doesn't get it. I slowed down to about 70 for a while to annoy him back but realised it was pretty dumb and accellerated up to 110 and away from him. If by any chance you're on this site, what a knob-end you are.
Anyway thats my rant. People with traliers/caravans/boats no doubt have their own views and reasons, but its pretty ridiculous when (especially on the way back on Monday) theres literally 30 or more cars banked up behind them doing 80k's. Rant over.
mw87
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I went through the
I went through the same bull$@#t over the weekend. Had relatively little traffic on the way up on thurs night, was travelling nicely at 100 kph in the old Hilux, get about 10 kms from the Cervantes turn off and there is literally 30+ cars bumper to bumper doing 60kph at times. WTF??? Its not confined to travelling though. On the Mitchell there are so many who sit on 80-90kph, then hit the roadworks and hardly slow at all even though its a 60 zone. Geez it gets me riled up!
carnarvonite
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High lights
Nothing worse than someone up your arse with their lights on low beam when they are loaded up and a boat or trailer on the back. The lights are about the same as being on high beam.
They are just too lazy or don't realise that they need to readjust their lights to counteract the extra weight on the back.
mw87
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Seriously, how many people do
Seriously, how many people do you know who re-adjust their headlights when they hitch on a trailer? I've never ever seen it. No-one.
carnarvonite
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Yellow licky
If you get a nasty copper he can give you a yellow sticker for the same thing.
roberta
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Old fart
used to get d/heads sitting on high beam/spotties when he was driving road trains north. As the high beam hits them straight in the eye with their big side mirrors, so he'd gently nudge the last trailer into the gravel and guess what they got the hint. Then when they pass he'd hit them with his big high beam/spotties for a couple of seconds just to remind them , "Dick now you know what its like to have high beam in your rear vision mirror."
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tim-o
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Spot on Carno, sort the
Spot on Carno, sort the suspension out so it doesnt drag its arse. Vehicles are unsafe like that too
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
tot
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most regular towing people
most regular towing people have rear bags but agree mw87 , never known anyone to do it.
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roberta
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Old farts
1989 Ford Fairmont had gas pumped springs (I think, previous ownder put them on) when we towed the boat with it would level out or something like that Tot, you men would most probably now more than me haha
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tot
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yup thats the go roberta
would be nice to have the system the newer prados have where they auto level using a built in pump.
boys and their toys!!
hows the fishing been up there, is your van booked for the anzac weekend? if not can you pm me please! cheers
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mw87
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You would be dirty on the
You would be dirty on the copper! I don't doubt it though. It makes sense to adjust lights according to load, but its something I've never seen done or even thought about myself!
Pete D
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High Beam
It is safer to have your high beams on when travelling country roads at night (obviously turn off when you see on coming traffic). The only problem, most don't know what that little tab at the base of their rear vision mirror is for! Yeah flick it up....those high beams, or any brighter light will disappear!
Makes it much safer for all. If only all knew.
Cheers Pete
CityFlicker
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So if I get what your saying
So if I get what your saying & I'm pretty sure I do, you think it's a good idea to sit behind someone at night with the high beams on & that fliping the mirror solves all. To say I strongly disagree is putting it very politely. I guess you don't have side mirrors on your car or you would know that the light reflects through those to. I guess you also don't know that when the inside of your car is lit up by some moron behind you with thier high beams on it's more difficult for you to see out the windscreen. High beams behind another car makes it safer you say. How exactly does seeing the car in front of you in brighter light make you safer? Extra ambient light to the sides? No sorry, the little gain you get in light to the sides won't make a lick of difference. If a roo comes up from the side that little bit of extra light isn't going to make a lick of difference to wether you avoid it or not. Maybe you should learn to scan the side of the road using the lights from the car in front of you. If all that is too complicated for you then perhaps you simply need to be reminded that it is LAW to dip your headlights when are less than 200m behind another vehichle.
Moving on...
Fact is WA drivers are the worst in the country. Just ask anyone from another state or from overseas & you will quickly be told this. I've spent my adult life driving all over the country & without a doubt WA drivers are the worst. Race to merge' is a favourite game here in WA & 'let's not use our indicators' while we are at it. 'Let's pace the car next to us on this dual carriageway at 15kmh below the speed limit while blocking everyone behind' us is another WA favourite. 'I don't need indicators, I know where I'm going' is still proving popular, especially at intersections with turn lanes. Not to be left out is the good old game of 'let's not indicate going into or exiting the roundabout'. Still in the top ten after many years is 'I'll sit here in a queue of traffic blocking the driveway or intersection so you can't cross my lane & continue on your journey'. Last in our short little list today is 'I learnt to drive in WA & I'm to stupid to realise I could get into that parallel parking spot much easier if I did it in reverse'.
Seriously, you get this same sort of thing in every state, they are all bad, but WA by far has more of these idiots than anywhere else. Driving over here is a case of 'expect them to do the wrong thing & be pleasantly surprised when on occasion they don't. Thanks christ I didn't learn to drive over here.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
roberta
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I don't agree
with driving during the day with your lights oh high beam, they do also blind you. I drive a black 4x4 and will have my lights on during the day(country or city) when its a over cast day or raining. But never hve them on during the day otherwise. I'm also very aware of high beam as I also have strong spotties for night driving here in Leeman, especially to spot wild life on the road. Don't use spotties in the city, have their covers on and correct me if I'm wrong but think its still against the law to have your spotties on (night) in suburbia, they should have their covers on.
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mw87
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Haha, so true CityFlicker.
Haha, so true CityFlicker. Agree 100%. Maybe signs with 'Keep left unless overtaking, Fines exceed $200' may help? They seem to do an ok job over East.
grayzeee
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Just one of my driving
Just one of my driving gripes is drivers not keeping up with the flow of traffic on Perths already ponderously slow speed limited roads.
(70kph on dual carriageway
)
FFS keep up , merge , stop slowing down to look at the frikken bingle . How hard can it be?
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
sea-kem
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Like!
Like!
Love the West!
fishy fingers
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or driving uphills
anyone use the kwinana freeway in the mornings? if you do you will know that perth drivers cant drive uphill!...coming up the hill before roe hwy turn off traffic slows to a crawl then speeds up like a roller coaster when they reach the top and go downhill! and it causes que's all the way back down to russel road and beyond, same coming south in the afternoon round the roe hwy once beyond armadale road it speeds up to normal.... go figure!
CityFlicker
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That's because they havn't
That's because they havn't figured out what the pedal on the right does yet & that they need to press it further down to maintain thier speed going up a hill. Goes hand in hand with another WA favourite game 'let's pull out of the intersection in front of a car & expect them to slow down for me'. Wait for a bigger gap or plant the foot & get up to speed so I don't impede the poor bugger I just pulled out in front of is how it should be but they won't figure that out until they figure out what that blasted nuicance pedal on the right is for.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
cudbfishn
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Na its because everyone who
Na its because everyone who wants to turn off at roe is in the right hand lane and has to slow down and cut everyone off in the left hand lane to turn onto roe, instead of getting into the left hand lane kilometers ago. Also its another case of "I have to slow down to get onto the off ramp" were you have a massive big hill and 200m to slow down on the off ramp. But no they break on the freeway to turn off. Same thing coming down the on ramp. You should be doing the same speed as the people on the freeway to merge. Not 60kmph and expect everyone doing 100 to slow and let you in. I can even get to 100 kmph by the end of the on ramp and i tow a trailer.
meglodon
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+ 1
Oh how true that is, it gets right up my nose when people do exactly that
Justin M
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Oh freaking yes...people
Oh freaking yes...people slowing down to move into a bloody offramp is asolutely irritating, particularly when the going is clear on the off ramp.
roberta
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FF have
you also noticed people take their foot off the accelorator pedal when going around bends why the hell they do that has got me stumped.
Bends are well signed at what speed to proceed.
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fisherking
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LOL at the OPDo you know how
LOL at the OP
Do you know how long it takes to get back up to speed when your're towing something heavy?
If you stop & let 20 cars past once, how often do we need to do it? We'd never make our destination & we only have 4 days off work as well.
The legal, max limit when towing is 100km/h in WA & that is what I will travel at, if safe.
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde
shortfuse
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I think the point is that the
I think the point is that the smart driver who shows some courtesy would not get to the point of having 20 cars behind them in the first place. I regularly tow 3t of boat and its not hard to just back off for a moment and let the fast traffic past. Saves everyone the frustration and may prevent some impatient knuckle head from killing someone else
Buz
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Not condoning the practice at
Not condoning the practice at all, even believe its illegal. But having quiet powerful rear facing spotlights helps with people that want to tailgate you at night or wont dip their highbeams behind you. :)
I have only driven the new Indian Ocean Dve once during the daylight, and all the slow towing people(dont have anything against someone whos car i think cant tow that fast but its annoying to see a 200 Landcruiser pulling a tinnie or camper trailer at 80km/h!) and people banking up their arse but not willing to overtake was enough for me to decide never again. Now every time i head north along IOD i leave Perth about 11pm and its fantastic! I am generally the only car on the road, car likes the cooler temps and i havent seen a Roo yet driving this late along there.
Same during the Easter weekend when i went down to Busso to see my Mum, i left Perth at 10pm on the Thursday night and left Busselton at 9pm on Monday to come back. A few people on the road but a very nice drive. If you can handle doing night driving its sooooo much nicer.
new age
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+1 for sitting next to cars
+1 for sitting next to cars in dual carriageway/overtaking lane
cudbfishn
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Police should start
Police should start enforcing the "keep left unless overtaking" law. That would do a world of wonders.
holth
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afew more overtaking lanes
afew more overtaking lanes on the Indian ocean drive would of been good. nice way to go north but terrible in traffic.
Swompa
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I was part of the convoy
I was part of the convoy returning from the north, down the Indian Ocean Highway on Monday. We headed off from Jurien at 9:45 and instantly got stuck behind some one doing 80 in the 110 zone. It was a new cruiser, towing a small ish pop top van. We were able to overtake him just out of town, then got stuck behind a boat doing the same. Just after Cervantes, we got past him then joined an even longer queue behind a couple of vans.
The thing that really gave me the shits, and reconfirmed that some people are really inconsiderate twats, was when we finally got to an overtaking lane, these people that were quite content doing 90 for the past 30km, speed up in the left hand lane so only a hand full of cars get past them.
The thing that really gave me the screaming shits was just before Wanneroo, where we were in the 90kmh convoy. We see overtaking lane in the distance, change down a gear ready to get around, and let as many other cars around me as possible (I was towing a camper trailer) and the idiots ahead of me (a truck with a heap of quad bikes, followed by a support van) proceeded to remain in the right hand lane, and do a slow speed overtake, and REMAIN IN THE RIGHT HAND LANE meaning that after they had gone past (doing 95kmh), only one other car was able to go around the van, now also doing 100, in the left hand lane, meaning that everyone had to break when the lanes ended and merged back together again.
Overall it took us 3 hours and 20 minutes each way to sandy cape, and on the way up, we sat on the freeway for 30 minutes during peak hour…
Goatch
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Don't know whether
I'd label WA drivers the absolute worst , we came across a lot of halfwits in Queensland I give you the tip ,(while doing a lap of OZ) so many near misses where it was just dumb luck no one died . Overtaking on crests , blind corners , no road lines(new work) and blue metal the size of golf balls and people just not giving a fuck about there fellow road users , sign of the times I think , don't know what anyone can do to change it .
Just one more cast , honest !!!
mw87
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Studies have been done. WA
Studies have been done. WA drivers are statistically and officially the worst.
roberta
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Did a quick trip to
Geraldton on Wednesday and yes had the same dicks driving but not towing sitting 80klms in a Hiace van and then a older Nissan, why the hell do they drive that speed, thankfully I had a good stretch to overtake. 90klm to 100klm is apparently good fuel use especially in a desiel but come on if you sit on 90klms please pull over. Trucks do pull over (have seen it) and they have 40 ton on, yes its a bit slow getting up to speed but it sure relieves the frustration for drivers following.
When we towed the boat up to Leeman in the Hulux old fart always pulled over and let people go, as the old girl would sit on 100klms but on the hills she was a bit of a sludge bucket as I call her now hahaha Road manners has long gone in the last 30yrs or so, as the same for the boys in blue. Didn't see one cop car with our trip to Gero and back.
From Leeman to the end of Indian Ocean Drive think they need a few more over taking lanes as well
PS...........Gum tree was open when we went past, seems it will be locked up for long week ends and maybe school holidays will find out from the shire when we go today.
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DTrain
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I've been up to Geraldton or
I've been up to Geraldton or further north a few times and I recon the Brand highway is definitely better than the Indian Ocean Drive. The Indian Ocean Drive to the north of Green Head is narrow and winding and if you get stuck behind someone there is nowhere to pass. You get trucks on the Brand highway but at least the road has lots of overtaking spots. It's usually people towing big heavy caravans/boats that sit on 90 kmh to save petrol that slow things down not the trucks.
madkev
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130
Time to put the limit up to 130 I reckon like in NT.
Cruise Control
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+1 for the nobheads that
+1 for the nobheads that drive at 80kph in single lane and when they hit an overtaking lane they suddenly find the accelerator and speed up to 110kph only to lose it again when the overtaking lane finishes. I just cant understand that thinking at all !
sea-kem
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That drives me insane!
That drives me insane! Pardon the pun.
Love the West!
spinksy
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i think they
sit at 90ks cause that is the speed limit for towing a trailer!!
fisherking
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I think you'll find it's
I think you'll find it's 100km/h when towing.
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde
roberta
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thats correct
100klms for towing trailers, boats, caravans and trucks
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tangles
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mirrors
unfortunately there are sad sacks everywhere mate n they are the ones that cause accidents! when im on my bike n they tag behind me really close or w beams on i turn my mirrors out and i can tell ya theres nothing worse than having your own reflextion from yr lights glaring back at ya! seems to stop them pretty quick mate! just let em go and concentrate on getting home safe!
fisherking
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It amazes me how everyone
It amazes me how everyone agrees that WA drivers are the worst drivers, yet I've never actually spoken to one that admits it.
Go figure.
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde
CityFlicker
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Of course they don't admit
Of course they don't admit it. Most bad drivers probably think they are brilliant drivers. I'll bet you think your a great driver but it seems your too self interested to slow down 10kmh on a straight stretch of road & let a few cars past. If I can do it in the truck when I'm hauling 35-40 tonnes I'm pretty sure you can manage it in whatever little rig your getting around with.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
fisherking
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Surprisingly I have done
Surprisingly I have done more miles NOT towing a trailer & able to do the 110km/h speed limit. So therefore I too have been held up by trucks, trailers, caravans, boats & tractors.
The ONLY thing that has EVER pulled over & let me past is a tractor & the driver did this out of courtesy, not because he felt pressured.
I'll slow down & let trucks past, never said I wouldn't. I even sit on channel 40 on the CB, if I see a truck behind I'll tell him if its clear & ask if he would like to pass.
It may come as a shock ClittyLicker, I also have a HC licence & use it almost every day.
When was the last time you actually pulled over to let some impatient prick get by??
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde
CityFlicker
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So your pretty much saying
So your pretty much saying "if nobody else does it why should I?" That attitude right there is 3/4 of the problem.
Last time I pulled over to let a few cars past? Last week on the way back from Carnarvon actually. I'll at the very least slow down on a decent straight stretch if I've got a few cars banked up behind me & flick the right indicator to let them know it's safe to pass. Don't usually have any problems being on time either.
You can call me names, names don't bother me & there's worse things to be called than that. You have a HC licence, good for you, just like any other class licence, just because you have one doesn't mean your a good driver.
Whatever you say though, I'm sure you think your a brilliant driver & can do no wrong. Not like the rest of us mere mortals that do our best but still make the occasional mistake.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
marble
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whatever
whatever
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Grunter
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Your
pretty good at putting words in other peoples mouths ("if nobody else does it why should I?" )where did you pull this from out of what Fisherking wrote.
cudbfishn
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I dont think wa drivers are
I dont think wa drivers are the worst, our roads probably are but.
CityFlicker
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Most WA roads are actually
Most WA roads are actually pretty good on a national level. Sure there's some shockers that need serious work done but generally the roads over here are pretty good. If you want some crap roads go give Adelaide, Hobart or even Sydney a run. Some of thier roads are brilliant but taken as a whole I reckon WA roads are better than those 3 cities at least.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
cudbfishn
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Sorry I meant the road
Sorry I meant the road infrastrusture. For example Kwinana southbound, 6 lanes merging to 2 in less than a kilometer? How come Leach highway and South St are 3 lanes wide and not the freeway?
CityFlicker
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Yep I'd agree with that. Not
Yep I'd agree with that. Not enough dual carriageways over here & the ones we do have merge into single lanes in the stupidest of place. I can't work out why freeway north & south are not 3 lanes the whole way either, seems pretty bloody stupid to me.
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
Versus
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Think i hit a nerve here!
Think i hit a nerve here! I've also worked with people from overseas/interstate who reckon WA drivers are the worst they've ever seen. Although I don't think I'd ever want to trade for somewhere like Indo haha.
Just to re-iterate, I definately did not have high beams on behind that clown, and he definately did not make any effort to help/allow me to get past him (until he pulled the lame trick).
And Fisherking, honestly what a crap attitude. That really sums up what this whole post was about. No consideration for others at all. Heres a little math; Travelling 250km's, doing 110km p/hr, I will reach my destination in about 2hrs 15mins. Stuck behind a caravan doing 80, it would take me about 3hrs 10mins. Thats an extra 55 minutes, so basically an hour. Do you honestly think pulling over maybe twice will add an hour to your trip? (I know you said you do 100 but plenty of others do less than that, and seem to have the same attitude as you).
It doesn't even have to be completely pulling over and coming to a stop, as I mentioned you could give the right indicator and pull to the side just a little when theres decent room for overtaking. And same goes for the slower drivers that sudenly speed up when they come to an overtaking lane, I thought i was imagining things but apparently not! They should slow just a bit extra and let as many people past as possible.
Only came across one Roo on the way up (at night), who did his best to face plant into the bullbar but thankfully I saw him in time.
fisherking
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Same old shite. If someone
Same old shite.
If someone DARES to disagree.
You know, you cant ALL be right, ALL of the time right. You do know that hey??
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde
CityFlicker
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Do you?
Do you?
Just because I smile & nod does not mean I believe the crap coming out of your mouth.
All people have the right to stupidity but some abuse the privilege.
Willlo
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Wasnt there a post before
Wasnt there a post before Easter advising its better to stay home ? LOL. We did, fished local 3 of the days and did ok wouldve been lucky to do 100kms all weekend ahh stress free.
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carnarvonite
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Take a deeeep breath
If you are that impatient, I suggest you take a deep breath, sit back, watch the trees go past and enjoy your drive because whatever you do it isn't going to stop the other idiots trying to get passed in the effort to save 10 minutes off a 10 hour trip and scare everyone to death on their way.
Nothing used the shit me off worse than when driving a truck at its 100 clicks and you could see the peanut 5-6 cars back busting his arse to get past so he could see the road better then promptly slowing down to 90 once he got by and they wonder why they look in the mirror and see the bullbar 10 feet behind
Grunter
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Versus
I think your maths are out of whack(Travelling 250km's, doing 110km p/hr, I will reach my destination in about 2hrs 15mins) 110kph is the open speed limit but i think on average we would only travel at roughly 90kph when it comes to all the slow downs for country towns and roadworks ie 110 to 80 to 60 then 60 to 80 then back to 110 ,pee breaks etc etc.15 to 20 minutes differance i can agree with but not 55 unless you are averaging at least 110kph and if you stick to the limits that is not possible.
fisherking
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"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde
Versus
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Date Joined: 06/03/09
Yeh, I was actually being
Yeh, I was actually being conservative, talking about a say 500km plus trip. For probably more than half of that trip your in 110 zone. On heavy traffic periods like Easter its highly likely you'll get stuck behind a few people towing various things. My mate that was also in Dongara for Easter left about 2pm and reckons it took him 5-6 hours to get to Perth, and he was doing 80-90 K's the whole time due to being stuck behind people.
I don't really care that people towing trailers etc can only do 80 or 90 K's, it just shits me that I don't get the same courtesy that I (try at all times to) extend to others. Treat others how you want to be treated and all that. It's selfish driver attitudes that are the root of alot of our road problems.
sea-kem
Posts: 15246
Date Joined: 30/11/09
On my regular drives to
On my regular drives to Seabird I try to set my cruise control to the limit but invariably get slowed down by people that can't seem to keep to it. On the other hand I'm happy to let all the impatient speeding, tailgating tossers go past as there's usually a camera on a Friday night in the Hester ave area.
Love the West!
tim-o
Posts: 4657
Date Joined: 24/05/11
Dont drive at busy times and
Dont drive at busy times and dont drive slug cars like diesels, dont get upset, fit a LOUD AS FUCK truck horn, some spotties to the back of your car and a flashing blue light on a BIG FUCK OFF bullbar. Human incompetence is a disease suffered by 90% of the population, so on any drive you will encounter DUMB FUCKS, just ram them off the road or briefly simulate a police pull over to entertain yourself or simply overtake and imitate a dick on your forehead by hitting it with a curled hand and move on, get on with life, GET OVER IT. There are people that dig holes for a living and others that are brain surgeons but they all can get a drivers license, so not all (many) are guna be good at it or anything really. My work is 5 min from home, and any other driving is generally done at non busy times otherwise the mrs drives and I just suck on a coldie, chew some tong and scope fishwrecked on my fone. The less negative impact on my life from HI sufferers, the happier Im guna be
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
Dale
Posts: 7930
Date Joined: 13/09/05
I don't drive an overly lot
I don't drive an overly lot these days, mainly just around Busso when I'm home or to the airport and back again for work. This is what pisses me off. Truck drivers who sit in the right hand lane on the freeway, engine and speed limiters cutting in at 100kmh and they are he'll bent on getting around the car doing 99kmh, hog the right hand lane for a few ks while traffic banks up for miles. These guys need to suck it up, sit in the left lane, and if its so important, then wait till traffic thins out a bit. And I generally sit a couple of ks over too. I don't hide that. My cruise control is set on 113kmh when I'm heading south and the freeways finished. But I won't sit on your date with my high beam on. I drive last years XR6 so my overtaking manoeuvre when I'm able will be starting 150 meters behind you and will be all over in the twinkling of an eye. If I can't doit, I wait. No road rage or yelling and screaming, just wait and bide my time. My headlights are always on, day and night, and if you want go past me, then go for it. I respect the caravans and the boats, I understand they can't go too fast. If I'm stuck behind them, then I suck it up and wait. Time will soon come to get around.
thats my spiel.
cheers
Dale
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf
cudbfishn
Posts: 1311
Date Joined: 06/04/09
The other hard part is that
The other hard part is that everyones speedo is wrong. My new car is 5kmph out my last car was only 1. My mrs car is 7kmph out. So its hard when people think they are doing the speed limit when there not. Ive had 3 gps's lined up across my dash and they all read exactly the same speed, and yes they were different brands. I know exactly what speed im doing.
squidder
Posts: 457
Date Joined: 03/09/10
Rude C's
that do not dip their EURO headlights and the other fkrs that replace their headlights with these new fan dangled lights HID with 90w low beam and 130w high beam should be banned. They are a head fk on your eyes. 240 roo shooters light gets their attention real good. As for the trucks wanting to pass some ignorant C doing 99k, feel for SOME of the truckies that do the CORRECT speed not 104 along with some that do 120, they're the ones that pulling into gear.
Maybe a roadside blitz on the LAZY C's that don't adjust their headlights would be good.
Mattb123
Posts: 126
Date Joined: 09/01/13
I spend half my time stuck
I spend half my time stuck behind morons going too slow, half my time with people busting a gut to evertake me at 20kms over the limit, and half my time with some asshole tailgating me with his high beams on.
Goddam lucky I'm perfect as I'm already spending 150% of my driving time being hassled:)
fisherking
Posts: 730
Date Joined: 29/05/08
A wise man once told me, many
A wise man once told me, many years ago, there are 3 things you shouldn't discuss with friends
Religion, Politics & the way they drive.
Wise words I think.
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." - Oscar Wilde
uncle
Posts: 9659
Date Joined: 10/02/07
there was some real road rage in clarkson
some guy stabbed in pretty bad incident, don't know where all this shit will end
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
sstevee
Posts: 472
Date Joined: 15/11/11
IMO, not enough cops in
IMO, not enough cops in patrol cars targeting this crap!! Its all good and well to have cameras that raise millions in revenue but they can't detect road rage, unsafe vehicles, drunk drivers, failing to indicate and general unsafe and stupid driving habits...
scubafish
Posts: 964
Date Joined: 15/08/12
My story, car park rage.
Booragoon ,CBA Eastern side car park.When working has a armed guard we parked the truck behind a car (one car)V8 landcruiser latest model, in the car park (had to, on other choice )went to service the bank 5 min job when we got back to the truck a lady was standing at the back of the truck on the phone "going off her nut"we have a 1800 number on the back of the company truck (assh@#$%)"My driving is on display" she was going troppo on the phone then she started on me quote"what sort of fu#$%^$ idiot parks here you fuc#$%$# idiot you yosless fuc#$%$ idiot"end,and still on the phone by the way ,as per company policy did not exchange any verbal conversation with her at this point my partner got in the truck and moved it out of the way ,all good,NOT.She still stood their going off her nut,you Fuc#@#$ idiot ,what sort of stupid idiot ect,ect,ect not getting into her car and driving off,so SNAP,i calmly walk up to her and said QUOTE:All the starving and poor people in this world and you stand here going off your face about a parking spot,are you serious ?:well did'nt that start something,she cranked it up 10 fold ,quote:you can't intimidate me just because you have a gun on etc,etc,etc. Finally she got in her car and drove off.BUT WAIT IT DOESN'T STOP THERE,got back to base was dragged into the office please explain told them the story ,was told they would investigate it will get back to me .One week later called into the office told that i was getting a letter on my file for bad conduct and that i could have handled the situation better.My partener apparently testifyed that he would have handled it didfent.Waked out the office just thinking you bunch of fuc%$# morons.And gave my so called partener a few words.Qwit soon after 27 year of service down the shitter.
meglodon
Posts: 5981
Date Joined: 17/06/10
sorry to hear that
sorry to hear that scubafish it seems to me that some people just go around looking to make life bloody miserable for others if they can, and if you are identifiyable by company shirt etc then they will target you.
Redfinman
Posts: 80
Date Joined: 18/10/09
My rage
I travel 8 k's to work and I get very pissed off with mobile phone users of all types, bad merging blind people, not seeing the speed limit changes from 70 to 60, frigging tail gaters and V8 ute knob heads.
I am a Lecturer at an RTO and I cringe at what I see as the future of WA.
Rant over.
bitten
Posts: 803
Date Joined: 07/04/10
more fool you for taking
more fool you for taking indian ocean drive at easter time
Versus
Posts: 918
Date Joined: 06/03/09
Yeh I know, i'll go brand
Yeh I know, i'll go brand next time :/
crasny1
Posts: 7025
Date Joined: 16/10/08
Drove down from Karratha to Mandurah
When moving south and going FIFO. Got to IOD at about 7pm on a Friday night. Stopped 3 times for RBT and Lic check between IOR turnoff and Wanneroo!!!!. Once with 6 cars waiting with two coppers doing the stops and tests. Now I know they are doing a job trying to catch the pissed fisherfolk driving but that was overkill.
Never again IMO as this added more time to the travel than it would have on the Brand. Travelling up in daylight on a non busy time I might try it again, but IMO the last section going north is very winding, narrow and potentially dangerous with little escape runoff and overtaking opportunity. Brand is heaps safer despite the roadtrains.
Neels
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
D_d_001
Posts: 1522
Date Joined: 09/03/13
Just agree that everyone
Just agree that everyone should just realise that the roads are everyones.
to try to put a different perspective on it. I tow regularly both in perth (horse floats) and travelling north. travelling with a horse float with "horses standing " in it is a slow business. can usually travel at speed on a straight road but when I turn a corner...unless I want a $5k vet bill (or to use my 3030 for that matter ) I need to take it verrrrry slow. having a horse go down in a float is not a pretty sight especially when it's a loved pet.
I get people honking regularly giving me the finger and cop all sorts of abuse but I like to believe (cos I pay my taxes too !) that I should be able to use the roads to move my horses when I need to at the appropriate speeds.
I also tow a 6m boat up north when I can. last time I took it I got to about Gingin somewhere travelling to Exmouth. came up on a caravan travelling at 80kph ...I try for about 95kph...but when we get to a dual passing lane I want to pass too. hey I have 12more hours to drive and I don't want to spend it at 80kph.....I believe (and when I pass I put my foot flat but I pass slow.....sorry I don't have a 7.2lbrunswick) I should have a right to pass even if I do it slow (which is as fast as I can)........any way last time this happened had a ....you guessed it black ute tailgateing me honking his horn with spotties on full. obviously he thought I didn't have the right to pass and should sit behind at 80kmph for the next 12 hours. (hell maybe he just thought he owned all the roads) he eventually got in front gave me the finger and a whole lot of abuse and off he went.
my point is I understand people want to overtake fast and let as many through as possible ......and I try when I can but it's just not always possible
meglodon
Posts: 5981
Date Joined: 17/06/10
just a point look at how many people are
look at how many people got killed on the roads over the easter break. One state/territory stands out as having no one killed yet has unlimited speed on it's very good open roads, now why is that
D_d_001
Posts: 1522
Date Joined: 09/03/13
least populated state is one
least populated state is one reason
Buz
Posts: 1555
Date Joined: 28/08/07
Speed in the NT is limited to
Speed in the NT is limited to 130 in the 'open' sections now.
Plus they have far fewer roads than any other state(Really only 3 Major Hwys) and the ones that you can drive 130km/h (only ouside of built up areas/towns) are most the time well made, very straight and flat.
Mind you always the chance of hitting a pig, cow, buffalo or donkey up there too :) Cars usually dont fare as well when they hit some of these larger animals :)