Rd 17

 Surely North start as favourites?

 

I'm hearing Ross Lyon has given his Tennant's notice as he's the unbackable favourite to take over from Simpson.

 

She'll be a loooong rd ahead with the big dogs at the eagles on the big bucks...

 

Mcglovin 1mill

Shoey 

Yeo 

Gaff 

Kelly 

Allan 

 

All on big dollars!!

 

Gws about to go down the same rd if they are stupid enough to sign Kelly for 8 years!!

 

 

 

 

 

 


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So much for getting all our

Tue, 2021-07-06 09:10

So much for getting all our big guns back.... I seem to remember telling you Boon that Kelly is a 4th string midfielder.

We need to see what Gaff is worth on the open market to get back into the draft as we are on the edge of the cliff.

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I’ve just about given

Tue, 2021-07-06 09:36

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I reckon you're pretty tough on Yeo and Shuey Boon

Tue, 2021-07-06 17:07

 Just coming back from serious injuries and needing time to get some good match fitness up.

Yes, Gaff could probably go, Kelly hasn't set the world on fire and Mclovin's form aside from injury hasn't been great too.

A few others come to mind too like Sheed ( gets the ball a lot, but doesn't do a log with it), Darling, Cole etc etc.

Time the young players get more game time I reckon.

So Sam Mitchell in line to step in as coach at the Hawks down the track. Happy with that succession planning Boon?

Norf Melbourne must be quietly confident....

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Bit tough on Sheed

Tue, 2021-07-06 17:40

Market has him leading the Brownlow votes for the Eagles

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 They can have Kelly boon,

Tue, 2021-07-06 17:45

 They can have Kelly boon, just another recruit that wanted to come back to W.A. and now he is here is making up the numbers.Doesnt go hard for the ball just waits around the edges for an easy stat.

If they don't respond this week with a big win that tells me things aren't right in  the club.

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 Yep had exactly the same

Tue, 2021-07-06 18:08

 Yep had exactly the same discussion on the weekend with my boys. On an easy meal ticket.

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 Gday Lads, Yeo ( gun ) Shuey

Tue, 2021-07-06 21:01

 Gday Lads,

 

Yeo ( gun ) Shuey ( has his moments ) may be injured Gadsy but thats not my gripe with my list above....

 

These fuckers ( Mcglovin ) hold their club to ransom ( ie Grundy 7 years 7+million )....

 

Saw in the paper the other day, WC were the worst of the lot for having their top end blokes on big dollars...

 

Add to that the club folding to get Kelly back for two first rounders and looks like strife to me....

 

I've said it before on here that Mcgovern won you a flag ( Sheed kicked the goal but he did the hard yards ) so there is a dollar value on that BUT I'm not a fan of these blokes asking for big bucks and basicall holding the club that gave them a chance to ransom....

 

Yes Frosty you rated Kelly 4th rate, that was in a year he got runner up in brownlow at a Club that had one of the strongest midfields going around, hard to knock the bloke in that year but WC got lured in by the chance of silverware with a good list and adding him to the mix....

 

GWS will be fucked for years if they lock Kelly in for 8/8.... He has never played a full year and it will squeeze other talent out meeting his contract demands...

 

WC will roll Nth and should cruise on into finals with a pretty easy run home but they have some tough decisions in the years to come...

 

Gaff wouldn't have heaps of currency and TBH I think WC need him anyway....

 

 

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 I agree with a lot of what's

Wed, 2021-07-07 11:28

 I agree with a lot of what's been said above. I think the issues run a bit deeper but the next few weeks will tell. Like Boon I think they'll roll the Kangas and cruise on towards the finals but unless something serioulsy changes, we'll just be making up the numbers by then. The lack of effort and heart in the last 2 games has been very, very sad to see.

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 Surely WC style of game must

Thu, 2021-07-08 11:58

 Surely WC style of game must come into question? That slow kick/ mark, possession game is outdated now and other teams know how to beat it. WC need to show some heart and play hard fast contested footy but its not easy changing mid year with guys that arent used to it. 

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 I think you're right Woody.

Thu, 2021-07-08 12:14

 I think you're right Woody. Bloody hard to train a new game plan into them mid-season though. Hard enough from season to season.

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Soooo, are Hawthorn absolute shit or....

Sat, 2021-07-10 14:15

 Are the Frockers actually a reasonable team now? Wouldn't have picked Freo to flog the Hawks in Tassie, but there you go. Maybe Clarko should bring forward the handover to his successor?

Freo might even be favourites over the Eagles in round 22. Oh the pain just thinking of it .

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 Hawks are shit  lol

Sat, 2021-07-10 14:17

 Hawks

 

are

 

shit

 

 

lol

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 Freo for premiers.......

Sat, 2021-07-10 17:27

 Freo for premiers.......

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Next Derby is Rd 22

Sat, 2021-07-10 17:44

Next Derby is Rd 22 Bill....bout as close to winning anything either club can boast about this year.

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 Aint that the truth Brock O

Sat, 2021-07-10 17:46

 Aint that the truth Brock O, and probably be a draw.

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 Sure won't be a shootout. 

Sat, 2021-07-10 18:02

 Sure won't be a shootout. 

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Im away with work atm....but

Sat, 2021-07-10 18:08

Im away with work atm....but word is Monday night football will be a bit wild weather wise!

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 Ouch.... Tigers and Eagles

Mon, 2021-07-12 21:09

 Ouch....

 

Tigers and Eagles both fallen off the cliff....

 

The pies/eagles debate often rages here, give me the pies list anyday moving forward...

 

Was good to see Stephenson repay the faith tonight, he can play

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Dumb pies

Tue, 2021-07-13 06:56

stevo will be an absolute gun. Loved his game

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You're right Boon

Mon, 2021-07-12 21:40

 A lot of the big name/big money Eagles players need the boot fair up their arses. Game plan needs overhauling too. Disgraceful effort against Norf tonight!

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 We are in freefall, few need

Tue, 2021-07-13 06:47

 We are in freefall, few need to be sent to the knackers yard. They need to blood now imo

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Nit nat

Tue, 2021-07-13 07:01

30% effientcy, toweled up by old man number 22 

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That Stephenson kid goes

Tue, 2021-07-13 10:33

That Stephenson kid goes alright 

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Bloody shame that

Tue, 2021-07-13 14:49

pies have been piss poor managers of some their boys, heater seedsman etc. Stevo will a 200  gamer for them, Thea of the week pies and norff

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 Nic Nat is getting the tap

Tue, 2021-07-13 07:28

 Nic Nat is getting the tap but doesnt have the people around him to tap to. The mids cant transition the ball and when they do get it, they cant do it cleanly.

Intersting to see the emotive conversation between Yeo and McLoven. Clearly the players are getting frustrated at the performance. A happy team is a good team. 

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Too lazy

Tue, 2021-07-13 14:50

and not fit enough. 

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 Yep he looked spent last

Tue, 2021-07-13 15:09

 Yep he looked spent last night. Gaff looked like he'd been on the turps all week and had no wind. Fark I could go on.

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Coach

Tue, 2021-07-13 10:32

 A lot of the loss lies with Simpson, its ok to gee your team up to play hard but when it goes too far and they play the man to soften them up instead of the ball it comes back to bite you big time

 

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Was a heap of that

Tue, 2021-07-13 10:44

Was a heap of that early....and it back fired.

Plus there faces whining to the umpires ever free....great for the kids!

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 Why the Eagles kept going

Tue, 2021-07-13 12:02

 Why the Eagles kept going down the wing every time is beyond me. Kick from defence to the wing wasn't being marked, largely because it was wet, so the ball is going to go to ground where the Eagles are shit! If you do the same thing every time how can you expect a different result?

How about rolling the dice and going through the corridor? What's the worst that can happen? They already got beaten by the bottom side AT HOME! Well done Norf! 

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Too many plodders the

Tue, 2021-07-13 12:53

Too many plodders the backline who aren’t fast enough to break the lines and who aren’t a good enough kick to open up the corridor with those up and under flour bag kicks. Even Hurn is looking slow albeit he’s still rock solid down there and teams have figured out how to take McGovern deep and one on one to expose him. It’s all being left to Shepherd, Barrass and Duggan and Rotham should never have been dropped as at least he has a decent crack.
Our midfield is flat footed and not working well together and when we do win it we are handballing to stationary targets forcing them to just bomb it without looking at the next target… I’m looking at you Dom Sheed and Andrew Gaff. Adrian Hickmott is our midfield coach, did he ever actually play in the midfield? 
If Darling doesn’t hold the record for the most dropped marks then he is getting bloody close and the same goes with Gaff for missed tackles!
We are perched on the edge of a cliff and unless something changes we are going to tumble and tumble hard. West Coast sold the farm and rolled the dice on Kelly and it hasn’t worked out so might need to bite the bullet and look at offloading someone like a Gaff while he still has some currency.
 

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 Getting rid of one of your

Tue, 2021-07-13 21:53

 Getting rid of one of your better ball users is robbing Peter to pay Paul Frosty... 

 

What would you get for Gaff? Maybe like pick 20....

 

Hardly worth the effort.....

 

Unfortunately when a team gets to WC/Richmonds situation where you been good for so long you have to bite the bullet and go hard...

 

What would you get from GC/Geelong for Nic Nat?

 

Trying to think of other players you'd get rid of with decent currency?

 

Richmond need to do the same...

 

What would Richmond get for Dusty? 2 top 5 picks?

 

You got 2 x top 5 picks for a bloke that has done his job you'd fuck him off surely....

 

Depends which direction the club wants to go....

 

Be mediocre and hope you win a final or two along the way or quick rapid rebuild and hopefully snare a flag....

 

 

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Gaff is an elite accumlator

Tue, 2021-07-13 22:42

Gaff is an elite accumlator but is far from one of our better ball users. If he's not blindly bombing it into the forward 50 he's either turning it over or handballing to another player under pressure and still can't kick with his right foot. You are right though with a pick around 20 but it would also free up significant cap space.

I still think 1/3 of our team look unfit after returning from long injury layoffs and we'll click and round out the season playing much better footy but it's very frustrating viewing at the moment.

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 Did you say we had a

Wed, 2021-07-14 06:16

 Did you say we had a midfield frosty.... bunch of lazy fucks at the moment..... When Nic Nat keeps following up his own tap out you have to wonder what the rest are doing.

And yes uncle Stevenson was a good pick up for North.

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 I couldn't believe that Nic

Wed, 2021-07-14 13:06

 I couldn't believe that Nic Nat is 3rd in the league for clearances it does show how little the midfield is doing. 

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Where's Willy

Wed, 2021-07-14 08:26

 

Where's Willy the saviour? HAHAHA 

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 Sitting back laughing at

Wed, 2021-07-14 13:17

 Sitting back laughing at Collingwood down the bottom of the ladder somewhere.

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Not Quite

Wed, 2021-07-14 14:29

 

Not Quite the bottom Bill, but close enough,

 

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Could he be the problem Bill

Wed, 2021-07-14 14:46

are the rest of the crew pissed off maybe 

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 If that's the explanation

Wed, 2021-07-14 15:26

 If that's the explanation for the pathetic effort over the last 3 weeks then we should fuck most of them off Unc!

They are paid a shitload of money to play footy for a club that is actually a business. If they were sooking because of Willy then that would be very, very poor. My employer would sack anyone who didn't even try to do their job for 3 weeks because they were upset over the actions of, and relating to another employee.

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 You nailed it Dave. Someone

Wed, 2021-07-14 15:42

 You nailed it Dave. Someone had a go at me on Farce book because I called them out for being piss weak. I reminded the clown that that are paid a shit ton of money as a  business going  concern. We as supporters and especially paid up member are allowed an opinion on a public forum. If it wasn't for the punters watching them on TV or at the grounds they'd go broke it's that simple. I'm a solid supporter but will call out lacklustre shite. 

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 Agreed Andy. I know they

Wed, 2021-07-14 16:09

 Agreed Andy. I know they started better last week and there was a lot of effort but it just didn't last beyond hal;f time. Some guys worked hard all night but only a handful of them and you can't be competitive like that. Pressure is on for a big improvment this week!

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Oh yes. The 'you aren't a

Wed, 2021-07-14 21:26

Oh yes. The 'you aren't a real supporter' truckwits.

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