Boat Market
Submitted by Brock O on Mon, 2021-01-04 14:02
Gents,
Anyone sold or bought a boat recently and how did they go bargaining ?.....starting to look around for something between 6 -7m mark, used and there's not a lot around.
I know the car market has gone through the roof as we seen a few grand in price change over a 3 month period late last year...some yards struggling to find cars as they were selling so fast.
Not a buyers market at a guess..
Da pirate
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Like that brocko .
But Ned was first 1880 .
Darren253
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I've just agreed to sell my
I've just agreed to sell my '17 Reef Runner... I didn't advertise it and the guys is willing to wait until the end of Feb to collect. No bargaining.
Prices are up 15-20% as they are with Caravans also but boat build time for a new Caribbean for example are out 9-10months now.
Sea goat
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sold my fist boat at the
sold my fist boat at the beginning of the year. went real quick. seems that there is a big market for boats at the moment.
how come you selling the reef runner if you dont mind me asking?
Darren253
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PM Sent
PM Sent
Rob H
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Sold my Cruisecraft in about
Sold my Cruisecraft in about a week, asking price which was about $10K more than I would have sold it for last year.
Plus it went to Queensland, they paid about $6K freight plus another $5K to a broker to simply take the money and give it to me.
Three people from Queensland all keen, one got a little upset when after asking for my "lowest price", he offered $5k less.
Meantime someone else came along and took it. He rang 12 hours later asking about his offer and said "but I was bargaining first and I would have paid more"
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
SpotHound
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Lowest price, hah!
I never understand this lowest price thing, bogans all say it.
Swompa
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They always say they would
They always say they would have paid more after they miss out.
Rob H
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Usually when they ask "whats
Usually when they ask "whats the lowest you'd take", I ask "whats the highest you'll pay?"
In this case I told him, specifically saying "thats not the point to start bargaining at", he wanted to know so he could "do his figures".
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
SpotHound
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Shortage
I am finding there is a shortage of new boats, that is what is driving the used price up.
Once manufactueres catch up the s/hand market will drop like a stone.
Mate has a big w/sale fixed price yard, he is staring to offer much lower trade in prices as he is seeing demand drop.
sea-kem
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Sold my Centre console just
Sold my Centre console just before Xmas for a fair price, lots of low ballers and prop spinners out there. Thing that made me laugh was that a lot of them think they know more about your boat than you do, but stood my ground and got what I wanted.
Love the West!
Brock O
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Guessing with international
Guessing with international travel on hold....10k supa grab for those that want it has added to the spend.
Recon work and some of the bigger projects are behind it...few more to come yet, will be a labour shortage before we know it.
straith
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Drug money for a boat atm
I was in market just as prices and demand started to climb, missed so many as guys were buying sight unseen, one guy said hed had 180 phone calls in a cpl hours on gumtree.
Have to imagine alot were dealers filling their empty yards.
Was just about ready to chuck it in when i managed to find my 5.6 hydrofield.. now im in love again and more importantly back in the water.
It is crazy though, youd definitely think it cant last past this year?
Reminds me of daytrading shares during the dot com bull run at beginning of the 2000's lol.
Crazy times...
Marineboy
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Ocean whaler
hey mate did you move your ocean whaler on ? If so why ?
cheers
mark
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
straith
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Hey Mark,Yeah usual story
Hey Mark,
Yeah usual story wasnt using enough and had 2 x bathrooms to renovate that were 8 years overdue... sad day but didnt take long and im now into these hydrofields!
Trihull again but with some more weight and freeboard.
Really just an itch i had to scratch but so far Im very impressed with the ride, as soon as i put last few personal touches on it im heading to the fads to give it a real test.
Cheers
Marineboy
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Cheers
yep the hydrofields are a cracker boat, would my choice of upgrade if I sold my whaler let me know how it goes.
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
straith
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Moking
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Latest RAC Magazine has
Latest RAC Magazine has quoted Boat Sales up 90% from this time last year! That's across the board from small dinghys,trailer boats and jetski's.
That's huge,and explains what is going on.
My Dad taught me how to Fish-Thanks Dad.(RIP)
Lastchance
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The prices being asked for
The prices being asked for what I consider non-classic cars has also become ridiculous - Im not sure if they're actually selling or not, but covid tax has really got Rockingham's finest thinking they're siting on a GTHO gold mine with their '89 5L VN Commodore! Might have to see what I can get for the old XT Falcon! Haha
sea-kem
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Mate my first car was an XT,
Mate my first car was an XT, loved it.
Love the West!
Jackfrost80
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Keeping the Mrs off the back
Keeping the Mrs off the back whilst keeping the car would be my guess
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
rob90
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I've been looking for a
I've been looking for a kingswood for a few years now. I was laughing at the price of rusted out 6cyl ones a few years back. Now i just feel sorry for people buying them and having to restore at these prices.
Hi my name is rob............. and I'm a........... fishaholic
Billcollector
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Be worth more than a VN
Be worth more than a VN commondoor.
dano83
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Almost fell over when I saw
Almost fell over when I saw how much hj hq hz hx Ute are so glad I kept mine
Brock O
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I have a 72 LJ GTR...forever
I have a 72 LJ GTR...forever on my mind to sell it, could get myself a half decent tub then.
Just waiting for the concession licensing to get over the line, hopefully this year they say. People sell there boat because they only use it a couple times a year, the tory is the same for me.
Brother has a VK, so that will come my way for resto project next.
sea-kem
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I used to have a VJ charger,
I used to have a VJ charger, great looking car and souped it up a bit to get 15 seconds on the qtr mile. But man she used to float like a boat at high speed.
Love the West!
Brock O
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LOL...my first car was a VJ
LOL...my first car was a VJ Val 4 door...had the 265 hemi and rubber pluggers in the bushes...thing was a beast, could hit a carb and not feel a thing.
Was the second owner basically, bought it of an old Italian bloke at work..was originally the company car were I did my apprenticeship...Howard Porters.
Brock O
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...Double post
tiimmbo
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What sort of boat upgrade
What sort of boat upgrade you looking at mate?
Brock O
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Ha Tim, Haven't decided yet
Ha Tim,
Haven't decided yet mate, I'm doing a bit of work to mine now to get it sellable, pulled 10k on my supa also...so best case will be looking around August pending the market 30K...20ft mark, don't mind something a bit older, just need a half decent donk.
davewillo
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Bought a boat in September
Bought a boat in September 2020. Got it for about 10% below asking but I think it was about the right price in the end. since then I have seen very comparable boats at much more money or smaller (and sometimes older/higher hours) boats for the same price. Pretty sure right now I coukld sell at a profit but where's the fun in that!
PGFC member and lure tragic
Lastchance
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The Eldest daughter has
The Eldest daughter has claimed the XT as 'hers' as she gets her license this year and shes 'already driven a modern twin turbo V8 (Diesel Land Cruiser......) so that old thing will be a piece of cake!' Yeah nah, I dont think so! Haha
Gadsy
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On the car prices side of things
People have been asking for and getting big $ for their Landcruisers with the impending phasing out of the 200 series in March. Covid tax is the common phrase for such high asking prices
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dodgy
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If I didn't need mine I'd be
If I didn't need mine I'd be tempted to sell it now and wait till the new one comes out. I could get what I paid for it back and it's 3 years old now.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
davewillo
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Guy at work did exactly that
Guy at work did exactly that with his 2yo Prado. Now has full warranty again and brand new car for basically nothing more than the 6 weeks or so he had to wait!
PGFC member and lure tragic
Billcollector
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MMMM My dual cab 200 would
MMMM My dual cab 200 would get good money now but.. Nah fuck I love it. The replacement cost is up there now
Lefty 44
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Sold mine a month ago
Decided to sell my fibreglass boat a month ago and it sold in a week.
Same price I paid for it 3 years ago.
Had plenty of lookers and a few yards keen on consignment.
Only sold because I was paying storage. I have no undercover parking for it at my place.
Looking for an Ali I can park out the front and not worry about it deteriating.
But as you said...not much about.
Been looking east, prices are better but transport evens it out.
pelagicyachts
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I hate to be a party pooper -
I hate to be a party pooper - but i cant see how this can be sustained - this initial rush is the "thank fk i am not dead and i want to live my life so i am going to buy xyz", cars, boats, caravans all going up due to that, property going up because of repatriation of expats (scampering home for better health care) and people wanting to upgrade due to low interest rates.
At some point the music stops - always does - i would say it will be around June/July
2 outcomes from here -
1) virus gets worse, out of control, health care system fails globally and economy goes to shht = asset prices fall
2) vaccine solves issue, economy will improve but not at the rate people are predicting as if it does interest rates will go up (= defaults for many) if it doesnt improve then the current asset prices are over inflated
Personally i am not concerned about option 1- think it is a low risk, i dont think we are going to shht but i cant see how the current rate of growth can be sustained with wages growth and inflation flat - and remember a lot of businesses have automated processes during covid and a lot of people working from home = commercial property values are more likely to fall
rant over :-)
sea-kem
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Hence the major push to get
Hence the major push to get the vaccine out quickly. But people want their cake and eat it too, don't want the vax but want a good economy. We can stay with the status quo, not vaccinate and become stagnant with a groundhog day effect with clusters and lockdowns. The yanks really need to get their shit together soon with triage of who lives and dies type scenario playing out right now in LA. But morons still think it's all fake.
Love the West!
davewillo
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Cartainly don't disagree
Cartainly don't disagree with you regarding cars, boats, caravans etc. Real estate might be different though as we genuinely have a shortage of accommodation at present. Yes I know that there has been a boom in new housing starts and more to come, but wiyh less than 1% rental vacancy, something needs to ease the pressure. I believe that provided we have the jobs, the negative net interstate migration we saw in the 5 years pre-COVID may well turn around. If it does then thos epeople need to be housed somewhere. Same goes for overseas migration when that recommences in say 2022. We were already attractive as a destination and now that isolation is sexy, we will be more attractive.
Just my thoughts on the housing side of things. I work in the development industry so have pretty good intel but also a reason to hope for this to be right. Time will tell!
PGFC member and lure tragic
pelagicyachts
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i hope you are right re
i hope you are right re property - as falling house prices is what kills growth
IN the CBD there is shop after shop boarded up - i know thats not all c19 related but seems to be trending one way
The company i am contracting to is looking to downsize office size as during c19 we all worked from home - have worked out that we can take an office 1/3rd as big..
THe migration thing is a 2 way street, a lot of returned expats may stay but alot wont and younger people will move offshore when they can - a mate of mine returned hong kong last year and despite being very well set up after working there 20 years is looking to return this year or next due to the limited opportunities here...
we have a cork in the end of the pipe atm - once that is removed the rental vacancy rate will increase
Jackfrost80
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At some point the music
At some point the music stops:
You said the same thing about Bitcoin 3 years ago and it did crash from $23k down to $4k
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
pelagicyachts
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have you seen it recently? -
have you seen it recently? - currently trading at $34,000 USD (AUD48,500) -difference is BC is controlled by a small group of people who manipulate the price and sell into rallies, its the biggest sham in history yet people still invest in it - unregulated, unbacked and unethical
sorry - another rant :-)
Jackfrost80
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Madness aye? I'm halfway to
Madness aye? I'm halfway to recouping my $2k I'd given up on as lost 3 years ago but I sunk it into about 6 various alt coins... a couple of which don't exist anymore
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
straith
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Ha! Like the Hong Kong Races
Ha! Like the Hong Kong Races as they used to say!
pelagicyachts
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pretty much! although if you
pretty much!
although if you have been you will appreciate it can be a lot of fun :-)
ranmar850
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Everything recreational is crazy.
And has been since before mid last year. People paying new price for used 4wds because there is a waiting list. Recently bought a new Triton 4wd dual cab for my son, because, at under 40K driveaway for an auto, it was the same price as most of the second-handers around. Just have to wait until March for delivery. A mate picked up a very nice 2300 Caribbean July of last year. The broker had lierally just listed it the day before, already had interested parties, hadn't even been detailed. He bought it on the spot. Paid what would have been the new price 5 years ago, and only about 15K under what it would cost new today. But a long wait for delivery.
SeperateKnob
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Hardly any decent boats for
Hardly any decent boats for sale at the mo. If you could do without your boat for a year or so then rebuy......
lurch
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know that feeling
Know that feeling, have had my boat for 10 years and I was offered the same as I paid for it last month. Should probably take the dough though I own it and it doesnt cost me much to keep it even if I dont use it as much as I would like. I am also a bit worried that once sold I wont get into another for a reasonable price
lurch
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Double up
Double up