Greenys getting started maybe???????????

** Rockingham Offshore Fishing Club **

Anyone that has been to Switzerland, has dipped their veritable toe, in the metaphoric understanding of their culture. They like things to run like a good watch (funny that!). You know; there is an alliance in Perth that promulgated the first part of that ideom.

The second part, we have already partially promulgated (release weights, sambo care etc). So whilst the nomenclative description of our activity may not be so discrete and pedantic, we emulate what they propose.

Colin

(Colin 2 - Co-founding member of the prestigious Colin Club)

And anglers in the country will have to demonstrate their expertise by taking a course on humane methods of catching fish. (Not such a bad idea this bit).

Hook in mouth ripped to the surface screwdriver stabed in head

Loaded spear through head straight in the esky

Nah I don't need it

Hey dreamweaver I didnt understand a word you said mate. To many big words for me lol. You need to remember some of us got kicked out of school early and arnt too bright lol. Just jokes mate.

I just couldnt find the right words

To all the virgins..............Thanks for nothing!

may have been giving his viewpoint on the Swedish way of looking at things.
(Colin 1 - Co-founding member of the prestigious Colin Club)

Humour taken

Ok, here it is in 'English': (LOL)

"Swiss government is going to ban people from deliberate C&R fishing. Wording is "it is not permitted to go fishing with the 'intention' to release the fish."

If any of you had read a recent WA Fishing alliance proposal, one of the items advocated (as I understood it) was the no realeasing of fish, regardless of size (but they then talked about reducung maximum size limits and realeasing - so don't know how you could acheive both ). So the first part of that suggested policy kind of mirrors what the Swiss are saying.

"And anglers in the country will have to demonstrate their expertise by taking a course on humane methods of catching fish."

Whilst we are not at the 'demonstration' stage, there has been some info circulated about correct fishing handling and release (wet hands, surface, correct handling of species to support the weight of the fish and avoid physical injury, correct use of release weights and slow retreives in respect to baratrauma etc). I'm not sure how you put the 'demonstration' bit into effect. A fisheries inspector/fish watch volunteer on every boat and at every fishing location? I don't think our resources quite meet that objective.  

Colin

(Colin 2 - Co-founding member of the prestigious Colin Club)

dunno that anything is uncontesable colin but i've been involved in demersal mortality research for a real long time and can guarantee you that they've got a much better chance on a release weight.heres a bit of stuff from dfg in the states.

heres a bit more info to back up immediate recompression......http://www.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/research/

Thanks Garry for that link.... (edit - makes that links) :)

Yeah, take your point, perhaps 'overwhelming evidence' might have been closer.

I'll have a look at that!

How was the research undertaken Gary? What were the results and has it been published anywhere?

Like I said though, I'm all for release weights and use one.

Colin

(Colin 2 - Co-founding member of the prestigious Colin Club)

the west australian research was done by tagging a heap of jewies,blackarse,pinks and some other stuff which showed promising results,and an experiment involving catching some jewies and putting them in a cage for a few days.i wasnt very impressed with that,but hey,that was someone elses call.i think the mortality rate was just about a hundred % on that one.as for it being published,well i for one would really like to see it because i've been told that a lot of data wasnt included.

Was just reading the PDF from that first link Garry, interesting comment about slower retreival as method of baratrauma reduction being a myth. There will be some dissenters on that one. (Once again, it comes down to a study, doesn't it?)

There's also the bebate on pearcing the swim bladder, I've seen commentary swearing by it.

Also intersting variations on release mechanisms/weights.

Certainly makes for good reading - so thank you!

Hmmm, on that WA research, I seem to recall having a conversation about that some time ago. Also recall some dissatisfaction over the cages. So by a 100% mortality - it was a complete failure?

The promulgation of such a study would be invaluable for all sorts of reasons, least of all to have the public arena judge the MO and controls etc. After all, overwhelming evidence (one way or the other) is a strong tool.

As to the tagging program then, your saying their were recaptures ?

Colin

(Colin 2 - Co-founding member of the prestigious Colin Club)

heaps of recaptures colin,including at least half a dozen sub 30 cm blackarse out of 100 metres.lots of witnesses to those,being on a charter boat and all.plenty of fish recaptured more than once or twice as well.

on venting,we vent a lot of rankins up north,we also put a lot on 6 pound release weights...we've only just really started tagging them though,so time will tell.leaving them flapping around on the surface isnt acceptable.i spoke to a fisheries inspector at tantabiddi last month about release weights and the legal requirement to release all cod over a metre and he was a bit clueless about it all.i think thats unacceptable as well. 

the cage study wasnt 100% failure if thats the outcome that was wanted

Well Gary, the recaptures is certainly encouraging for sure.

I'll be intersting to see the results of any (re)tagging programs where both release weights AND venting occurred.

Yes, there is few things sadder than watching a floater drift past your boat because someone nearby didn't do the right thing with release weights or (and this one really gets me going!) either just chucking it back or even worse, do so to 'upscale'.

As to the fisheries inspector, I guess there is still a lot of education to be undertaken in regards to release weights.

As to the cage case study.....one hopes it wasn't :).

Colin Molloy

(Colin 2 - Co-founding member of the prestigious Colin Club)