Support the COVID app

 Unless you are a criminal and have something to hide support this very very useful tool to contact trace. 

OMG it could save a loved one. 

We are doing ok but not in a dream or of the woods yet 

Please forget all this privacy issues

We need this to conquer this shit

Doc

____________________________________________________________________________

"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk


Da pirate's picture

Posts: 1036

Date Joined: 03/05/15

Pretty sure ..

Fri, 2020-04-17 18:02

Pretty sure we got the message buddy!!
and yes I'm a essential worker like

yourself .. let's hype down the message

for the elderly and whole community..

and pray for some normality..  

Posts: 1079

Date Joined: 05/05/06

No bloody way. How many

Fri, 2020-04-17 18:09

No bloody way. Just out of curiosity how many patients have you treated?

Posts: 536

Date Joined: 26/03/17

personally i think it is a

Fri, 2020-04-17 18:27

personally i think it is a pretty useful idea. I would have to look into the security of it before i took it up, but if that can be reassured i would consider it.

Posts: 54

Date Joined: 12/05/17

 Hell No. They track me

Fri, 2020-04-17 18:27

 Hell No. They track me enough with out giving them the rights

Da pirate's picture

Posts: 1036

Date Joined: 03/05/15

Fair enough ..

Fri, 2020-04-17 18:27

Not one jim and fair enough.. all I'm

saying is through the media radio..

we have the message loud and clear

Let's just relax the message a little.. 

I have consoled that many elderly 

last few weeks. Just saying we need too 

take one step back but not relapse in 

anyway , cransy I commend your efforts 

and thank you on your service too the 

community .. cheers pirate.. 

Posts: 1079

Date Joined: 05/05/06

All good mate, i agree with

Fri, 2020-04-17 19:55

All good mate, i agree with ya, I was listening to the abc when the toilet paper shit happened and they were just feeding the paranoia making it worse so I understand what your saying.

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

What app? Where can I

Fri, 2020-04-17 19:04

What app? Where can I download it? 

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

Brock O's picture

Posts: 2460

Date Joined: 11/01/08

If only we could trust the

Fri, 2020-04-17 19:53

If only we could trust the Government...nothing to hide but no thanks.

On the other side..Corona take 2...if the Government had track of all Aust people would re-acting to another threat like this be easier to control ?

Jackfrost80's picture

Posts: 6738

Date Joined: 07/05/12

Robodebt suicides, the

Fri, 2020-04-17 20:02

Robodebt suicides, the botched 2016 census, blaming hackers for MyGov shutting down recently. The Govt has a horrific recent record with anything like this letalone something that's been thrown together overnight.

____________________________________________________________________________

If catching wrasse is cool, consider me Miles Davis

Posts: 510

Date Joined: 20/02/11

 I'm ok with it.

Fri, 2020-04-17 20:29

 I'm ok with it.

____________________________________________________________________________

Mulie

Mick C's picture

Posts: 547

Date Joined: 26/12/13

Agree

Fri, 2020-04-17 20:42

Agree, thanks.  The deaths in other countries are very scary, and we seem to have done well so far.

The government position to review “lockdown” if there is a measure to monitor “contacts” makes sense.

____________________________________________________________________________

Ability is what you are capable of doing. Motivation determines what you do. Attitude determines how well you do it - LH.

 

Posts: 4201

Date Joined: 01/02/10

 It's just pinging taken to

Sat, 2020-04-18 04:51

 It's just pinging taken to the next level

____________________________________________________________________________

Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?

Bluetonic's picture

Posts: 1134

Date Joined: 09/01/08

 I'll download the app if it

Sat, 2020-04-18 06:17

 I'll download the app if it helps to control COVID-19. IMO, if you have any form of smart technology these days like phone etc, the government, if they have a reason to, can already spy on you. none of us have full privacy anymore anyway.

____________________________________________________________________________

Blue Sky, Blue Water, Bluetonic!

sea-kem's picture

Posts: 12829

Date Joined: 30/11/09

 Bang on mate, I had a good

Sat, 2020-04-18 07:32

 Bang on mate, I had a good chat with my son who's very tech savvy. This app uses blutooth so if someone's not comfortable using it you can switch it off. All this crap of big brother is a load of malarky. We are living in a democratic society not authortarian China. If it helps with this virus and gives us more freedom of movement then it's gotta be a good thing. 

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

Yeah if they want to they can

Sat, 2020-04-18 07:44

Yeah if they want to they can spy on us anyway. So may aswell download it

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

kirky79's picture

Posts: 1312

Date Joined: 13/01/12

Listening on radio yesterday

Sat, 2020-04-18 10:04

The government want at least 40% take up for it to be effective. 50% of Australians downloaded the Pokemon go app. We obviously don't mind giving private companies very similar info. I'll be in if it helps.

Scotte's picture

Posts: 1103

Date Joined: 07/12/06

 If it saves lives you'd have

Sat, 2020-04-18 16:17

 If it saves lives you'd have to be stupid to not want to.

 

Jackfrost80's picture

Posts: 6738

Date Joined: 07/05/12

Are you wearing a life jacket

Sat, 2020-04-18 17:46

Are you wearing a life jacket in your profile pic?

____________________________________________________________________________

If catching wrasse is cool, consider me Miles Davis

Scotte's picture

Posts: 1103

Date Joined: 07/12/06

 Nope, of coarse not.The risk

Sat, 2020-04-18 19:58

 Nope, of coarse not.

The risk of needing it was too low but don't worry if there is ever a higher risk of something going wrong I put it on

Jackfrost80's picture

Posts: 6738

Date Joined: 07/05/12

I just hope you can one day

Sat, 2020-04-18 23:47

I just hope you can one day appreciate the delicious irony

____________________________________________________________________________

If catching wrasse is cool, consider me Miles Davis

Scotte's picture

Posts: 1103

Date Joined: 07/12/06

 Charming mate ,what a clown

Sun, 2020-04-19 09:01

 Charming mate ,what a clown you are

Jackfrost80's picture

Posts: 6738

Date Joined: 07/05/12

One person in WA infected in

Sun, 2020-04-19 22:36

One person in WA infected in tbe last 24hrs....

The risk of needing to volunteer to govt tracking was too low but don't worry if there is ever a higher risk of something going wrong I'd opt in....

____________________________________________________________________________

If catching wrasse is cool, consider me Miles Davis

Scotte's picture

Posts: 1103

Date Joined: 07/12/06

You mean only 1 person tested

Mon, 2020-04-20 08:38

You mean only 1 person tested has returned a positive result in the last 24 hours.lets not forget it all started with just one person ...

 

I'm not being a smartass(unlike yourself) I hope like hell that we never get so bad that we need measures of tracking app.

Btw ,I have 2 nieces in the respiratory ward and their mother is head of that ward so maybe I'm looking at this whole situation from  a different perspective than you.

Jackfrost80's picture

Posts: 6738

Date Joined: 07/05/12

You just broadsided everyone

Tue, 2020-04-21 07:56

You just broadsided everyone that doesn't share your view calling them stupid.

Been there many times myself as a kid in PMH with chronic asthma once with pneumonia and had pneumonia that develops into sepsis and put me in ICU with a 10 day stint when I was 24 and still require prednisone at least once a year during peak flu season.

Based on the govts track record with robodebt, the botched census and constant Mygov shutdowns which they always lie about and blame hackers for I am highly dubious about this app and will not be downloading it when it's first ready. All it's going to take is for one devious 'account' or some less than tech savy oldie to send the community into panic mode.

Call me stupid all you like but whilst numbers are this low I chose not to opt in.

____________________________________________________________________________

If catching wrasse is cool, consider me Miles Davis

duges66's picture

Posts: 134

Date Joined: 07/03/12

Jackfrost80 is....

Tue, 2020-04-28 10:08

stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid & a contrarian

____________________________________________________________________________

There's 3 kinds of people in this world, those who can count and those that can't.

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

well ill go out on a limb

Sat, 2020-04-18 17:04

well ill go out on a limb ........and i dont consider myself stupid , lol

its a no for me ,

this a tad over the top imo , people are dying all over the world every min from something ...and that is sad and tragic and i feel for anyone who has suffered this way from it

however there are other ways to manage this and so far without the app we have done ok `especially in wa

the world has other big issues to contend with imo , which need to be dealt with like the 200 k that are added to our planet every day .or 80 million a year ..how many years can we keep doing that before we end up with some massive problems that will make covid look a lot less of a problem imo ??

two days of the current birth rate has repopulated every person plus on the planet who has died from covid world wide so far !!!

that sounds cold and harsh , which i dont mean it to be , but it is an unavoidable fact at some point our health system has all potential be truly overwhelmed anyway , same with food and water etc

somewhere down the track gov or a world gov will need to cull or remove the population or humanity will implode one way or the other from the drain we place on our planet

this and other types of measures are imo a slow move in removing freedoms

fire at will .............

hezzy

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

Bryce Day's picture

Posts: 738

Date Joined: 01/06/15

 Can't argue with that.

Sat, 2020-04-18 18:14

 Can't argue with that.

flangies's picture

Posts: 2466

Date Joined: 11/05/08

I can't believe anyone would

Sat, 2020-04-18 18:54

I can't believe anyone would willingly want to be tracked by the goverment let alone download an app to make it easier. I wonder how many of these overnight laws will get reversed once all this is over. You can pass anything you want if you argue from a point of authority; don't you want to beat this virus? Don't you want to beat the terrorists? 

I saw on the department of health website that the WA police just spent X amount of millions on drones and cameras with automatic number plate recognition to "track non-isolators". When this covid 19 is beaten I can assure you they won't get won't get thrown in the bin. 

Dale's picture

Posts: 7904

Date Joined: 13/09/05

Mon, 2020-04-27 19:28

They can track me, I go couch - beer fridge back to couch, bed, couch, beer fridge, bottle shop, home again, couch beer fridge couch

____________________________________________________________________________

"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."

Mr Wolf

 

 

timboon's picture

Posts: 2605

Date Joined: 14/11/10

 Agree Hezzy, If you are

Sat, 2020-04-18 20:07

 Agree Hezzy,

 

If you are mates with Elon Musk he may be able to save you and shift you off to Mars or the likes but at the rate we are going food/water/air quality/global warming etc etc etc is an issue...

 

Thankfully China had a one child policy for years...

 

Countries should have population restrictions of some sort...

 

 

 

 

Posts: 15

Date Joined: 09/12/15

let the virus live

Sun, 2020-04-19 08:42

 Covid 19 is the best thing to happen to this planet in recent history,

 

let it rip !! if your healthy and eat clean ( like all humans should) then the chances of fatality are very slim ! 

 

if your unhealthy, drinks beer all day and eat meat pies for breakfast then ask your body to look after you, good luck...

 

herd immunity !! 

 

jighead's picture

Posts: 628

Date Joined: 03/02/12

.

Sun, 2020-04-19 10:05

 I like meat pies and beer.

 
sea-kem's picture

Posts: 12829

Date Joined: 30/11/09

 Let's count the poor souls

Sun, 2020-04-19 10:33

 Let's count the poor souls who have a pre existing condition or old people who can't help themselves. Flog.

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

Scotte's picture

Posts: 1103

Date Joined: 07/12/06

 Plenty of unlucky healthy

Sun, 2020-04-19 12:21

 Plenty of unlucky healthy young people have died also.

 

Posts: 15

Date Joined: 09/12/15

really ?

Mon, 2020-04-20 05:25

 how many in australia ? because our government has segregated us from the rest of the planet so what happens elsewhere does not matter apparently.

Posts: 326

Date Joined: 29/04/18

Lynny you sir are a fucking 

Sun, 2020-04-19 09:26

Lynny you sir are a fucking  idiot, that was definitely the most fucked up comment ive  read  i dont  even know where to start with you , do us all a favor  and get off this site your comments  are not welcome  your just a fucktard 

____________________________________________________________________________

 Happy dayz 

Posts: 15

Date Joined: 09/12/15

 is it mate ? well im sorry

Mon, 2020-04-20 05:23

 is it mate ? well im sorry the truth upset you, im sure big tough nuts like you will see the virus out, so dont be too worried ;)

Posts: 6265

Date Joined: 26/04/14

 I just had a pie  it's all

Sun, 2020-04-19 10:44

 I just had a pie  it's all over especially when you count all the beers I had last night 

Walfootrot's picture

Posts: 1371

Date Joined: 23/07/12

 Ok, I am abit slow on the

Sun, 2020-04-19 11:44

 Ok, I am abit slow on the uptake some times.......

Can someone explain why the app is so bad?

My take is that it tracks who you meet, or have close contact with. In the event that you or someone you have meet gets COV 19 they can trace contacts and inform them to isolate.

What harm can it do?

____________________________________________________________________________

More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

walfootrot as an example

Sun, 2020-04-19 13:15

walfootrot

as an example ...
well remember when you first got a bankcard ?? in the 80s or where given info from the bank about them , ?? how good they where , no fees , etc ?? back then i got paid in little yellow envelopes with cash and most of us went into a bricks and mortar bank with staff , ??

bankcards where pushed as the best thing since sliced bread, then over time as more people got a bankcard, the fees started being applied the higher interest rates where applied , especially for cash out ?? atm fees where ramped up , especially if you did not use your bank atm ,, , real banks lost staff in the tens of thousands all over the country .. , credit atm fees where applied in any place you used the card,, retail pubs , fuel etc not just atms

then banking went online , no fees to start with ... how about now ?? how about banking security online ?/ is your personal info safe ?? etc

now the gov is introducing a law to ban cash transactions over 10k , punishable with 2 years gaol if caught with more than 10k in cash ,

mortgage interest rates are low ?/yes , how do they compare at moment to credit card interest rates ?/

this is just one example how things that start of for one purpose can move in different directions over time and not for the better ,,,,,imo

and as i wrote before given our low covid cases , im not sure its needed ,

when other means seem to have had success

if you took the cruise ships out , how low would it be ?

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

If you are really worried

Sun, 2020-04-19 18:36

If you are really worried about Covid 19 its a good idea to drop a few kilos and get healthy. Obesity is why America is getting fucked by the virus, 40% of americans are obese.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8233519/Being-overweight-puts-people-greater-risk-hospitalised-coronavirus.html

 

 

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

uncle's picture

Posts: 8265

Date Joined: 10/02/07

worse here

Sun, 2020-04-19 18:46

I believe.not on my to do list.

____________________________________________________________________________

all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs

timboon's picture

Posts: 2605

Date Joined: 14/11/10

 Simo the ones who are dying

Sun, 2020-04-19 18:47

 Simo the ones who are dying in the USA paid no attention on the day of prayer...

 

Which is probably also the case in Indo, those that weren't praying hard enough ended up feet in the air...

 

I'm praying hard for the fat fuckers in the states...

 

I pray they get through it so they can be back eating deep fried mars bars washed down with diet coke!!

 

I'm also still praying that old Donald gets a touch of the China virus...

 

 

flangies's picture

Posts: 2466

Date Joined: 11/05/08

 Almost sounds like the

Mon, 2020-04-20 05:30

 Almost sounds like the lyrics of a tool song haha

NORUN NOFUN's picture

Posts: 646

Date Joined: 15/08/11

I will consider using the app

Mon, 2020-04-20 09:30

I will consider using the app after I have had a good look, guess it all depends on what your priorities are, much the same as whether someone gives a shit following the guidelines and recommendations on how to stop the spread of the virus.

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

 is this Covid fightclub?

Mon, 2020-04-20 09:46

 is this Covid fightclub?

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

Posts: 491

Date Joined: 08/09/16

 I'm cautious but Google

Mon, 2020-04-20 10:01

 I'm cautious but Google already knows our movements anyway. What would be the downside of downloading the app and then deleting it once this is all over? Can the govt install something in our phones that would allow them to continue to track our location? If so then I'd be much less likely to download it.

Alan James's picture

Posts: 2058

Date Joined: 30/06/09

I'm not very techy

Mon, 2020-04-20 10:15

but from what I have read the app doesn't track your geolocation so it's not actually tracking your movements.  It is recording your proximity to others with the app.  Either way if it helps, why not.  Having said that I don't own a mobile phone so I'm not much help. 

____________________________________________________________________________

      

Scotte's picture

Posts: 1103

Date Joined: 07/12/06

 If anyone wants to track

Mon, 2020-04-20 10:48

 If anyone wants to track where I'm going go for it, i go to work ,shops, outings,stay at home,out to sea, pretty boring really.

Posts: 1079

Date Joined: 05/05/06

Ill just track you when youre

Wed, 2020-04-22 17:06

Ill just track you when youre out at sea if you dont mind?? to make it easy for ya, just send me what you catch and the coords.

Posts: 491

Date Joined: 08/09/16

Yep I don't have anything to

Mon, 2020-04-20 11:37

Yep I don't have anything to hide either so I agree that if it helps I have no problem with it. PM said that better tracing capability is one of the things that need to be in place before restrictions can be eased so I'm leaning towards it.

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

current ratio is 3 deaths per

Mon, 2020-04-20 18:59

current ratio is 3 deaths per million of our population for covid 19

0 new cases in wa in last 24 hours

think the health dept could trace that without the phone app ?

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

Alan James's picture

Posts: 2058

Date Joined: 30/06/09

Fair comment

Mon, 2020-04-20 20:01

However I am pleased that the gov is considering such plans in the event it all turns to poo.  I see nothing sinister about it, but each to their own.

____________________________________________________________________________

      

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

alan , I see nothing sinister

Tue, 2020-04-21 08:09

alan , I see nothing sinister about it either really at face value , nor do i have secrets or fears about being tracked etc

my point is it is the'' ACCEPTANCE'' by all of us to just follow it or download it without any deeper critical thinking on the long term ramifications and is it REALLY needed ?

there are lots of examples where our society has accepted changes to our way of living without realising where it may go in long term future

bankcards
online banking
mobile phones
oil fuel price cartels
big banks , cartels
atms
self serve registers

its endless and its not usually about improving the lot for the med to small people in society

in europe they are trialling a small microchip in some workforces .. its put under the skin and contains a myriad of info on the implanted human wearer , ALL OPT IN ...but ??

https://www.mybusiness.com.au/technology/3200-microchipped-workforces-no-longer-sci-fi

https://neonnettle.com/features/1584-uk-company-set-to-implant-microchips-into-hundreds-of-thousands-of-workers

https://www.mybusiness.com.au/technology/3206-microchipping-workers-a-misperception

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

Alan James's picture

Posts: 2058

Date Joined: 30/06/09

Hezzy - you are not being tracked

Tue, 2020-04-21 10:19

The use of the word tracking itself portrays the negative to most.  This is a voluntary app which provides a service to each individual and the community in general to make you aware that you have come in close proximity to a person who has tested positive.

Whether it is it really needed is another question?  Is it best to fix the small leak in the boat when it is a dribble or when the water is pissing in?  

____________________________________________________________________________

      

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

yeh ,thanks allan i have read

Tue, 2020-04-21 15:39

yeh ,thanks allan i have read the info on it and understood it is about proximity contact with other phones , not tracking at this point

the tracking was just referring to other general posts about downloading this app etc and not doing so was fearfull of the tracking or hiding something ,about your movements etc ..like being named a suss character if you wont use the app lol

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

timboon's picture

Posts: 2605

Date Joined: 14/11/10

 Yep again agree

Mon, 2020-04-20 19:06

 Yep again agree Hezzy,

 

Whilst we've dodged a bullet here its a bloody good example of what can happen if you've got an egotistical maniac or just plain unlucky ( Italy )...

 

Maybe things will be far worse here next time around...

 

Could be a good time to throw some funds into the S & P 500, things are pretty dire over there but they will recover. Donald unless he gets a decent dose of the Wuhan he will again ( unfortunately for the rest of the world ) get re-elected and watch the economy over there again go boom.

 

Why the F do the black americans vote for him??? Is it the $9/hr they can get when jobs growth is up?

 

They are a strange mob, just watch Tiger King as an example :)

sea-kem's picture

Posts: 12829

Date Joined: 30/11/09

 I would definitely not say

Mon, 2020-04-20 20:19

 I would definitely not say we've dodged a bullet mate until they do widespread testing. As proven with that fuckknuckle on the weekend who went to Bali then presented for work. It only takes one case to blow it open. 

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

timboon's picture

Posts: 2605

Date Joined: 14/11/10

Of course it is still very

Mon, 2020-04-20 21:46

Of course it is still very serious but when you look at our closest neighbour they will be in some real strife one would suspect.

 

While America will be no doubt the highest death toll recorded, Indo will surpass them but a government like Indo will be like that of Iran.

 

The truth will never be known...

sea-kem's picture

Posts: 12829

Date Joined: 30/11/09

 Indo, Africa I don't reckon

Tue, 2020-04-21 06:49

 Indo, Africa I don't reckon we've seen nothing yet. The yanks are fucked and will argue themselves to death, thousands dying each day and they all want to come out of lockdown and go back to work. The comments I read on farcebook on CNN are just mindblowing. We are very very lucky here no doubt. 

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

uncle's picture

Posts: 8265

Date Joined: 10/02/07

must be alot of fat f...s

Tue, 2020-04-21 09:18

in Europe, 100000 dead and still counting

____________________________________________________________________________

all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs

Posts: 491

Date Joined: 08/09/16

 The WHO have said that

Tue, 2020-04-21 16:28

 The WHO have said that tracking contacts is one of the keys to this thing not getting worse as we try to ease restrictions. Worth being open-minded IMO

big john's picture

Posts: 8405

Date Joined: 20/07/06

WHO

Tue, 2020-04-21 16:46

Is that the Wuhan Health Organisation?

____________________________________________________________________________

WA based manufacturer and supplier of premium leadhead jigs, bucktail jigs, 'bulletproof' soft plastic jig heads and XOS bullet jig heads.

Jigs available NOR at Shorecatch, Bluewater Joondalup/Myaree or online in my web store!

Posts: 491

Date Joined: 08/09/16

 Haha! Yeah I know they've

Tue, 2020-04-21 16:57

 Haha! Yeah I know they've made some fuck-ups but who else do we look to for guidance on the pandemic? Certainly not the fool running the USA!

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

WHO are in bed with China.

Tue, 2020-04-21 21:02

WHO are in bed with China. They should have stopped this. You had one job... 

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

Markie's picture

Posts: 2008

Date Joined: 06/08/10

 Tell em they're dreamin

Tue, 2020-04-21 20:45

 Tell em they're dreamin

Posts: 1528

Date Joined: 30/12/08

WHO made some fuck ups..

Tue, 2020-04-21 21:39

yeah the pricks have made some fuck ups alright. How about being responsible for the deaths hundreds of thousands of people world wide.
If it weren't for them bullshitting along with China to the world how it doesn't spred person to person things would have could have turned out differently.

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

this is an interesting take

Wed, 2020-04-22 13:17

this is an interesting take on the covid issue below

should we lock down at all ?/

is the cure worse that the disease ?/

pretty cold and brutal type of discussion on the pros and cons of either option
https://au.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-economist-slammed-horrible-lockdown-idea-013505468.html

on a side note bloke i know today told me he has lost 2 mates in last week between ages of 38and 46, , one was an overdose , one was a suicide

no perfect solution in any of this

hezzy

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

sea-kem's picture

Posts: 12829

Date Joined: 30/11/09

 I watched that episode of

Wed, 2020-04-22 13:27

 I watched that episode of Q&A on Monday Hezzy, what a hardnut she was and very uncompromising in her views. 

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

Hey Andy, I think she made

Wed, 2020-04-22 15:15

Hey Andy, I think she made some good points. There will be more death and misery due to the government induced economic crisis. Government needs to strike a balance between the health crisis and the economic crisis. Looks like its out of wack at the minute, time to open some things back up and see what happens.

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

sea-kem's picture

Posts: 12829

Date Joined: 30/11/09

 Yeah mate she definitely did

Wed, 2020-04-22 15:21

 Yeah mate she definitely did but I just though imagine being married to that lol. Government being extremely cautious now as they don't want to fuck it up imo 

The political fallout would be horrendous, and the health side of things too. 

____________________________________________________________________________

Love the West!

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

 yeah she was straight up

Wed, 2020-04-22 17:11

 yeah she was straight up bitch lol

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

lol yes andy I bet her point

Wed, 2020-04-22 15:27

lol yes andy I bet her point went down like a lead balloon with many of the viewers etc

but at some point any rational person must i think consider is it valid ?//
same as the population growth at 200 000 per day 80 million a year .. ?/

planet cant sustain that growth for another hundred years or more without some brutal consequences ,either way

interesting perspective regardless of if we agree or not with her , and pretty brave to put it out there in current climate

hezzy

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

Walfootrot's picture

Posts: 1371

Date Joined: 23/07/12

 So what is the number of

Wed, 2020-04-22 15:49

 So what is the number of deaths by COV 19 thats acceptable to allow us to open?

Should we be following the US lead?

____________________________________________________________________________

More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!

Posts: 1492

Date Joined: 16/05/09

 I kind of agree with how she

Wed, 2020-04-22 16:28

 I kind of agree with how she thinks from a Kimberley perspective.We have the most restrictive lockdown rules up here aimed at looking after the indigenous population, yet I can still drive past the town oval any hour of the day or night and see large groups of them sitting together not giving a shit about anything and nothing being done to stop them congregating together. I am starting to think we should get on with life and let the virus sort out the weak and save the economy of our town. 

Posts: 491

Date Joined: 08/09/16

Can't imagine being married

Wed, 2020-04-22 16:34

Can't imagine being married to that! Kinda reminded me of that anti-fishing nutjob from UWA.

I get her point but like Walfootrot says above, how many deaths are acceptable? The Swedish model would maybe translate to another 4,000 - 5,000 deaths nationally so far based on their numbers and they got their first case nearly 3 weeks after we did. They have lost 175 people per million versus our 3. Their mortality rate of closed cases is 76% versus ours of 1% so there's a lot to be said for ensuring the heathcare system isn't swamped and overloaded. Their death toll is rising pretty sharply so it's a worry to think where it will end. Much like the US but theirs was more of a case of too little too late. There are clear indictions in both countries that there were some very incorrect assumptions made and some fuckups to go with them, rather than actually planning for mass infection.

This is worth a look https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/swedish-coronavirus-no-lockdown-model-proves-lethal-by-hans-bergstrom-2020-04

I know there are other things at play in Sweden like the ski holidays in Italy but I'm still very pleased that we took a different approach. Maybe I'm just selfish because I have a number of friends and family that would likely succumb if they got this fucking thing. Either way from some good sources I believe WA may soften some restrictions that go beyond the Federal Government's guidelines after the long weekend and hopefully more broadly mid-May. Fingers crossed.

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

another article on sweden

Wed, 2020-04-22 16:50

another article on sweden
with their attitude of let in roll on through

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/a-disaster-waiting-to-happen-or-a-bold-evidence-based-response-in-sweden-it-depends-who-you-ask/ar-BB1308Gd?ocid=spartanntp

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

bit extreme but worth the

Fri, 2020-04-24 17:23

bit extreme

but worth the read imo once acceptance is given over

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-18/china-social-credit-a-model-citizen-in-a-digital-dictatorship/10200278?nw=0&pfmredir=sm&fbclid=IwAR03QREfTzxnpJreteP2Pi0FH6obsGa7IipH0kGEnJqpEfpImllbPmZ2dQI

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

crasny1's picture

Posts: 6877

Date Joined: 16/10/08

 Get realThis app will just

Fri, 2020-04-24 17:39

 Get real

This app will just allow us to very quickly trace contacts.

Stop the spread.ving

Data gone in I think 21 days.

Stay on your phone only and with your permission released if you test positive.

Don't add bullshit conspiracy theories to this potential life saving modern technology.

If I was positive I would like everyone close to me to know asap 

Done

 

 

____________________________________________________________________________

"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk

hezzy's picture

Posts: 1354

Date Joined: 27/11/09

lol jeez settle down crasny

Fri, 2020-04-24 19:07

lol jeez settle down crasny ...

your a tad bitey mate

.. and dont talk about bullshit ... please

i seriously doubt we will see too many more people test positive if we continue as we all are at present

hezzy

____________________________________________________________________________

OFW 11

evil flourishes when good men do nothing

 

Jackfrost80's picture

Posts: 6738

Date Joined: 07/05/12

If we shut down our economy

Fri, 2020-04-24 20:44

If we shut down our economy which will take a generation to pay back over some questionable stats coming out of Italy, what is going to happen if this app is used for mischievous purposes causing mass fear and hysteria over fake reports on home soil? How will the Govt ensure each app account is genuine?

____________________________________________________________________________

If catching wrasse is cool, consider me Miles Davis

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

You are fake news 

Fri, 2020-04-24 20:55

You are fake news 

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

Jackfrost80's picture

Posts: 6738

Date Joined: 07/05/12

Looks like someone had

Fri, 2020-04-24 22:58

Looks like someone had reignited their interest in "Covid shit"

____________________________________________________________________________

If catching wrasse is cool, consider me Miles Davis

Posts: 1492

Date Joined: 16/05/09

 About a month late I reckon.

Mon, 2020-04-27 08:04

 About a month late I reckon. Been getting fed a lot of limited information from the government  for a while now only telling us the things they want us to know and they now expect us to load an App for our own safety. Have Amazon run it and hope in a years time it's not sold to the highest bidder. Won.t be loading it.

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

App is available now. I just

Sun, 2020-04-26 19:21

App is available now. I just downloaded it, I’m not worried as we are being tracked anyway through Facebook and other apps. 

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

Posts: 1492

Date Joined: 16/05/09

 You do facebook Simo .....

Mon, 2020-04-27 08:06

 You do facebook Simo ..... I'm surprised... I won't have that tracking problem then.

Simo_'s picture

Posts: 1744

Date Joined: 13/11/06

Peanut 

Mon, 2020-04-27 09:31

Peanut 

____________________________________________________________________________

Bring on April

Posts: 6265

Date Joined: 26/04/14

 turn your data roaming off

Sun, 2020-04-26 19:59

 turn your data roaming off and gps. you only need data when going on internet.....

Swompa's picture

Posts: 2869

Date Joined: 14/10/12

 Downloaded. Woolworths track

Mon, 2020-04-27 14:49

 Downloaded. 

Woolworths track what i buy through their card as do Coles

Bunnings track what i buy through their discount card

Signed onto Google recently? it tracks what you look at hence the adds.

Facebook and Instagram do the same too. Downloaded TikTok or that app that made you look old? 

 

Posts: 502

Date Joined: 28/11/16

Downloaded. If you’re up to

Mon, 2020-04-27 18:37

Downloaded. If you’re up to no good police can seize your phone anyway. Gumtree google eBay Facebook etc etc all track your searches