Support the COVID app

 Unless you are a criminal and have something to hide support this very very useful tool to contact trace. 

OMG it could save a loved one. 

We are doing ok but not in a dream or of the woods yet 

Please forget all this privacy issues

We need this to conquer this shit

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Mon, 2020-04-27 19:30

I downloaded it this arvo, haven’t turned into a pumpkin yet.

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Brandon Matera downloaded it

Thu, 2020-07-02 22:30

Brandon Matera downloaded it and turned into a spud

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what was the one on abc news this morning

Tue, 2020-04-28 11:43

guy got a message your 20 ks from home,,,why?

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 Scammers at it already.

Tue, 2020-04-28 12:30

 Scammers at it already.

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 I don't care as mine is a

Tue, 2020-04-28 12:05

 I don't care as mine is a company phone so they don't know where I live!

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Downloaded today... Happy to

Tue, 2020-04-28 12:22

Downloaded today... Happy to do so!

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watch this if you want a

Tue, 2020-04-28 21:40

watch this if you want a laugh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hspw7Y1Gc5s&fbclid=IwAR3a2PvNfBVy5u4z4cdsgDWqtNcRdYUILG_h3qSAynwgOblQDL8kbTaUPWM

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 Ahhh well that's sorted that

Tue, 2020-04-28 21:58

 Ahhh well that's sorted that out .......... I think or does it hmm might just watch that one more time just to be sure,  to be sure.

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 Very funny Hezzy! I've seen

Wed, 2020-04-29 09:44

 Very funny Hezzy! I've seen that a few times now but it still makes me laugh every time 

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the next potential app on the

Fri, 2020-05-01 06:44

the next potential app on the horizon

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-01/new-surveillance-technology-could-beat-coronavirus-but-at-a-cost/12201552

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 I looked at the link you

Fri, 2020-05-01 09:03

 I looked at the link you posted regarding the Chinese social credit system - now that's genuinely Big Brother in action! Amazing how much George Orwell got right!

But I still downloaded the Civd safe app 

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Dishonest': COVIDSafe app has

Sun, 2020-06-28 17:57

Dishonest': COVIDSafe app has not detected a case despite 6 million downloads
For our free coronavirus pandemi

The federal government's COVIDSafe app has not identified any close contacts of a person infected with coronavirus who had not already been found through manual contact tracing, despite being downloaded by more than 6 million Australians in two months.
As the number of infections soars in Victoria, Centre Alliance senator Rex Patrick said the government was being dishonest about the effectiveness of the app,

https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/federal/dishonest-covidsafe-app-has-not-detected-a-case-despite-6-million-downloads-20200627-p556s7.html?fbclid=IwAR0LU8jdRuXWatwEqfxcgBvH1wWQ-NvTbuOMW164CToh5KEwHPwRhsdtya4

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So 6 million people with

Mon, 2020-06-29 12:29

So 6 million people with brains have downloaded it and the remaining 24 million people havent. 

if 1 person has it, gets Coronavirus and those people around them are dumb and dont have the app it cannot help them.

Pretty simple. It only works if the majority of people have it. 

 

 

 

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The app just needs a little

Sun, 2020-06-28 18:07

The app just needs a little tweaking and more people need to download 

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app hasen't picked up a case

Mon, 2020-06-29 16:56

yet, do they have it in Victoria??

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A few cases here and there

Wed, 2020-07-01 08:18

A few cases here and there Unc...

As per my original comment on the subject:

"Robodebt suicides, the botched 2016 census, blaming hackers for MyGov shutting down recently. The Govt has a horrific recent record with anything like this letalone something that's been thrown together overnight."

And a report states that:

"As of June 10, despite more than 6 million downloads (that's a million more than the govt wanted), the Australian app hadn’t produced any useful information to speak of.
 
The app has also been plagued with bugs. An issue that stopped the app from working in the background on iPhones hampered functionality, and it has since been reported that the government was aware of this from the very start.
 
According to a report from the ABC, the government’s own testing showed the app’s ability to communicate with locked iPhones was rated as ‘poor’, meaning it was effective less than 25% of the time."
 
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There is always negatives

Thu, 2020-07-02 07:50

 in any positive.

And media just love to tell us all the negatives rather than positives.

Now Google and Apple are working together on the ability to alert you if you might have been in contact. BUT then you have to download the Countries App to get further information. Now the question when you get a Andriod or iOS notification that is build in to the IOS that you have a proximity to a case would you now download CovisSafe in Australia to find out more. To protect your individual arse I bet anyone would, even if you then choose to delete it afterwards.

And as the numbers of cases grow this App as other countries with similar one with more cases have shown is very useful. This App is not like South Korea's that have geolocation data and can thus track you, it just store the ID of other users you have been in contact with for 2 weeks.

Any tool that helps me not treat cases of Covid is as good as a drug discovered that actually helps.

Yes our management of severe cases have improved as very clever ICU and Infectious Disease Specialist LEARN how to look after patients better, but this Pandemic is just in its infancy. Hopefully we in Australia are the lucky country but Apps like CovidSafe and other technology will hopefully make us luckier.

We have 20 Dr's working in our various clinics and ALL have downloaded it. Do you think we are dumb or smart??

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Not going to judge anyone for

Thu, 2020-07-02 11:47

Not going to judge anyone for their decisions to download or not download Cras, it's each person's personal choice and if community transmission takes off in Perth similar to Victoria, where this app is yet to indentify a single unique case, I may well consider downloading it despite its well documented flaws. The Govt should have just engaged Google to develop it who already have all of our metadata anyway and can actually put together technology that works.

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I just finished a stint in the a

Thu, 2020-07-02 13:02

 Covid Clinic and obviously mines running in my pocket there.

The data is that in protected health care workers with the app it does record their proximity to cases. It is just that they dont develop it due to their PPE.

But I am not trying to TELL anyone to get the app, just trying my heart out to convince people too. I can well and truely see the potential huge benefit should our numbers explode. Physical contact tracing will then be impossible - just ask the Yanks!!! 

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At the moment theres no real

Tue, 2020-06-30 12:12

At the moment theres no real risk in WA, no need for it.

Swompa why bang your pot so loudly? we dont really need the app.

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 Not sure if the editing

Tue, 2020-06-30 13:44

 Not sure if the editing comment is at me - i didnt change mine?

We are very lucky here in WA though I will keep it on my phone. Its not like it takes up too much space and is a pretty colour. 

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 I edited mine because I

Tue, 2020-06-30 15:59

 I edited mine because I can't type and get used to spell-check sorting out my fuck-ups!

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Guys

Wed, 2020-07-01 07:43

 As a medico it is a no brainer.

You have to understand contact tracing and subsequent advise to fully comprehend what technology can do.

Contact tracing traditionally relies on a tracer to call/talk to the infected patient (whatever condition) and then follow the provided history. It relies on a accurate account provided by the patient. But our memory isnt perfect and so there can often be gaps in the information provided, and thus a case infected can slip through the cracks. After talking to the initial patient the tracers physically call all contacts and tell them to isolate and/or get tested. Its labour intensive and needs skilled people.

  With a virulent virus like SARS CoV 2 (cause of the disease Covid) with a R0(zero) of an estimated 2.2 (1 infected person gives it to 2.2 others) it can easily get out of control from 1 missed case.

 

This app and others like it simply streamline this process and allow a far more efficient contact tracing especially with respect to time. 

If, and I sure hope it doesnt, it gets out of control here, the value will show.

I have had to contact trace one patient once with suspected measles and it was a pain in the **rs. And the health Department did by far most of the work.

If technology can assist, use it.

It is what has advanced medicine afterall.

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We shouldn’t be waiting until

Wed, 2020-07-01 08:01

We shouldn’t be waiting until after an outbreak before downloading the app 

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Going by the news reports

Thu, 2020-07-02 15:38

Going by the news reports theres another new dangerous form of swine flu, youd never guess where from either.

Hasnt infected humans yet tho

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17 cases detected

Tue, 2020-10-27 06:23

 in 6 months according to the media

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So 0.06% of all the 27,527

Tue, 2020-10-27 11:44

So 0.06% of all the 27,527 cases? Might have been better served pumping the $5m it has cost so far into some decent security guards 

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Amen

Tue, 2020-10-27 14:10

to that frosty 

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we all have to remember to

Thu, 2020-10-29 05:32

we all have to remember to use our own critical thinking during such times as these ..the sheer power of fear during this has been huge

looks like the app really worked well lol

........ not so much !!

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So SA shut down over a bloke

Fri, 2020-11-20 20:40

So SA shut down over a bloke lying about working at a pizza joint? Couldn't the SA Govt just have consulted with The Oracle... AKA the all mighty Covid app?

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The pizza guy didn’t download

Fri, 2020-11-20 22:49

The pizza guy didn’t download the app