Essendon not guilty, ASADA can move on to prosecuting the real drug cheats at Collingwood and Fremantle now. As an essendon supporter has been a great day !!
Nobody is any the wiser, AFL had to let go through as not guilty, they had enough egg on their face. There are still questions that need answering, it was an injection program, that's not in dispute. But there are still questions that will never be answered. But for the good of footy, I'm glad it's all over.
I have no animosity towards the players and glad they can get on with playing footy .. Though I’m absolutely baffled as to why the membership apparently still support Hird , while he’s still at the helm the club will continue to endure the stench he instigated . That’s up to them I guess , if the shoe was on the other foot and it was my club I’d want him gone .
So what did Hirdy get banished for a year for, club fined $2 million, loss of draft picks and the club missed out on playing finals for if they were found NOT GUILTY????
thats something essendon supporters would like to know as well. Punished for what, something people didnt like but wasn't illegal is the way it looks and if that is the case then thats piss weak.
Hird copped it big time , he was given a million bucks and went to France for 12 months .
Timmbo , I think the majority of footy fans felt empathy for your players . However I think you’ll be struggling to find much support for Hird . Two essendon supporters I know of accept the clubs wrong doing regardless of legalities and furthermore question as to why Hird wasn’t pissed off a long while back because it would’ve been in the best interests of the club . So your not speaking on behalf of all Bomber fans .
The club copped their wack because of lack of governance. Basically they didn't document anything. So, whilst the AFL and everyone else knows that something went on, there are no records to prove or disprove that it was illegal.
Well I feel better watching James hird cry on TV  bullshit I do. You don't get to cry hird you were feeding all your boys unknown concoction of drugs you slimy dog.
I tell ya what if that was my son given the drugs first I'd slap him, then I'd hang hird and dank by there balls and make them squeal till they told me what my son was given.
Can't believe most think it's okay now. Jobe Watson was quoted as saying I STILL DON'T NO WHAT I WAS GIVEN in today's paper.
And to reply to Bradz, you would think the club would keep meticulous records in that regard to prove that what was given was above board and not illegal. So without a doubt it all stinks. The whole executive at that club should be hung out to dry as well as any coaching staff involved. It's all too bloody late now, nothing can be proved and as much as I hate and for the sake of footy they need to move on and ASADA not appeal. Hopefully a big learning curve for the whole code.
Sea Kem and Gilly, I've noticed that ASADA is keeping frozen samples of the players blood for the next seven years. They're still trying to develop a test for Thymosin 4 at the moment. Probably well and truly out of the bloodstream (if it was actually there) by the time they took the samples anyway.
This is where the Pie boys are dead in the water, they've returned positive tests.
The fact they (supposedly) did not keep records says it all to me, I do not believe for one minute that any professional AFL club would not keep records - not only to prove there was nothing wrong done but to keep a record of what works and what doesn't.
They (supposedly) don't know what they injected them with. What happens when these players get older and a couple develop cancer or have other health issues.
Club doctor certainly had his concerns about what was being done and was then kept in the dark when he raised the issue in writing....... Oh and his letter seems to have evaporated along with the records.....
Governance - what crap - its a lot more than that.
And if Dank is above board as he claims he is why doesn't he come forward with the records he say he has (instead of claiming he will only do so in the correct forum) - at least for the players and their families sake.
I am with you gillyl, players not guilty fair enough the dons staff not guilty I don't think so guilty as sin , James Hird "I didnt know " well as coach of the team he should have known . Agree with you if it was my boy I would be tearing Hird a second arsehole
I bet you its not yet over. WADA and ASADA wont let this lie. In the overall scheme of doping in sport it is to big and would sent a wrong message to all elite athletes.
So watch this space.
Dopers are always trying to stay one step ahead of the testing by using newly modified drugs, just as the workers are trying to use synthetic Cannibinoids to bypass D&A testing in the workplace. Blood that is sus is kept, and when a test for the substane is developed the can will open again.
you are so right cransy tip of the ice burgh , was so very interesting to hear the mum of an elite junior gymnast ring the 6pr sport show last Saturday , she told the story of how kids as young as 10 and 11 are being drug tested and how if they are in the Wais system they have to run every thing past the medical staff even down to a panadol and at what time it was given so it can be recorded , funny the dons couldn't do that
Having any evidence at all for a finding of guilt , isn’t a priority for the tribunal regarding Crowley .. given he was previously found guilty regarding sooky lala without one iota of it ..
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bloody oath
bloody oath. Hirdy is a genuine bloke n the fact he defended this from day one shouldve said something.
Onya boys now let em rip!!
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Cleared because they still
Cleared because they still don't no what drugs they were given
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Good result
Good result for the Bombers.
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Will ASADA appeal though and
Will ASADA appeal though and let this shite drag on for another year :(
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I'm not sure the AFL will
I'm not sure the AFL will allow this to drag, things aint looking so good for the AFL.
This whole saga has been handled badly.
I can see some defamation suits now coming from Bombers side, especially if Dank is found not guilty.
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Still not happy
Sets a bad precedent. Inject stuff but just make sure nobody knows what.
I am happy this saga is over, but they certainly did the wrong things to the young players.
Very happy at least Jobe wont be stripped of the brownlow.
PS: happy for the Dons supporters. Must have been a shiite few years.
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I wonder
What did Essendon do with the Thymosin B4 they bought then
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Finally, what a poorly
Finally, what a poorly handled crock of shit by AFL & ASADA
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Nobody is any the wiser, AFL had to let go through as not guilty, they had enough egg on their face. There are still questions that need answering, it was an injection program, that's not in dispute. But there are still questions that will never be answered. But for the good of footy, I'm glad it's all over.
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Dale.... How did the AFL let
Dale....
How did the AFL let this go through??
As soon as people don't get the result they expect/want then the conspiracies start to fly...
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Not guilty?
They may have been found not guilty, but they sure as he'll aren't innocent.
I did then the best that I knew how. When I knew better, I did better.
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I have no animosity towards
I have no animosity towards the players and glad they can get on with playing footy .. Though I’m absolutely baffled as to why the membership apparently still support Hird , while he’s still at the helm the club will continue to endure the stench he instigated . That’s up to them I guess , if the shoe was on the other foot and it was my club I’d want him gone .
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Court
Hopefully if I'm ever up on charges in court, the three key witnesses refuse to testify.
I reckon it's done and dusted, ASADA wont appeal.
The Bombers as a club have already copped their wack. Players will be feeling relieved.
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So what did Hirdy get
So what did Hirdy get banished for a year for, club fined $2 million, loss of draft picks and the club missed out on playing finals for if they were found NOT GUILTY????
Its not over yet
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thats something essendon
thats something essendon supporters would like to know as well. Punished for what, something people didnt like but wasn't illegal is the way it looks and if that is the case then thats piss weak.
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Hird copped it big time , he
Hird copped it big time , he was given a million bucks and went to France for 12 months .
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Governance
The club copped their wack because of lack of governance. Basically they didn't document anything. So, whilst the AFL and everyone else knows that something went on, there are no records to prove or disprove that it was illegal.
I did then the best that I knew how. When I knew better, I did better.
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Well I feel better watching
Well I feel better watching James hird cry on TV 
bullshit I do. You don't get to cry hird you were feeding all your boys unknown concoction of drugs you slimy dog.
I tell ya what if that was my son given the drugs first I'd slap him, then I'd hang hird and dank by there balls and make them squeal till they told me what my son was given.
Can't believe most think it's okay now. Jobe Watson was quoted as saying I STILL DON'T NO WHAT I WAS GIVEN in today's paper.
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And to reply to Bradz, you
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Frozen
Sea Kem and Gilly, I've noticed that ASADA is keeping frozen samples of the players blood for the next seven years. They're still trying to develop a test for Thymosin 4 at the moment. Probably well and truly out of the bloodstream (if it was actually there) by the time they took the samples anyway.
This is where the Pie boys are dead in the water, they've returned positive tests.
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The fact they (supposedly)
The fact they (supposedly) did not keep records says it all to me, I do not believe for one minute that any professional AFL club would not keep records - not only to prove there was nothing wrong done but to keep a record of what works and what doesn't.
They (supposedly) don't know what they injected them with. What happens when these players get older and a couple develop cancer or have other health issues.
Club doctor certainly had his concerns about what was being done and was then kept in the dark when he raised the issue in writing....... Oh and his letter seems to have evaporated along with the records.....
Governance - what crap - its a lot more than that.
And if Dank is above board as he claims he is why doesn't he come forward with the records he say he has (instead of claiming he will only do so in the correct forum) - at least for the players and their families sake.
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i am with you
I am with you gillyl, players not guilty fair enough the dons staff not guilty I don't think so guilty as sin , James Hird "I didnt know " well as coach of the team he should have known . Agree with you if it was my boy I would be tearing Hird a second arsehole
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Sigh........ Hird is the
Sigh........
Hird is the coach.....
Are you guys clueless to the size of the football dept in AFL clubs nowadays....
Ask yourselves again why would one of the fairest and best ever in the comp all of a sudden go down this road if he thought it was wrong....
Talk about guilty until proven innocent!!
Oh and besides all that - It was a supplements program right?
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sigh..... who is responsible
sigh..... who is responsible
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Thompson
Still all on Hird is it Fellas?
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Watsons scum
I cant stand the arsewipes. Watson is full of shit and should hand back the charlie he cheated of someone eles.
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Pfff
I bet you its not yet over. WADA and ASADA wont let this lie. In the overall scheme of doping in sport it is to big and would sent a wrong message to all elite athletes.
So watch this space.
Dopers are always trying to stay one step ahead of the testing by using newly modified drugs, just as the workers are trying to use synthetic Cannibinoids to bypass D&A testing in the workplace. Blood that is sus is kept, and when a test for the substane is developed the can will open again.
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your on the money
you are so right cransy tip of the ice burgh , was so very interesting to hear the mum of an elite junior gymnast ring the 6pr sport show last Saturday , she told the story of how kids as young as 10 and 11 are being drug tested and how if they are in the Wais system they have to run every thing past the medical staff even down to a panadol and at what time it was given so it can be recorded , funny the dons couldn't do that
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Its a harsh call Cransy to
Its a harsh call Cransy to call them "Dopers"...
They have just been cleared and free to play...
You/we may not like what went on, yes I agree they have pushed the boundaries here but its all in the past now...
The Collingwood boys will be lucky to ever pull the boots on again and Crowley.... Dumb Kkkkkkkkkknt
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Crowley should be right if he can get them to all not agree what it was.
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Evidence lol
Having any evidence at all for a finding of guilt , isn’t a priority for the tribunal regarding Crowley .. given he was previously found guilty regarding sooky lala without one iota of it ..
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