new fisheries minister
Submitted by hezzy on Mon, 2021-03-15 17:37
todays news is premier marky mgowan is demoting mr tinley the current fisheries minister
he has been given notice he will be moved on
also interesting to note the central northern seat was lost by nationals vince cattania and won by labor , that take sin shark bay ,,so the locals must have been swayed a little by the state wide reductions on demersals , they got there way and likley many voted accordingly ,,,.. mr tinleye rewards is to be demoted
bit or irony in that for him giving them locals what they wanted , helping to win the seat and then get the chop
interesting to see who the new minister is
lets hope he is not too green leaning and does actually fish
hezzy
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scotto
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Shit.
That's not good news. Peter Tinley has done some very good things as fisheries minister, including clearing up the ambiguity of divers having 5 mins to check their crays on deck, just to name a quick 1.
I wonder if it has anything to do with Ben Wyatt retiring?
VIC DORY
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There was never any
There was never any ambiguity, divers don't have 5 minutes to check their catch for undersize/tarspot and they never have. They have 5 minutes to tail clip them, if a diver surfaces and has an undersize or a tarspot in their catch bag they are committing an offence.
Rob H
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there was ambiguity, it is not specifically listed in Legislation but was interpretted differently a few years back.
There is nothing in legislation "if a diver surfaces..."
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scotto
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completely and utterly wrong Vic Dory
straight from the WA fisheries cray brochure:
"Fisheries Officers in normal circumstances allow five minutes from when a diver returns to the vessel for divers to sort, recheck for any totally protected lobster and tail clip their catch (see page 14), before undertaking their inspection."
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/Documents/recreational_fishing/licences/rec_licence_rock_lobster.pdf
this was bought in after the Bret Carter debacle.
its comments like yours Vic, that create further ambuguity. familiarise yourself with the rules, and think before posting something you know little or nothing about.
VIC DORY
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Also with regards to the
Sent you a PM
Rob H
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Your right, doesn’t look to
Your right, doesn’t look to be any ambiguity at all?
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VIC DORY
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A diver surfacing is deemed
A diver surfacing is deemed to have taken the crays in their catch bag, you are meant to size and check them as you snare or grab them before putting them in your catch bag.
There's case law as to what taken means, comes down to whether a cray is free to come and go and that doesn't include being inside a catch bag.
Brock O
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Dont worry about a PM...post
Dont worry about a PM...post it ? You should be sorting your catch down there but do have the 5 min once back at vessel.
Rob H
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Cheers for the PM Vic, but a
Cheers for the PM Vic, but a constant problem that pops up as we have seen already, is Fisheries getting ahead of themselves and "making it up as they go".
I have seen this personally, where a FO on the ground (or mid level) makes a prosecution decision on the run following which upper management with unlimited budgets take upon themselves to defend to the death.
And we all know the shortcomings of our "justice system" where money buys results and it is simply luck whether you get a sympathetic judge.
Fisheries, while they have some discretion and leeway, are not lawmakers, they are upholders.
And at the end of it all, they forgot that it was all about protecting the resource where it needed protecting, not because they locked themselves in and burned their standing among law abiding fisho's, all for nothing.
It would be good to submit a FOI request for how much they spent on Bret Carter, but I have no doubt the answer would be "it is not possible to quantify this information and is not in the public interest".
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little johnny
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Like to see
Free diver do it vic .
dodgy
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I think labor called North
I think labor called North West Central early. Catania is in front in the counting.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
dano83
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Yeah, they seem a bit less
Yeah, they seem a bit less green than last election... hope it stays that way. Don't need no more hasty decisions and price increases
slugger
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Vince
Is still a good chance
postal votes always favour sitting members
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Maybe the new person is a
Maybe the new person is a fan of eating sharks and hands out a couple of licences to fulfill his dies in the north west
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
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well i hope vince wins his
well i hope vince wins his seat ,
lot more to count yet ,, , but they had written him off ,,
NORTH WEST CENTRAL
7hhours ago
+8.0% ALP
PREDICTION:NAT AHEAD
ABC PREDICTION
National ahead
SWING -8.0% NAT
National Party
Vince Catania(MP)
Vote:52.1%
Labor Party
Cherie Sibosado
Vote:47.9%
58.1% counted
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Vince
Labor has never forgotten about Vince jumping ship and joining the National Party years back and since then there has only been minimal moneys invested by the State Govt in the North West electorate compare to other regions, so if he loses then things up there may change like support for fixing the One Mile Jetty that is on the verge of falling down
hezzy
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looks like he will retain his
looks like he will retain his seat which is good imo
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Rob H
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Don Punch Minister for
Don Punch Minister for Fisheries...
Never heard of him?
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He reckons he knows you lol
He reckons he knows you lol
Bring on April
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Not sure what that means?
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It's a joke
It's a joke
Bring on April
Rob H
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Ha, was a bit subtle then
Ha, was a bit subtle then for me!
I have done quite a bit of lobbying on various issues plus involved via RFW so I have no doubt my name would pop up if he searched my name in "ministerial correspondence" or "Director of Fisheries" correspondence
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So anyone have any info on
So anyone have any info on this bloke? All I can read is he's a Bunno boy so hopefully an outdoorsy fella with fisho's in mind.
Love the West!
Rob H
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exactly the opposite, a
exactly the opposite, a career administrator by the looks.
Hopefully he isnt just a puppet for Fisheries big ideas but I have a disturbing picture in my head of more than a couple of the new ministers saying to Mark "but I don't know anything about (enter random portfolio here)"
We can get an idea of Fisheries big ideas reflected here from a recent contributor on FW
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Yeah! That's what I was
Yeah! That's what I was worried about.
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Supposed to be a good bloke,
Supposed to be a good bloke, according to a friend who knows him well. Hasn't been much of a doer in parliament to date so hopefully he doesn't try to make a name for himself at our expense!
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