http://fishwrecked.com/forum/another-fuggin-shark-attack

 Im inbetween.  Eye for an eye. and then again it is there home.  Something definatly needs to be done tho.  If the shark is killed how do we kno that it was the one that killed the young fella?  

Tony  Barrass's article in the paper was a load of crap. He said "Its not their (sharks) territory, its ours." Well where else are they going to live? the forest?

I agree that something must be done, and if some are killed, they are killed in a humane way, not stabbed and have their fins cut off to sink to the bottom.

But, what if Poddy's shark was the one that killed the bloke in the paper? (RIP)

Human life is too precious to gamble, Hugh Edwards our local talented author and highly experienced diver, supports the rogue theory that several of the attacks on our coast are highly likely to be the same shark.

THE WAY TO ENSURE shark IDENTITY IS TO FOLLOW THE U.S EXAMPLE AND HAVE SATELITE TRACKERS THAT TRACK THE INDIVIDUAL SHARKS when they travel on the surface , they cant be tracked submerged but this set up is far more useful  than a few sonar bouys.  Discovery channel has a programme called Shark Men which have studied and tracked  individual sharks over many years IN THE PACIFIC OCEAN ,and have generated a complex history of indivdual movements of great whites. 

In SOUTH AUSTRALIA they have a programme where they moniter the individual shark movements and have assigned individul sharks a christian name, they have traced movements along the aussie coast and internationally, the public can access this information . South Africans have a simular programme they have tracked many sharks including a shark  named Nicole that was tracked fom Cape Town to Ningaloo w.a and return. 

The so called world first technology response, made by the wa government using local sonar buoys, that have been placed off a few popular beaches is a low tech approach by comparison to what has been achieved over seas by privately funded groups. The resopnse made in W.A is along the lines of whats the cheapest thing we can do, to appear like we are doing some thing, and is simply not good enough.  I DONT BLAME OUR SCIENTISTS who work hard with the minute funding provided they do the best they can. Whats worse is the limited funds allocated to the W.A. programme and funded by tax payers, does not give the public acess to the limited information recorded. 

IDENTIYING INDIVIDUAL SHARKS RESPONSIBLE FOR ATTACKS AND CULLING THEM WOULD APPEASE THE LOONIES WHO BELIEVE EVERY SHARK IS SACRED. So Mr Barnett put some real money where your mouth is and fund a real world class system then the government could genuinely claim a world class system and not the half baked low tech third rate effort out there now.

As for the fisheries response of, we will put baited hooks out for a day at the site of the attack , just who do you think your fooling , this pathetic response is laughable you dont really want to cull the shark , its all the feel good crap that pretends to do something.  Finally for the local shark expert scientist who told us that great whites are an endangered species with only 20 left in the entire world and that there is no evidence that their numbers are on the rise, go out and talk to real people who work on and in the ocean, pro fishermen , wet line, marine specimen collectors and abalone divers who well give your their practical experience that numbers are on the rise and not your office paper shuffling, tea drinking, conferencing and leaving the office at 4 pm bullshit.  

Given the financial state of WA something " World Leading" needs to be done. Lets face it 5 fatalities in 10 months - no one else is experiencing this anywhere. When faced with a challenge we can't turn our back on this any longer - who knows how far this is impacting on the Tourism of the state - Ok do more Elle MacPherson commercials - I'm not complaining about that! But lets turn a worst possible scenario around with some world's best practice - no one can deny the opportunity does not exist now.

Barrass is a total dickhead. He recently wrote an article about how cyclists shouldn't be on the road. I was going to write in and complain, except then I'd have to admit to reading the crap.

I'd consider supporting killing individual sharks, if they really proven maneaters, but I certainly I wouldn't sanction killing them based on size or numbers.

Human life isn't precious, least people often don't treat it that way, so that is the same right? But then sharks are no more sacred than individual people, and look at what people do to people?

If you don't like it, I reckon just stay out of the water, and yes - I dive.

 ive been reading a couple of your comments further up @zoggy84 u said an eye for an eye,  u must remember that sharks are animals and obviously dont have any rule or law, therefore as an animal.. for example if a dog mauls a child to death there is absolutely no reason why that dog should be kept a live as it poses as a serious threat, same should go for sharks, sure i do agree that there should be a kulling of some kind, but more research is neededt o "understand" them so we dont overkill. 

As the number of humans on earth increases, and more going the water, this issue will get worse. If we take it to the nth degree, I guess we should kill all the sharks to keep it safe for us humans........complete crap.

There are billions of humans, and not that many great whites, whilst I feel for the families of the victims, it is a risk you take going in the water, and great whites are doing they are designed to do, humans are not. I look down the coast some days and see thousands of people in the water (I am usually one of them) and wonder why there are not more shark attacks. If I get taken, I say stay the heck away from the shark, it was not its fault, it was mine for being in its habitat.

I am no greenie, I killed a shark yesterday for food,  but the whole redneck attitude of kill everything that is a risk to humans is just too much........

 Omfg here we go again

Haha

Why should a shark get left alone, to kill again...

When a family pet.... loved and grown up with a family all its life, is tormented by someone, pulling its tail and stiring it up, finally snaps and just bites the person tormenting it... is forced to be put down!!!

Bugger the shark...  The authorities have had enough time to do something about them.  I would completely agree with a controlled cull.

Not wipe the things out.. just thin down the numbers a bit.... 

Maybe take out a few of the larger ones, and just tag and release the smaller ones..

Why cant the government even pay rec fishermen to tag them?  Put a small price on each shark that is tagged!  Help towards fishing licenses, fuel etc..

AND its helping towards further research....  The more sharks that are tagged, the more we will be notified when they come in close to shore.

Just an idea...

if the governement paid you to catch them and something went wrong the lawsuit would be huge!

Doooma thet are completely in two different situations, as you have said, a dog is prodded and pocked, as a shark is just doing what years of evolution has taught it to do......survive, the sharks aren't going out and just biting people to kill them, they are feeding to survive. I don't support the culling theory, I think it will be waste of time and money. I also agree with the previous comments...if you don't like the shark attacks, STAY-OUT-OF-THE-WATER !!!!

and yes I do dive and accept the consequences if I get bitten, I also admire them when I see them in the water, they are a magnificent creation, and yes they are built to kill......but only to feed!

IMO its all been done by one shark that has learnt an easy way to get a good feed and will continue doing so until it is killed, the hard part is making sure you have got the right one!!

not quite sure how one Shark can be in 3 places at once?

dont get me started about cyclists either.

but i might be nail polishing the 357 shells for the demersal ban dive season. They say 'the shark that eats you is the one you never see', sure but if its over 3 meters and giving me grief i might just give it some of the peace stick!!

You here nothing until something happens, it's there home the ocean, they feed from the ocean we are in there feeding ground, and before anyone says no heart or anything like that, YES I do feel for the guy and his family and friends, I wish it upon no one. as for a family pet like a dog ( as mentioned above) you can train a dog, try train a shark,

Hey if you had a dog attack or kill a humane it would be destroyed so whats so different about a shark none in my mind if it does the deed turn it in to a feed

 Dogs are domesticated , sharks are wild . I agree terminating the rogue's as they do with croc's up north .

who goes into a yard where you know there is a killer dog

the people who go swimming/surfing where a large predator has been repeatedly sighted and given a nick name "Brutus"  need to explain their actions to the kids family. greatest sympathy to his family and friends.

what happens the day after, parents have allowed their kids to go swimming/surfing in the same area, these parents are probably the same ones that allow their 10 - 15 year olds to go to north bridge till 3am

Studies have shown the great white to be a slow breeding shark and it has been declared protected for that reason studies not hear say gut feeling or i think studies by professional people.

the same people who post on this site are no doubt the same ones who scream bloody murder when fishing regs are changed without good science to back up the need for change now they want the regs changed because they feel there are to many great whites don't be such dam hypocrites, when it suits you you want change because you think it needs to be changed based on nothing more than emotion.

When it doesn't suit you you are outraged and demand there be dam good studies to show that change is needed.

I reckon the sharks have always been out there but haven't had the need to come in close to shore chasing a meal before and I noticed a lot of them come around the capes region once the Salmon start running to fill up as was the case in previous years but the salmon run in the last few years and it is well documented on this web-site has been virtually non-existent.They've started to get a taste for humans out of pure need but that may not always be the case if the salmon return to their normal migration pattern. Before everyone starts to pull my opinion to pieces remember it's only a theory and only time will tell but I think that when you start stuffing around with nature certainly about things you don't understand and I guess I come into that category but I reckon it's best wait and see if things don't sort itself out before a culling programme begins.

 Really interesting reads here guys 

The white pointer that I no that stays in rocko same white that took a good friend off mine in Bryan guest now he was out crabbing not far from a wreck that holds pinkies just a thought.

But I'm with a few off u maybe start getting rid off the bad ones.... Feel for the family they will have a coffin empty and will never get a death certificate cause body was lost at sea

When a dog attacks a human (or livestock on farms) one of the main reasons for it being terminated is it gets the taste of whatever it kills' blood. This intern gives it a thirst for more....... do you think maybe a prehistoric animal that has evolved into the perfect hunter (not killing machine they hunt for food) has the same reaction once tasting blood.

Shark attacks used to be a bite, most of the time they seemed to be a curiosity thing or a case of the shark thinking this thing is a threat it's me or it. Lot's of people have done studies to testify sharks may not actually like human flesh and we are to bony BUT, this shark on the weekend took the body. The bloke on the jet ski tried to retrieve the guys body only to be attacked by the shark as well which clearly showed it was defending it's food (lions, tigers, wolves they all do it).

So maybe an argument could be put forward that it might be one or two rogue sharks with the taste for a new blood, and let's face it alot easier to catch then a fast swimming seal or snapper? Hell if we can't be bothered cooking dinner we go get a feed of dirty bird because it's easier so what's to say these sharks aren't doing the same??

Why is it when someone unfortunately gets taken by a shark whilst swimming, diving or surfing in the sharks backyard, most people want to kill the shark. When a so called "intelegent' life form ( human) breaks into someones house & beats them to death for a few dollars or a stupid vehicle,  people blame a poor childhood or upbringing.

If everyone is so concerned about the value of human life, then why dont we & the government do more about the killers & thugs that are actually roaming our streets. More people get killed in house break-ins a year than get taken by wild animals of any discription, but we accept this as part of life. I dont think so.

There is no demand for 'culling' the low lifes that perpitrate these crimes against other humans, yet a person dies because they unfortunately look similar to a prime food species (seal) to a shark & the shark must die.

If it was a roag & attacked frequently in a certain area then by all means do it, but it's very hard to determain if a shark is the correct one that killed without first killing the shark.

Humans call humans the superior & most intelligent species but sometimes i beg to differ. Protecting yourself in a dangerous situation is different to killing something because it could interfere with your leisure activity.

All i can say is beware of the dangers of what ever we may do & if something goes wrong then dont put the blame on something that is doing what comes 'natural' to it.

This is my opinion & i respect the opinion of others without critisism & my thoughts go out to the families of shark attack victims.

cheers & be safe

Rob 

You know what i find funny. Is that fisherman on hear will complain about small sharks eating there fish. "Getting sharked" well what do you think east smaller sharks? GW so maybe we could be already seeing a effect of lower numbers. (i know most of you will argue less commercial fishing well if that is the case than we have another issue as there food source is drying up with over fishing in general.) But which one is it. 

Seals are a huge pest. What keeps seal numbers down? Anybody prepared to say GW, well Seal numbers are taking of at plague proportions. Every surf i have had for nearly the last year has been interrupted by seals. On Sat i checked my local and two boogers and one seal in water. Well seals eat a lot of fish, about 100 kilos a day each seal so when their numbers get even worse what then? 

Squid in places around the world like the Sea of Cortex are getting so aggressive they are attacking humans. Funny part is that sea was completely stripped f sharks by there commercial fishery. What eat squid? GW

So i could be wrong but are we seeing more Seals? Are you? What about Squid numbers? Are we seeing less fish in local waters?

We may kill all the GW's and then what. What will we do if the Oceans do completly collapse? We dont just need the ocean for a pass time or a hobie.

Dont want to be eaten than stay out of the water.

It astounds me that people think a GW is not intelligent enough to remember how to get an easy feed.

FFS, just go to a fish farm or even a pet shop and walk past the big ponds.

Koi, Tuna, even a friggen Goldfish in a bowl !

All those "stupid" fish need to see is a human's shape / shadow and the water starts boiling for a feed.

It even happens with wild fish in open water  ....

So to think a GW can't remember that a boat / human can lead to an easy feed is just plain ignorant.

Fishing, Feeding, watching, cage diving - people have only got themselves to blame for this problem.

 Ha ha nice opinion deckie it would be nice if we could start culling the low life's.

Hundreds of people die every year in car crashes but you don't see every one freaking out and stop using the roads.

I wouldn't wish a shark attack on anyone and much sympathy to the families of these victims but like many people say on here it's there territory and we all know the risks. 

I am also an avid diver and spearo and enter the water knowing and excepting the risks 

I have to agree with Dizzy 100%

I used to keep fish in tanks and they would go sick whenever I'd walk past, even banging on the lids to get my attention to feed them..

If they didnt learn or adapt... they wouldnt do that, and would only eat when something actually turned up floating past their noses!!

GW's are protected under Federal and International law WAFisheries couldn't kill them even if they wanted to.

If you really wanted to kill one (not saying i would,except if it had taken 1 of my family ,mate etc) it wouldnt be that difficult 30 30 bang stik to head and drive off, unless you are caught in the act who would know?