Freo win their first premiership

 Well done to Freo for winning their first piece of silverware today ...

 

Oh hang on Peel... yeah Peel , not Fremantle.

 

East Perth... what is going on?

 

Connor Blakely BOG - 15 games.... for Freo. 5 regular season games for Peel. 

 

What do you reckon about changing criteria that you have to play equal or more games for WAFL club that AFL to be eligible to make the finals of WAFL more authentic?

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Sun, 2016-09-25 17:58

 It's no different to last year, or the year before or the year before that. Peel had the freo guys then but couldn't get the job done, now suddenly people are saying,,,  IT'S NOT FAIR. What about Subiaco winning all their flags with ex AFL players in their team, there were 8 today I think.

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They're players that aren't fully afl trained all year

Sun, 2016-09-25 18:52

 that's the difference, recruiting ex afl players is fair if you can get em. Feel sorry for the real peel players that lost the opportunity to Play so the freo duds could play. 

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Sun, 2016-09-25 18:55

 It's all about putting your best team on the field.

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$ubi are nothing but poachers

Sun, 2016-09-25 19:24

$ubi are nothing but poachers and salary cap cheats

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 Good signs when your

Sun, 2016-09-25 18:04

 Good signs when your development team is top dog , cleaning up ..it’s all about depth .

Makes you wonder why East Perth weren’t in the mix just not good enough on all levels  ..
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19 freo players couldn't play

Sun, 2016-09-25 18:05

19 freo players couldn't play for shit all year and really weren,t that impressive today. Feel for the boys that played all year only to get shoved aside to boost peels chances. Freo played finals last year so didn't give a rats about peel. Talk about flat track bullies!!!!!

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Brown paper bags vs an AFL

Sun, 2016-09-25 19:23

Brown paper bags vs an AFL reserves side. The WAFL was the loser today.

Another illegitimate flag to go with East Perth's 3 back in the early noughties. 

 

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 You're saying the Royals

Mon, 2016-09-26 17:15

 You're saying the Royals didn't deserve to win their flags back in the early noughties? They weren't even aligned with the Eagles then.

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 Yes they were, they had a

Mon, 2016-09-26 18:27

 Yes they were, they had a host club arrangement and were stacked with West Coast players. Strike a line through 2000-2002 as well as 2016.

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 They were a host club as you

Mon, 2016-09-26 19:34

 They were a host club as you say but weren't fully aligned until 2014. To say they didn't earn those flags fair and squire is utter bullshit.

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Potatoes potatoes.Fact

Mon, 2016-09-26 21:44

Potatoes potatoes.

Fact remains you had exclusive access to players good enough to be on an AFL list and reaped the rewards.

End of the day the only folk who see these flags as legitimate are those that follow the club formally known as 'East Perth'

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 I'm sure the players who

Tue, 2016-09-27 14:18

 I'm sure the players who played their arses off to win those flags would think they were legit, certainly wasn't handed to them on a platter like you seem to think they were. Anyhoo you've got your opinion and I've mine.

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 Sounds like we are agreeing

Tue, 2016-09-27 16:20

 Sounds like we are agreeing with each other to me as I already said that at end of the day the only folk who see these flags as legitimate are those that follow the club formally known as 'East Perth'. Obviously this also extends to the playing group.

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 Nah I sorta think you

Tue, 2016-09-27 16:31

 Nah I sorta think you misconstrued my point. Anyways nuff from me.

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Just winding ya up mate. Ya

Tue, 2016-09-27 21:26

Just winding ya up mate. Ya did have some very good local boys but having a stack of AFL players in your side did you no harm.

Would it make ya feel better if I told you I played for East Perth in the development squad from 13s to 16s before our area was transferred to Subiaco. One time I wore my Swannies beanie to training and my coach tore me a new arsehole. I can still feel the spit spraying over my face.

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Haha, 2000 team was 'Stacked'

Thu, 2016-09-29 16:22

Haha, 2000 team was 'Stacked' with 6 AFL listed players! Go the Royals

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 No such team exists anymore

Thu, 2016-09-29 17:36

 No such team exists anymore

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Thu, 2016-09-29 20:26

 Yep Royals forever more

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 Haha you boys should pop

Thu, 2016-09-29 21:43

 Haha you boys should pop down to Basso when the West Coast Reserves play there next season. Always a good crowd and good banter with our two teams.

This is what we stuck up on our scoreboard when you guys first played at Basso after becoming the West Coast Eagles Reserves.

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Hard not seeing Freo improve

Sun, 2016-09-25 22:39

Hard not seeing Freo improve into the 8 next year on the back of that..getting rid of a few has beens and 2 or 3 good ones coming back. Just need a to recruit well and it should all come together.

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 Umm a state league flag with

Mon, 2016-09-26 06:12

 Umm a state league flag with a handful of good afl players along with another 10 or so that can't get a game at afl level and you reckon it's gonna equate to a 10+ game turnaround next year? 

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 Hahaha. Peel Thunder are a

Sun, 2016-09-25 22:48

 Hahaha. Peel Thunder are a joke as as Freo

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 Well done freo thunder on

Mon, 2016-09-26 08:28

 Well done freo thunder on winning a flag.

 

And they did it with out cheating.

 

Its the rules.  If you dont like the rules change them.  

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Hmmm

Tue, 2016-09-27 08:06

Oh your back. I knew as soon as Freo finally got something, the MIA's would front up. Haha
6 months to go & it will all start again. Lol.....
Congrats to Dangerfeild, a stand out player & favorite.

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Randall stuck around and

Tue, 2016-09-27 08:39

Randall stuck around and copped it all season. Credit where credit's due.

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yep super team

Mon, 2016-09-26 09:37

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More to the point, Karratha

Mon, 2016-09-26 12:22

More to the point, Karratha Kats got up this year! Go the Katters

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Mon, 2016-09-26 16:44

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 State footy is the  feeders

Mon, 2016-09-26 15:18

 State footy is the  feeders into afl.so we cant go putting silly rules  in place as to who and who cant play.

Yesterday  was  a top day with 15000 there to see it.

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The rules are the rules

Wed, 2016-09-28 10:16

I follow the eagles, but living in Mandurah well done Thunder. About time to, as they have been in the comp ~20 yrs.

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Still amounts to nothing for

Wed, 2016-09-28 11:16

Still amounts to nothing for them as an AFL ressies side. May be the rules and it'll be written in the WAFL records but no one with ever view it as a legitimate flag.

I'm happier with a wooden spoon than a fake flag and I'll turn my back on Swannies if they ever align to an AFL club.

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So have the shockers

Wed, 2016-09-28 10:42

 So do they change the rules to advantage them.its not a fair competition

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Hey Unc. Jamie Bennell has

Wed, 2016-09-28 11:12

Hey Unc. Jamie Bennell has signed with Swannies as has David Ellard and it’s looking likely we’ll get back Clancee Pearce and are looking to poach Tendai Mzungu as well as getting back Nathan Blakely after his ACL in the first bounce this season.

Will feel a bit sorry for Perth if we are successful but after the way $ubiaco have raided our playing stocks over the past 3-4 years it’s fair game.

Should at the very least get us off bottom 

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 Swings and roundabouts .

Wed, 2016-09-28 11:34

 Swings and roundabouts . Last season Freo sent half of Peel to Adelaide during the WAFL finals don’t recall opposition supporters sooking about that . In a ideal world the reserves of all afl clubs should be in their own competition , just not viable I guess .  

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Alignment sides have made 3

Wed, 2016-09-28 12:12

Alignment sides have made 3 of the past 4 grand finals and if it wasn’t for a gutsy West Perth effort , $ubi rolling out the brown paper bags and both AFL teams going deep into finals last year they’d likely have the past 4 flags.

Previous to the alignment Peel's best finish was 6th which they did twice and have mostly finished last with a few 8th spots in there. Peel are like that deadbeat cousin that no one in the family particularly likes and is a drain on the rest of the family always taking and giving nothing back but you put up with them because you have no choice. All of a sudden they back some impossible multi and have a windfall expect you to respect where they are at in life.

Have I mentioned I don't like Peel? 

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 Neither Dockers nor Eagles

Wed, 2016-09-28 12:06

 Neither Dockers nor Eagles changed the rules.  It was the model agreed upon by all WAFL clubs.  Do the qualification rules need to change?  I think they do.  But does that make this flag any less legitimate than subiaco's past two? Or their three-peat a few years ago, or East Perth's three while hosting west coast.  In my mind no.

Everyone should stop complaining and just start working on making the competition fairer.

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Should at least change the

Wed, 2016-09-28 12:30

Should at least change the rules so that you have to have played as many games for the WAFL club as you did for the AFL club to qualify for finals.

Peel from from about 8 Freo listed players in round 23 to 17 Freo players for the 1st Semi. It's not fair on the comp and it's definitely not fair on the local boys that missed out after playing in the league side all year.

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 While on the subject of

Wed, 2016-09-28 12:23

 While on the subject of gimme premierships that afl mob back in ‘92 and ‘94 done alright with the cream of WA talent in more or less a state side 

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Wed, 2016-09-28 12:35

 A WA state side?


In 1986 the WA State of Origin side played Victoria in July.

Of the 22 in that side, the following players were on the Eagles list at the start of 1987:

Geoff Miles, Shane Ellis, Dean Laidley, Ross Glendinning, Peter Davidson, Phil Narkle, Andrew MacNish, Laurie Keene, Dwayne Lamb, Colin Waterson. Thats 10.

The 12 players who werent on our list were Brad Hardie, Rod Lester-Smith, Leon Baker, Gary Buckenara, Peter Sartori, Peter Wilson, Brian Peake, Maurice Rioli, Michael Mitchell, Wayne Blackwell, Paul Harding, Mark Bairstow.

In other words the Eagles got the fringe players left after the VFL teams took the cream.

Of those 10 players, precisely one played in a Premiership for West Coast (Dwayne Lamb). 2 of the players who went to Victoria were subsequently traded back to West Coast (in normal trade deals) and both played in premiership sides (Wilson 92, 94 & Harding 92).

The following West Australians (off the top of my head) were playing for other VFL sides in 1987:

Jim Krakouer, Phil Krakouer, Mike Richardson, Michael Christian, Craig Starcevich, John Ironmonger, Wayne Henwood, Craig Holden, Simon Beasley, Phil Cronan, Andrew Purser, Murray Rance, Warren Dean, Earl Spalding, Alan Johnson, Steve Turner, Nicky Winmar, Jon Dorotich, Bill Duckworth, Ken Judge, Ken Hunter, Richard Dennis etc

So apart from those 22 and the 12 from our SOO side of 86 (thats 34 players by the way) West Coasts initial list of 37 was a state side 


:rolleyes:

In case some arent across history, the Eagles commenced with a list of 37 players v existing VFL sides which had 52. It is true that we had first choice of WAFL players at the end of 1986 but this was only after the other sides had delayed the entry of the Eagles so that players including Wilson, Sartori, Dennis, Winmar, Bairstow, Mitchell, Spalding, Christian, Starcevich and Dean, were first signed by VFL teams before the Eagles were granted a licence. So we got the best 37 players from the WAFL after the best 10 from 1986 were already signed up by Vic clubs. Given that 10 players from WA would be a good number in the annual draft, the balance were essentially the leftovers, late round picks if you like.

At the end of 1987, we did not participate in the draft but instead again got unrestricted access to the WAFL. The same WAFL that in the previous season had 47 players taken from it i.e. there wasnt much left.

At the end of 1988, the Eagles got 5 priority picks (again WAFL only) and then took place in a draft that was compromised in that all the other clubs could only take 1 player each from the WAFL (huge concession 

:rolleyes:)

In 1989, we were down to 2 pre-draft selections (compare this with Brisbane's 6 and Sydneys 4). Again, all teams were then restricted to one WAFL player, this resulted in the unusual situation of 6 of the first 9 picks being from WA. West Coast with its normal first round pick at 4 (based on finsihing 4th last in 1988) got Matera. Then players such as Brad Rowe, Mark Brayshaw, Stephen Edgar, Brad Tunbridge, Dale Kickett, Ben Allan, Gavin Rose, Peter Cransberg & Dennis Repacholi were picked up before West Coast got Tony Evans (64), Brett Heady (92), Dean Kemp (117).... So every club passed on those 3. No concession at all.

1990, West Coast got 2 pre-draft picks, again, Sydney got 6 and Brisbane 5.

The Eagles pre-draft picks and the concessions on WAFL picks (one per club) were to compensate for the Eagles having a smaller list than other clubs (15 players less) and to allow that list to be lifted up over a 5 year period to limit damage that would be inflicted on the WAFL if they had just allowed 50 in year one + unlimited drafts thereafter. It wasnt a concession as such, it was a drip system to allow us to build our list to the same size as other clubs over an extended period and limit WAFL damage. The Eagles last pre-draft pick was in 1991. Remember, these picks werent the number 1 pick in Australia but rather the best player in WA from a comp that had been decimated - and has never recovered.

The Eagles skill/luck in its first 5 years was that the predatory behaviour pre West Coast of VFL clubs and the delay in its introduction in 1986, forced them to take on a ton of unproven kids. This was extended over a 5 year period by the list size restriction which was dealt with by given us priority access to a couple of WAFL players each year for 4 years. Basically, we were forced into a situation of picking up the best kids in WA over a 4 year period which just happened to coincide with the best WA Under 18 side in history. We inadvertently stumbled on the recipe for building a good side - draft as many talented kids as possible in a short time frame. We were assisted in this by the abject amateurism of VFL sides re the draft at that stage that saw them overlook some talented kids. I mean 3 guys got drafted ahead of Matera and every club overlooked Kemp & Heady all in the one draft.

West Coast of the early 90's was a great side because it drafted lots of kids and came up with the formula that works in the draft era. 

We were nowhere near gifted a state side. A state side was the 35+ gun WA players running around for other sides in 1987.

I mean imagine is we had started with a real state side:

Leon Baker, Maurice Rioli, Gary Buckenara, Phil Krakouer, Jim Krakouer, Nicky Winmar, Brad Hardie, Simon Beasley, Earl Spalding, Peter Sartori, Andrew Purser, Ken Hunter, Wayne Blackwell, Mark Bairstow, Rod Lester-Smith, Jon Dorotich, Bill Duckworth, Michael Christian, Michael Mitchell, etc 

Then you would have had something to whinge about!

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 Struth Frosty .. lol

Wed, 2016-09-28 12:58

 Struth Frosty .. lol , there was certainly some shrewd drafting in those initial years by getting the jump on vfl teams attaining the cream of wafl talent

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I didn't write that! Yeah

Wed, 2016-09-28 13:15

I didn't write that! Yeah getting Dean Kemp at 117 was shrewd indeed. Now, whether we hid him in the bush leagues or not... that's another story for another time 

I’d copy and paste the Freo version when they first entered the league and blunder after blunder they achieved but it might shut the page down but we all know the story… Mcleod, Croad, Lloyd, Lucus, Tarrent, Headland, Bell, Farmer etc etc

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