That will make for very expensive fishing trips.
Fishing as much as we all love doing it is not on the list of required outings and is not encouraged, or condoned.
Exercise is allowed as long as social distancing is maintained and 2 people can walk together
That is physical excercise I suppose
Well what about mental exercise which is also good for your well being and health
Fishing to me is simply being able to get away from it all, not listen to the bombardment of what I should or shouldn't be doing,
and refresh, it is my form of exercise.
Please don't tell me I am wrong for this post, I can and do everything without coming into contact with anything or anyone, I am a firm believer in hygiene and follow all the rules, so far fishing with 2 people from the same household maintaining social distancing practices is not illegal.
You are all still Missing the point. It’s not about you.
It’s all the people you will effect if you have an unfortunate incident. Stay at home for a few weeks and let our services concentrate on the things that matter more. It’s not a big ask really.
No I am not missing the point, I fully understand it all
Why cant't everyone see there are more issues with going to the shops than going fishing
More issues with getting food and other goods delivered
You can say that going fishing is not classified as essentila travel, what about those on here you openly stated they drove past the boat ramps, was that essential or were they just curious to see if others had gone out? the latter I suggest,
One of our readers stated he drove from Karratha to the Port of Dampier and back to see how many boats were out, not sure if that was essential travel?
Until such time as the Governement categorically states that the beaches are closed and the ramps are closed then those that feel they can safely go fishing should be able to without fear of being called out for doing something wrong when in fact currently it isn't.
However if the Government feels it needs to close down recreational fishing then it also needs to stop people from exercising outside of their property.
As I said earlier, fishing for me is my way of exercising and I am sure there are others on here who feel the same.
Why cant't everyone see there are more issues with going to the shops than going fishing
Agreed, and when going to the shops, you need to exercise extreme care
More issues with getting food and other goods delivered Food is essential, fishing is not
You can say that going fishing is not classified as essentila travel, what about those on here you openly stated they drove past the boat ramps, was that essential or were they just curious to see if others had gone out? the latter I suggest,
correct, its not essential, and should be avoided
One of our readers stated he drove from Karratha to the Port of Dampier and back to see how many boats were out, not sure if that was essential travel?
again, should not have been done
Two wrongs don't make a right
If everyone was as disciplined as you, we wouldn't have an issue. Problem is, you are the exception, and too many idiots are ruining it for everyone else.
Reality is, the way WA is acting, it wont be a choice for much longer, and you wont be fishing anywhere anytime soon...legally.
it was me that went for a drive , are you to know what i went down to dampier for , concidering i was in the work truck .
however , i do believe fishing is a form of exercise, for the body and the mind. there is enough going on at the moment to stress a lot of people out weather they will be working for much longer or woried about family and friends everyone needs some sort of outlet for the stress.
Russ, the OP said "One of our readers stated he drove from Karratha to the Port of Dampier and back to see how many boats were out"
He didn't say you were working....My comments were based on what was posted.
my experience is wake up have breakfast do chores then watch rivetting TV then lunch followed by tv then afternoon tea then watch tv then have dinner shower then tv yhippeee how very inspiring to go to shops maybe one a week to get basic essentials which mostly are not there
then go to bed wake up at 6am same process for the past 12 days .... oh sorry forgot come on fish wrecked to see who posted what only to be lectured
{fishing not essential stay at home bring on total ban } but praise for others catch posts.
understand those who have a job want to be safe and dont want people anywhere around ,also understand the civic duty driving to ramps and reporting of number of people that has gone fishing / car park full .
think the gov. has it right now not more than 2 people to congregate , any flouting needs to be dealt with stiff penalties.
there used to be a time when common sense prevailed , now we have a voice and insult others that dont think likewise ,other excuse is , receiving mixed messages its gov. fault.
yes europe is a basket case , no outrage where this virus started ? this is a fishing web site !
It is a tragedy for those fishos planning to travel north for their annual Easter fishing holiday, can only guess at the amount of planning and saving that has gone into their annual Easter break. If I've got the message straight after Wednesday night you will only be able to travel in your own home zone.
Keep your chin up people this virus thing has to end some time.
Sorry mate but what is a tragedy is that we now have over 3000 people a day dying.
People have lost their jobs, their businesses and in many cases life savings have been obliterated.
my Easter plans are out the window and I don't give a F@#& about that. Im much more worried about all the staff I had to lay off and the business I am now breaking down and selling off assets from so I can afford to live.
Easter holidays (and fishing) mean nothing in all of this.
Yes I lack empathy....self control and common sense but we have had 2 deaths at this stage.
I honestly believe we are on the up all ready with our current guidelines in place, the best one being the locking up of travellers returning, by weeks end its hard to see the infected number rising, but thats my uneducated opinion.
I hope you and the other business owners on here can get through this and get everything back up and running better than before.
One of my best friends lives in Portland Oregon (went to school with and grew up with .) He is a band promoter and doing it tough at the moment . The people me and my family spent christmas with (and have travelled with pretty extensively with) live in Ronco Scrivia northen Italy. they are locked in and know people who have not been fortunate. Also some of my family lives on the ACT.
I have travelled a lot and the world is a small place and when a death occurrs overseas (or out of state) people should still care.
Estimates have this shit peaking sometime late may or early June
I think everything is changing to much for our government to think. A direct and clear stance is what is required and it will save plenty of opinion debates media wide. the information the public recieves is critical to making decisions on how they should act be it risk based or not, the wishy washy approach is no longer cutting it.
for example goverment health advise thursday last week it was perfectly safe to take your kids to school, safe to go work, safe to go to the shops, safe to go outside, basicly buisness as usual providing you followed the clear social distancing guidelines and were not required to be in isolation or feeling unwell yourself. fast forward to the end of the weekend and thats considered sacralige.
That being said friday morning I packed the boat up and took my 2 kids out camping, sleeping on the boat out for the weekend by ourselves in the outdoors. Only to come home articulated as sort of red neck criminal. I will confess I am no self proclaimed medical expert like plenty others nor can I read into the future.For myself I beleive to have a little common sense, good morals, considerate of others and ethics common to anyone who grew up on a farm and learnt the respectfull way to hunt and fish.
judging others is not going to save our health we should be keeping a look out for each other, being supportive in the times of need to come.
Everyone has a different situation they are in. In my case I have an auto-immune disease slowly killing me and if I get this Covid 19 I'm finished ...apparently. I'm on a strict diet of only certain foods, cant eat red meat anymore so only fish and chicken is on my menu. I live in a small coastal town with a population of about 1800 and we have 1 supermarket (IGA) that has been stripped, when the delivery truck arrives (last 1 only had 30% of the order) the cops have to be called in to try and keep the peace whilst the hoarders just ransack the joint. Now buying chicken for protein is OK but my local IGA is well known for selling shit that goes off real quick and that's very dangerous. I got lucky a few days ago out wide fishing and my freezer is looking OK for now, I got 9 ducks which give me lots of eggs and the chance of one or two ending up in the oven, got the vegie patch going strong even though every single seed to plant now is not available, sold out. SO...It might not be essential to go fishing right now, but it soon could be.
Recon April and May will produce the best weather we have seen in a decade...fuel will be under a $1 a litre...and there's not a thing we can do about it.
had to go to shop for milk in and out. People worried about fishing with 1 person or themselves . Really . F&$k me I will go without milk from now on . Shops are a massive breeding ground . Hundreds of people . Lives on plastic for up to 3 days ( according to news) Don’t gather in groups keep distance and wash hands . I didn’t see to much of that . Not one person in shops with gloves on . I have 2 daughters looking after people/ 1 son in England in lock down . Fishing last thing on my mind . But if someone wanted to go out ,I wouldn’t rip shit out of them. Understand everyone’s views . Totally . But really . If you go out don’t post otherwise you will be shot by the sounds .
I went out last thursday. Was out of the house for an hour and had no bait, so instead of risking it i had some fun and used only household shit as bait. I was done and dusted with 9 herring in the bag caught with a hand line, can of tuna for burley and a 1/2 round block of dutch smoked cheese. Was alone at the spot and went straight home from shore to door. Probably wont bother again, not worth the judgement from my neighbours who jog together and cough and splutter all over me trying to catch their breath and chew my ear off at the mailbox every day.
This is what was said by Recfish and the Premier and it is specifically aimed at travel within regions.
In order to do our part in preventing the spread and to save lives, fishers need to:
Stay home where possible to minimise social interactions.
Fish locally only, near where you live and limit your time away from home.
Fish with your direct household members (no mates or extended family).
Travel directly to and from your home to prevent any social interactions.
Maintain spatial distancing of 1.5 metres from other people
Do not congregate at land-based fishing locations, instead look for more secluded alternatives
Stay away from popular man-made fishing structures such as jetties
Do not go fishing if you are in quarantine
If you are unwell, you must self-isolate, do not go fishing if self-isolating
Yesterday, the WA Premier Mark McGowan announced laws are being drafted to restrict non-essential travel between regions to protect regional WA.
“Please stop your holidays, stay home – just do your essential stuff,” said the Premier at his press conference.
This will be a great disappointment to many who were looking forward to their fishing trips or holiday plans to regional WA for Easter. It also means we have had to postpone our Albany Salmon Spectacular 2020 event due to take place over the Easter Holidays. We will focus our efforts on making it a salmon fishing bonanza next year that the region deserves.
It is essential for everyone to put the health of our community, especially those most vulnerable, first. We each have to do our part as West Aussies to get through to the other side – when recfishing will have a huge part to play in the social, well-being and economic recovery of this great State of ours.
Please stay safe, look after your loved ones and play your part.
To date I have not heard Recfish or the Premier say you cannot fish locally.
One of the reasons I am pushing hard and some would think pushing back on this is
I want complete clarity and to date no one has that,
The Premier can use terms like urge etc, but until such time as he states you cannot go fishing Locally, fishers will be uncertain.
The Premier has stated that unfortunately you need to cancel holiday plans and fishing in regions other than where you live, but has not to date stopped fishing in your local region.
With the social distancing laws and some people believeing you can and some believing you can't fish, it is a nightmare.
If we are confused how must the Police be? someone may get fined for failing to follow rules which aren't clear to all,
How hard would it be to simply make a statement around this like what was done in Queensland yesterday?
They are still able to go fishing because the Minister said so in his statement,
If our Minister states we can or can't and beaches, ramps and fishing along with surfing etc is either allowed or stopped then so be it.
However the real problem here is the term exercise aand all of what I mentioned above are a form of just that.
Some people walk their dogs and say they are exercising, are they really? or simply taking the dog so it doesn't shit in their yard.
To be honest the more you try to understand it and don't break any laws the harder it gets.
My point was to try and clarify the legal defintion so if someone has a go at me I know where I stand.
Who am I to judge other people's actions if they're not breaking the law?
I won't be going to Bent St that's for sure - good luck walking down that jetty and staying 1.5 meters away from someone.
But I can launch from the beach without interacting with anyone, go 100m offshore (no real pressure on rescue services) catch a meal of squid and herring and provide another meal for my family - got enough fuel in my boat to do that for weeks without having to go to a servo.
"New Federal Government restrictions for coronavirus implemented on Sunday night mean recreational boating and fishing for leisure is no longer permitted."
However key points suggest:
"Boating or fishing for "essential purposes" is allowed, such as travelling to work, buying supplies, or providing for families"
Sooo fishing for 'leisure', no.
Fishing for 'providing for families', yes.
Anybody else got any lawful definitions (moral considerations aside)?
Not allowed out in boat with neighbour/mate . Has to be someone you live with. Still have to keep distance ( 2 people). No interaction with other fishos down ramp. ( putting in /out) Has to be in your local area. Must go straight home . Prob better off staying at home.
Cheers SKull...already told me daughter we are going squiding on the weekend. weather is looking mint and after being locked in the house all week I'm ready to start smashing shit!
Small bit i read...."should"...is different than the terms "Shall"...and as another stated if they wanted it locked down then the ramps would be barricaded with warning signs.
Anybody want to state...just stay at home...Can Go and Get Fucked!!
I am bunkering in besides work and shops because my mum is in the high risk category and I’d rather see her than go fishing before we are all locked in our houses. If we get word that lock down is happening though I reckon a final visit to the old lady and then a launch for some inshore fun with the kids may well be in order.
Thats a shame if it is...endless dickheads asking questions on FB...and so many do good phuks emailing and pushing for a closure because they have phuk all else to do....half these fuks never get out the house on a normal day.
These dicks need to have a look at the stats and the trend in WA...our population compared to the numbers, they know theirs no ripe wide spread infection in the community but there still pushing for full lock down even though it will put more people out of work and affect many more for no faster result.
No it’s not. It’s because we’re the most isolated capital city in the world. To compare - Wa have a population of 2.5 million, Italy has a population of 60 million, most of who are old and hug and kiss all the time. Italy can fit into WA four times!! 83% of our infected have come from cruise ships, over seas travel or in direct contact with any of these. Yes it’s a big deal and we need to protect ourselves, especially our elderly and front line workers but most of us will be fine. I can’t see the problem with going fishing if we keep our social distance at Boat Ramps. Yeah yeah yeah touching fuel handles, going bait shop etc tug tug just wash hands and get on with life. I’m more worried about wa and Australian jobs than I am coronavirus
No it’s not. It’s because we’re the most isolated capital city in the world. To compare - Wa have a population of 2.5 million, Italy has a population of 60 million, most of who are old and hug and kiss all the time. Italy can fit into WA four times!! 83% of our infected have come from cruise ships, over seas travel or in direct contact with any of these. Yes it’s a big deal and we need to protect ourselves, especially our elderly and front line workers but most of us will be fine. I can’t see the problem with going fishing if we keep our social distance at Boat Ramps. Yeah yeah yeah touching fuel handles, going bait shop etc tug tug just wash hands and get on with life. I’m more worried about wa and Australian jobs than I am coronavirus
Very quite atm , my daughter can’t believe it . She thinks it’s how it should be all the time.. now that’s a fact not fiction. Police doing all the hard work in my books.
But honestly , seen public ramp 3 boats either side, all way to close . Just asking for it . No common sense show at all . Watched few boats at local club . All kept way apart , using there brains . If they do shut down boating , it may mean more people loosing jobs / also tackle shop workers .until situation with virus goes , they wouldn’t need as many fisheries officers also . I don’t like seeing anyone loose there job , no matter who they are . Do we need to fish ? No . To me it’s a great food source and relaxing away from everyone. It’s about using your brains
Yeah, but it seems that many cant.
I'm sitting in a 14 day quarantine, cant see my own kids or family 'cos some grubby CU in the NT couldn't follow the rules and maintain basic hygiene. The whole "Ill be OK" thing is a myth.....
Prove what?
That I'm in QT..... I'm pretty sure of that.
I'm here cos of a grubby CNT...That's a certainty.
That the "Ill be Ok" thing is a myth?....have you seen the numbers??? ;-)
You kept the fact that you have been tested as a suspected carrier how did you get results so quickly compared to others I call you the grubby Cu in the nt, nobody else here has it grubby.
I beg your fuc%^g pardon??
Where the f%*k did I say I have been tested as a suspected carrier?
I said Im in Quarantine because of another Grubby CNT......
Heap of retired people today while sitting in car at ramp . ( husband and wife) I gather ,going for there usual herring . Try tell them you can’t go fishing . Prob all they have done in there retirement years. Water / supermarket . No brainer.
Most who have lost jobs and now on gov payments have a lot more time to go fishing. This is probably why the ramps have never been so busy. Ramp Car parks basically overflowing everyday now
Kids not good at all .would really piss me off to . I am sorry this has happened to you. I can tell they mean world to you. Not anyone’s fault on this site .
uncle
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very full at
hillarys.
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
little johnny
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Won’t be for long
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meglodon
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Once they start to hand out fines
That will make for very expensive fishing trips.
Fishing as much as we all love doing it is not on the list of required outings and is not encouraged, or condoned.
Skull
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Exercise is
Exercise is allowed as long as social distancing is maintained and 2 people can walk together
That is physical excercise I suppose
Well what about mental exercise which is also good for your well being and health
Fishing to me is simply being able to get away from it all, not listen to the bombardment of what I should or shouldn't be doing,
and refresh, it is my form of exercise.
Please don't tell me I am wrong for this post, I can and do everything without coming into contact with anything or anyone, I am a firm believer in hygiene and follow all the rules, so far fishing with 2 people from the same household maintaining social distancing practices is not illegal.
Skull
Subaquatic
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Brock O
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Two rocks was busy
Two rocks was busy yesty....most solo like myself.
100% Skull
Subaquatic
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You are all still Missing the
You are all still Missing the point. It’s not about you.
It’s all the people you will effect if you have an unfortunate incident. Stay at home for a few weeks and let our services concentrate on the things that matter more. It’s not a big ask really.
Zac 1987
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just do the right thing and
just do the right thing and dont go fishing for a month or so. its not that hard.
Skull
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It;s not about me?
No I am not missing the point, I fully understand it all
Why cant't everyone see there are more issues with going to the shops than going fishing
More issues with getting food and other goods delivered
You can say that going fishing is not classified as essentila travel, what about those on here you openly stated they drove past the boat ramps, was that essential or were they just curious to see if others had gone out? the latter I suggest,
One of our readers stated he drove from Karratha to the Port of Dampier and back to see how many boats were out, not sure if that was essential travel?
Until such time as the Governement categorically states that the beaches are closed and the ramps are closed then those that feel they can safely go fishing should be able to without fear of being called out for doing something wrong when in fact currently it isn't.
However if the Government feels it needs to close down recreational fishing then it also needs to stop people from exercising outside of their property.
As I said earlier, fishing for me is my way of exercising and I am sure there are others on here who feel the same.
Exercise is not only physical but mental as well.
Skull
Subaquatic
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Not so sure....
Why cant't everyone see there are more issues with going to the shops than going fishing
Agreed, and when going to the shops, you need to exercise extreme care
More issues with getting food and other goods delivered
Food is essential, fishing is not
You can say that going fishing is not classified as essentila travel, what about those on here you openly stated they drove past the boat ramps, was that essential or were they just curious to see if others had gone out? the latter I suggest,
correct, its not essential, and should be avoided
One of our readers stated he drove from Karratha to the Port of Dampier and back to see how many boats were out, not sure if that was essential travel?
again, should not have been done
Two wrongs don't make a right
Skull
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Lets try again
Fish are food, so going fishing as you have agreed is safer than going to the shops so far no problem as totally legal.
Still allowed to exerecise which you have failed to comment on, fishing if exercise and good for your mental health.
Anyway have had enough of this as one will only believe and see what one wants.
Skull
Subaquatic
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If everyone was as
If everyone was as disciplined as you, we wouldn't have an issue. Problem is, you are the exception, and too many idiots are ruining it for everyone else.
Reality is, the way WA is acting, it wont be a choice for much longer, and you wont be fishing anywhere anytime soon...legally.
Faulkner Family
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it was me that went for a
it was me that went for a drive , are you to know what i went down to dampier for , concidering i was in the work truck .
however , i do believe fishing is a form of exercise, for the body and the mind. there is enough going on at the moment to stress a lot of people out weather they will be working for much longer or woried about family and friends everyone needs some sort of outlet for the stress.
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
Skull
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Yes Russ
Yes Russ, I know it was you that went from Karratha to Dampier and back
Mate just trying to get a point across when lots of people are saying going fishing isn't essential and yet they are driving past ramps.
Certainly nothing personal intended as I know your work takes you to various parts of the state.
Skull
Faulkner Family
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comment wasnt aimed your
comment wasnt aimed your way, it was the comments in bold
all good. prob is too many people jump to conclusions and rubbish someone just for making a comment.
been on here for many years and seen it all .
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
Subaquatic
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Russ, the OP said "One of our
Russ, the OP said "One of our readers stated he drove from Karratha to the Port of Dampier and back to see how many boats were out"
He didn't say you were working....My comments were based on what was posted.
dodgy
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I didn't go just to see how
I didn't go just to see how many boats were out. I went to add mine to that number.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Subaquatic
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Well done!
Well done!
Saulty2
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be carefull what u wish for
my experience is wake up have breakfast do chores then watch rivetting TV then lunch followed by tv then afternoon tea then watch tv then have dinner shower then tv yhippeee how very inspiring to go to shops maybe one a week to get basic essentials which mostly are not there
then go to bed wake up at 6am same process for the past 12 days .... oh sorry forgot come on fish wrecked to see who posted what only to be lectured
{fishing not essential stay at home bring on total ban } but praise for others catch posts.
understand those who have a job want to be safe and dont want people anywhere around ,also understand the civic duty driving to ramps and reporting of number of people that has gone fishing / car park full .
think the gov. has it right now not more than 2 people to congregate , any flouting needs to be dealt with stiff penalties.
there used to be a time when common sense prevailed , now we have a voice and insult others that dont think likewise ,other excuse is , receiving mixed messages its gov. fault.
yes europe is a basket case , no outrage where this virus started ? this is a fishing web site !
NORUN NOFUN
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And a thread started started
And a thread started started about the corona virus, if you don't like it don't comment, pretty fukn simple.
FFS, stay home
The sooner we all do the sooner we get back to our normal lives.
Give it another week and it will be banned anyway, so that should take care of those that have "common sense".
meglodon
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I feel very sorry for those
It is a tragedy for those fishos planning to travel north for their annual Easter fishing holiday, can only guess at the amount of planning and saving that has gone into their annual Easter break. If I've got the message straight after Wednesday night you will only be able to travel in your own home zone.
Keep your chin up people this virus thing has to end some time.
D_d_001
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Fucking first world problems
Sorry mate but what is a tragedy is that we now have over 3000 people a day dying.
People have lost their jobs, their businesses and in many cases life savings have been obliterated.
my Easter plans are out the window and I don't give a F@#& about that. Im much more worried about all the staff I had to lay off and the business I am now breaking down and selling off assets from so I can afford to live.
Easter holidays (and fishing) mean nothing in all of this.
Brock O
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Mate...we are in WA. Yes I
Mate...we are in WA.
Yes I lack empathy....self control and common sense but we have had 2 deaths at this stage.
I honestly believe we are on the up all ready with our current guidelines in place, the best one being the locking up of travellers returning, by weeks end its hard to see the infected number rising, but thats my uneducated opinion.
I hope you and the other business owners on here can get through this and get everything back up and running better than before.
D_d_001
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Maybe thats a big
Maybe thats a big difference.
One of my best friends lives in Portland Oregon (went to school with and grew up with .) He is a band promoter and doing it tough at the moment . The people me and my family spent christmas with (and have travelled with pretty extensively with) live in Ronco Scrivia northen Italy. they are locked in and know people who have not been fortunate. Also some of my family lives on the ACT.
I have travelled a lot and the world is a small place and when a death occurrs overseas (or out of state) people should still care.
Estimates have this shit peaking sometime late may or early June
Brock O
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My 17 yr old daughter is
My 17 yr old daughter is stuck in France... was due home in July but thinking it won't be till to Christmas the way there going.
Not sure how they figure them numbers...we are not like the other countries.
little johnny
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My Luke stuck in derby
Don’t think he will be home anytime soon.
telferfish
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I think everything is
I think everything is changing to much for our government to think. A direct and clear stance is what is required and it will save plenty of opinion debates media wide. the information the public recieves is critical to making decisions on how they should act be it risk based or not, the wishy washy approach is no longer cutting it.
for example goverment health advise thursday last week it was perfectly safe to take your kids to school, safe to go work, safe to go to the shops, safe to go outside, basicly buisness as usual providing you followed the clear social distancing guidelines and were not required to be in isolation or feeling unwell yourself. fast forward to the end of the weekend and thats considered sacralige.
That being said friday morning I packed the boat up and took my 2 kids out camping, sleeping on the boat out for the weekend by ourselves in the outdoors. Only to come home articulated as sort of red neck criminal. I will confess I am no self proclaimed medical expert like plenty others nor can I read into the future.For myself I beleive to have a little common sense, good morals, considerate of others and ethics common to anyone who grew up on a farm and learnt the respectfull way to hunt and fish.
judging others is not going to save our health we should be keeping a look out for each other, being supportive in the times of need to come.
uncle
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hope the goverment
is on their toes, going to be some rorting going on now.
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Jackfrost80
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Wait till they shut down the
Wait till they shut down the bottleos.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Fathom
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Not essential?
Everyone has a different situation they are in. In my case I have an auto-immune disease slowly killing me and if I get this Covid 19 I'm finished ...apparently. I'm on a strict diet of only certain foods, cant eat red meat anymore so only fish and chicken is on my menu. I live in a small coastal town with a population of about 1800 and we have 1 supermarket (IGA) that has been stripped, when the delivery truck arrives (last 1 only had 30% of the order) the cops have to be called in to try and keep the peace whilst the hoarders just ransack the joint. Now buying chicken for protein is OK but my local IGA is well known for selling shit that goes off real quick and that's very dangerous. I got lucky a few days ago out wide fishing and my freezer is looking OK for now, I got 9 ducks which give me lots of eggs and the chance of one or two ending up in the oven, got the vegie patch going strong even though every single seed to plant now is not available, sold out. SO...It might not be essential to go fishing right now, but it soon could be.
Fathom
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Side note:
If billions are killed, could be a good thing for the survivers, we are killing this joint with over population
SeperateKnob
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Date Joined: 28/11/16
I live local and I cycled
I live local and I cycled past the boat ramps 13km round trip. I cycle for exercise. People jumping to conclusions again.....
Brock O
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Date Joined: 11/01/08
Recon April and May will
Recon April and May will produce the best weather we have seen in a decade...fuel will be under a $1 a litre...and there's not a thing we can do about it.
Fuck China!
sea-kem
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Date Joined: 30/11/09
Love the West!
Ant1derooster
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Date Joined: 13/09/16
Fish stocks will
Fish stocks will recover.
Once this is all over the local fishing will be mint and the more remote spots will be even better.
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Fish are always there
had to go to shop for milk in and out. People worried about fishing with 1 person or themselves . Really . F&$k me I will go without milk from now on . Shops are a massive breeding ground . Hundreds of people . Lives on plastic for up to 3 days ( according to news) Don’t gather in groups keep distance and wash hands . I didn’t see to much of that . Not one person in shops with gloves on . I have 2 daughters looking after people/ 1 son in England in lock down . Fishing last thing on my mind . But if someone wanted to go out ,I wouldn’t rip shit out of them. Understand everyone’s views . Totally . But really . If you go out don’t post otherwise you will be shot by the sounds .
420casts
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Date Joined: 25/03/13
I went out last thursday.
I went out last thursday. Was out of the house for an hour and had no bait, so instead of risking it i had some fun and used only household shit as bait. I was done and dusted with 9 herring in the bag caught with a hand line, can of tuna for burley and a 1/2 round block of dutch smoked cheese. Was alone at the spot and went straight home from shore to door. Probably wont bother again, not worth the judgement from my neighbours who jog together and cough and splutter all over me trying to catch their breath and chew my ear off at the mailbox every day.
My YouTube channel, Fishing Rigs & How To's and more:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr9kJWJYyoaOkHRDu1pxszg
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Swompa
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Date Joined: 14/10/12
Well this thread turned to
Well this thread turned to shit.
Skull
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Date Joined: 03/01/12
Agree
Agree the thread has run its race.
Been interesting though.
Skull
Pete F
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Date Joined: 07/01/18
One of the Admins on a FB
One of the Admins on a FB page wrote to McGowan directly about the matter this was the reply.
Cheers
tot
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Date Joined: 31/01/10
Can not argue with that
And citizens should listen, respect and adhere.
Second last line says it loud and clear.
Reverse cycle a/c supply and install - Ducted and wall splits
Skull
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Date Joined: 03/01/12
This is what was
This is what was said by Recfish and the Premier and it is specifically aimed at travel within regions.
In order to do our part in preventing the spread and to save lives, fishers need to:
Yesterday, the WA Premier Mark McGowan announced laws are being drafted to restrict non-essential travel between regions to protect regional WA.
“Please stop your holidays, stay home – just do your essential stuff,” said the Premier at his press conference.
This will be a great disappointment to many who were looking forward to their fishing trips or holiday plans to regional WA for Easter. It also means we have had to postpone our Albany Salmon Spectacular 2020 event due to take place over the Easter Holidays. We will focus our efforts on making it a salmon fishing bonanza next year that the region deserves.
It is essential for everyone to put the health of our community, especially those most vulnerable, first. We each have to do our part as West Aussies to get through to the other side – when recfishing will have a huge part to play in the social, well-being and economic recovery of this great State of ours.
Please stay safe, look after your loved ones and play your part.
To date I have not heard Recfish or the Premier say you cannot fish locally.
Skull
Red Dog
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Date Joined: 13/12/12
So with the new laws coming
So with the new laws coming into place in WA from midnight last night this is not really a grey area now?
Still saw boats heading out from Bent St this morning (Wednesday)
sea-kem
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Date Joined: 30/11/09
There's nothing illegal
There's nothing illegal about that so I can't see your point? The point is though even if we have a right to do it, is it the right thing to do.
Love the West!
Skull
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Date Joined: 03/01/12
Good Question
Good Question Andy
One of the reasons I am pushing hard and some would think pushing back on this is
I want complete clarity and to date no one has that,
The Premier can use terms like urge etc, but until such time as he states you cannot go fishing Locally, fishers will be uncertain.
The Premier has stated that unfortunately you need to cancel holiday plans and fishing in regions other than where you live, but has not to date stopped fishing in your local region.
With the social distancing laws and some people believeing you can and some believing you can't fish, it is a nightmare.
If we are confused how must the Police be? someone may get fined for failing to follow rules which aren't clear to all,
How hard would it be to simply make a statement around this like what was done in Queensland yesterday?
They are still able to go fishing because the Minister said so in his statement,
If our Minister states we can or can't and beaches, ramps and fishing along with surfing etc is either allowed or stopped then so be it.
However the real problem here is the term exercise aand all of what I mentioned above are a form of just that.
Some people walk their dogs and say they are exercising, are they really? or simply taking the dog so it doesn't shit in their yard.
To be honest the more you try to understand it and don't break any laws the harder it gets.
Skull
Red Dog
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Date Joined: 13/12/12
My point was to try and
My point was to try and clarify the legal defintion so if someone has a go at me I know where I stand.
Who am I to judge other people's actions if they're not breaking the law?
I won't be going to Bent St that's for sure - good luck walking down that jetty and staying 1.5 meters away from someone.
But I can launch from the beach without interacting with anyone, go 100m offshore (no real pressure on rescue services) catch a meal of squid and herring and provide another meal for my family - got enough fuel in my boat to do that for weeks without having to go to a servo.
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Just come from there s/bay
Ramp full no parking left , they where parking up on pavers ,ranger will have fun today.
Red Dog
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Date Joined: 13/12/12
Hmm, maybe still a little
Hmm, maybe still a little grey...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-01/coronavirus-forces-leisure-boats-out-of-the-water/12107568
"New Federal Government restrictions for coronavirus implemented on Sunday night mean recreational boating and fishing for leisure is no longer permitted."
However key points suggest:
"Boating or fishing for "essential purposes" is allowed, such as travelling to work, buying supplies, or providing for families"
Sooo fishing for 'leisure', no.
Fishing for 'providing for families', yes.
Anybody else got any lawful definitions (moral considerations aside)?
Skull
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Date Joined: 03/01/12
And we thought
And we thought this thread was dead.
Skull
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
One out Monday
Not allowed out in boat with neighbour/mate . Has to be someone you live with. Still have to keep distance ( 2 people). No interaction with other fishos down ramp. ( putting in /out) Has to be in your local area. Must go straight home . Prob better off staying at home.
Skull
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Date Joined: 03/01/12
Am in Contact
I am in contact with the Fisheries Minister and hopefully will have a definitive answer today one way or the other
To date both recfish and Fisheries WA are saying if you follow social distancing etc etc etc it is okay
Today I will get the answer (hopefully) from the Minister and will post his response for all so everyone is clear.
Skull
Brock O
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Date Joined: 11/01/08
Cheers SKull...already told
Cheers SKull...already told me daughter we are going squiding on the weekend. weather is looking mint and after being locked in the house all week I'm ready to start smashing shit!
Small bit i read...."should"...is different than the terms "Shall"...and as another stated if they wanted it locked down then the ramps would be barricaded with warning signs.
Anybody want to state...just stay at home...Can Go and Get Fucked!!
Subaquatic
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Date Joined: 23/04/11
Its not us you are going to
Its not us you are going to have to tell to get fucked soon...
http://fishwrecked.com/image/getting-closer-end
Red Dog
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Date Joined: 13/12/12
April fools joke FFS
is this an April fools joke? Nothing on the website?
Jackfrost80
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Date Joined: 07/05/12
The key word there is
The key word there is 'should'... not 'must'
I am bunkering in besides work and shops because my mum is in the high risk category and I’d rather see her than go fishing before we are all locked in our houses. If we get word that lock down is happening though I reckon a final visit to the old lady and then a launch for some inshore fun with the kids may well be in order.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Woodsy65
Posts: 162
Date Joined: 21/05/15
I am led to believe that the
I am led to believe that the Fisheries Minister has not shut fishing down yet, however he is trying.
Tend to agree with you Brock O.
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Well I just seen 7 news
Down ramp . There trying to shut down all public ramps due to 2 m rule. But there allowing private ramps clubs ect to still operate
sunshine
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Date Joined: 03/03/09
Our golf club is permitting pairs from same house to olay
After seeking specific direction from the sports minister and that is as of this morning
sea-kem
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Date Joined: 30/11/09
We won't get a lockdown,
We won't get a lockdown, they've got a nice little herd immunity program going.
Love the West!
Brock O
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Date Joined: 11/01/08
Hope thats not true LJ Thats
Hope thats not true LJ
Thats a shame if it is...endless dickheads asking questions on FB...and so many do good phuks emailing and pushing for a closure because they have phuk all else to do....half these fuks never get out the house on a normal day.
These dicks need to have a look at the stats and the trend in WA...our population compared to the numbers, they know theirs no ripe wide spread infection in the community but there still pushing for full lock down even though it will put more people out of work and affect many more for no faster result.
BULLSHIT!!
Subaquatic
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Date Joined: 23/04/11
Faaark off..The reason we
Faaark off..The reason we have no wide spread infection is because MOST of us are being smart.
Hospitals , and emergency health care services have better things to do at the moment. Sit down, stop whining and deal with it FFS.
Brock O
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Date Joined: 11/01/08
And because the government is
And because the government is stopping it at the air port which it should have done earlier.
I'm dealing with it just fine...one drink at a time.
Curndog
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Date Joined: 21/11/16
No it’s not
No it’s not. It’s because we’re the most isolated capital city in the world. To compare - Wa have a population of 2.5 million, Italy has a population of 60 million, most of who are old and hug and kiss all the time. Italy can fit into WA four times!! 83% of our infected have come from cruise ships, over seas travel or in direct contact with any of these. Yes it’s a big deal and we need to protect ourselves, especially our elderly and front line workers but most of us will be fine. I can’t see the problem with going fishing if we keep our social distance at Boat Ramps. Yeah yeah yeah touching fuel handles, going bait shop etc tug tug just wash hands and get on with life. I’m more worried about wa and Australian jobs than I am coronavirus
Curndog
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Date Joined: 21/11/16
No it’s not
No it’s not. It’s because we’re the most isolated capital city in the world. To compare - Wa have a population of 2.5 million, Italy has a population of 60 million, most of who are old and hug and kiss all the time. Italy can fit into WA four times!! 83% of our infected have come from cruise ships, over seas travel or in direct contact with any of these. Yes it’s a big deal and we need to protect ourselves, especially our elderly and front line workers but most of us will be fine. I can’t see the problem with going fishing if we keep our social distance at Boat Ramps. Yeah yeah yeah touching fuel handles, going bait shop etc tug tug just wash hands and get on with life. I’m more worried about wa and Australian jobs than I am coronavirus
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Actually Fiona hospital
Very quite atm , my daughter can’t believe it . She thinks it’s how it should be all the time.. now that’s a fact not fiction. Police doing all the hard work in my books.
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Taking the piss :)
But honestly , seen public ramp 3 boats either side, all way to close . Just asking for it . No common sense show at all . Watched few boats at local club . All kept way apart , using there brains . If they do shut down boating , it may mean more people loosing jobs / also tackle shop workers .until situation with virus goes , they wouldn’t need as many fisheries officers also . I don’t like seeing anyone loose there job , no matter who they are . Do we need to fish ? No . To me it’s a great food source and relaxing away from everyone. It’s about using your brains
Subaquatic
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Date Joined: 23/04/11
"It’s about using your
"It’s about using your brains"
Yeah, but it seems that many cant.
I'm sitting in a 14 day quarantine, cant see my own kids or family 'cos some grubby CU in the NT couldn't follow the rules and maintain basic hygiene. The whole "Ill be OK" thing is a myth.....
still trying
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Date Joined: 27/06/17
Can you prove that? Sorry,
Can you prove that? Sorry, have a go at me if you like.
rather be fishing
Subaquatic
Posts: 515
Date Joined: 23/04/11
Prove what? That I'm in
Prove what?
That I'm in QT..... I'm pretty sure of that.
I'm here cos of a grubby CNT...That's a certainty.
That the "Ill be Ok" thing is a myth?....have you seen the numbers??? ;-)
still trying
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Date Joined: 27/06/17
You kept the fact that you
You kept the fact that you have been tested as a suspected carrier how did you get results so quickly compared to others I call you the grubby Cu in the nt, nobody else here has it grubby.
rather be fishing
Subaquatic
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Date Joined: 23/04/11
I beg your fuc%^g
I beg your fuc%^g pardon??
Where the f%*k did I say I have been tested as a suspected carrier?
I said Im in Quarantine because of another Grubby CNT......
Jackfrost80
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Date Joined: 07/05/12
It's still safer to catch a
It's still safer to catch a few kgs of fish than buy a few kgs of meat from the supermarket.
By the way it's a 'parking fee' they charge at Ocean Reef Marina not a 'launching fee'
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Subaquatic
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Date Joined: 23/04/11
Hahaha.....Credit for your
Hahaha.....Credit for your memory....;-)
Jim
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Qld obviously have fisherman
Qld obviously have fisherman in the ranks! WA would just chuck it in the too hard basket and ban all boating.
Bend over
Deleted
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Date Joined: 26/04/14
just took my son for a walk
just took my son for a walk and kick of the footy, ive never seen the park so busy.
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Sad thing is seen
Heap of retired people today while sitting in car at ramp . ( husband and wife) I gather ,going for there usual herring . Try tell them you can’t go fishing . Prob all they have done in there retirement years. Water / supermarket . No brainer.
Subaquatic
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Date Joined: 23/04/11
Yea, horrific for many.
Yea, horrific for many.
SeperateKnob
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Date Joined: 28/11/16
Most who have lost jobs and
Most who have lost jobs and now on gov payments have a lot more time to go fishing. This is probably why the ramps have never been so busy. Ramp Car parks basically overflowing everyday now
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Being separated from your
Kids not good at all .would really piss me off to . I am sorry this has happened to you. I can tell they mean world to you. Not anyone’s fault on this site .
Simo_
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Date Joined: 13/11/06
It’s a sad day, Fishwrecked
It’s a sad day, Fishwrecked has turned into Flogwrecked.
Bring on April
Brock O
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Date Joined: 11/01/08
Lol...ha you started this
Lol...ha you started this thread Simo...now ya calling us flogs for keeping it going...bloody good thread this one!
Simo_
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Date Joined: 13/11/06
I tried to shut it down
I tried to shut it down multiple times lol
Bring on April
Jackfrost80
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Date Joined: 07/05/12
It's like the demersal ban on
It's like the demersal ban on steroids
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Adam Gallash
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Opinion
Everyones entitled to opinions, most divisive subject on the planet at the moment. Stop reading it, if you dont like it.
Site Admin - Just ask if you need assistance
Jackfrost80
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... and that was mine. Don't
... and that was mine. Don't read it, if you don't like it.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
uncle
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Date Joined: 10/02/07
kung flu
back for second round in Chinatown according to C7
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Guy who started it
Keeps bagging site . But keeps coming back ? Got me f@$ked .
sea-kem
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Date Joined: 30/11/09
I'm lost, it says Adam
I'm lost, it says Adam Gallash started this thread? Or did something happen, I'm scratching my head.
Love the West!
Deleted
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simo started thread adam
simo started thread adam took it over as simo cracked the shits
sea-kem
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Ohhhh ha ha but do agree
Ohhhh ha ha but do agree it's an emotive subject and we all need somewhere to vent.
Love the West!