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here we go.now this debate

Wed, 2020-05-06 09:14

here we go.

now this debate has been brought up reckon we will definitely hit 6 pages.

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 awesome :)

Wed, 2020-05-06 12:04

 awesome :)

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It’s risk versus reward. I

Wed, 2020-05-06 10:10

It’s risk versus reward. I heard on the news one company was quite excited about a efficacy rate of 40% but didn’t mention possible side effects  

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 Popcorn popping now

Wed, 2020-05-06 10:19

 Popcorn popping now

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Should we start on 5G now we

Wed, 2020-05-06 10:30

Should we start on 5G now we have an anti-vaxxer?

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Bill Gates Event201

Wed, 2020-05-06 11:10

How many are even aware that Bill Gates organised (with WHO) a special invite only event (Event201) in October 2019 to simulate a global pandemic of a Coronavirus in which they predicted 63million deaths in 18months.

The same man who is pushing the vaccination solution and being used by the media to do so.

Do your own research.

(BTW, last year in 2019 we had our highest Flu vaccine uptake ever ... and our highest cases of Influenza ... over 300,000 cases).

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 yeah apparently last year

Wed, 2020-05-06 12:38

 yeah apparently last year was a really bad flu season and lots of people died. I can't recall hearing anything about it, maybe media didnt run storys about it every 5 mins.

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Goats and Paw paws

Wed, 2020-05-06 11:37

The Tanzanian president John Magufuli had his security staff test the quality of recently aquired Coronavirus test kits. They took samples from some animals and fruits and gave the samples fake names and ages and sent them in to their Covid-19 testing laboratory. The Goat, quail and Paw Paw samples came back positive for Covid-19.

(He holds a doctorate in Chemistry and doubted the quality of the tests and the results coming back from their National lab).

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This same John Mugufuli?"In

Wed, 2020-05-06 17:01

This same John Mugufuli?

"In October 2016, the Tanzanian government banned HIV/AIDS outreach projects and closed US-funded programs that provide HIV testing, condoms and medical care to the gay community. The countrywide closure of private HIV clinics began soon afterward."

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think that last line of your

Wed, 2020-05-06 11:51

think that last line of your comment about the flu vacc is not really indicative of anything.

maybe we had the highest number of vaccines because they were pushed harder because it was predicted to be a bad year so cases were always going to be high?

maybe reflective of general increase in population?

maybe higher portion of people enetering at risk age group.

lots of variables, dont think it is at all an indicator about the effectiveness or usefullness of the vaccine.

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Maybe not to you

Wed, 2020-05-06 11:54

I'm sure some people would look at that line and understand that having a vaccine is no guarentee of success when fighting a disease.

That was what I hoped people would take out of it, given my initial posts were trying to make the point of not believing the media and their push for a vaccine as the saving grace.

Again, I believe in the science of vaccinations. I also believe they are most often effective at reducing your chance of contracting a disease ... sadly, and often, the risks of taking the vaccine are greater than the risk of the disease.

For me, it just comes down to simple maths. The probability of harm from the disease vs the probability of harm from the vaccine.

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 We did it well done!!

Wed, 2020-05-06 12:05

 We did it well done!! welcome to page 6 :)

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 And i feel dumber for

Thu, 2020-05-07 05:50

 And i feel dumber for reading it!

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I hear most Flue vaccines are

Wed, 2020-05-06 12:49

I hear most Flue vaccines are for the previous years strain in any case...as for risk taking vs not taking, I'm sure this risk assessment has already been completed otherwise they wouldn't be pushing the population to take them.

My ciro is against even Panadol….Stating healthy eating and exercise (Vit D) solves most of life's health issues.

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Chiro? We’re going to crack 7

Wed, 2020-05-06 13:28

Chiro? We’re going to crack 7 pages in no time. I can smell the butter flavor heading towards the microwave now

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 how good is butter, I love

Wed, 2020-05-06 13:35

 how good is butter, I love it

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Chiropractor...dribble I

Wed, 2020-05-06 14:37

Chiropractor...dribble I know, lots of people don't believe in most Vaccines / flue vaccines anyway.

My deckie said he didn't bother with the flue vaccine last year, caught something...said he thought he was going to die...3 days in bed couldn't move.

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 sounds like man flu lol

Wed, 2020-05-06 14:42

 sounds like man flu lol

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 what about global warming?

Wed, 2020-05-06 13:36

 what about global warming?

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 That's for another 7 pages 

Wed, 2020-05-06 13:44

 That's for another 7 pages 

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Antivaxers conducting

Wed, 2020-05-06 16:43

Antivaxers conducting breakthrough research

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you sure that’s not you being

Wed, 2020-05-06 18:29

you sure that’s not you being a flog on Fishwrecked? Lol 

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I'd need more than a phone to

Wed, 2020-05-06 22:08

I'd need more than a phone to achieve your 6 page Corona fishing masterpiece 

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1st time in my life

Wed, 2020-05-06 17:56

I had flu jab .3 days ago .see how it goes

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I’ve never had flu jab,

Wed, 2020-05-06 18:27

I’ve never had flu jab, reckon it’s a load of shit. It’s not going to stop covid. That’s my opinion, don’t care if you don’t like it. 

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Same I’ve had other vaccines

Wed, 2020-05-06 18:46

Same I’ve had other vaccines but not the flu one. Got to man up to man flu 

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Yep agreed, I had the flu

Thu, 2020-05-07 18:23

Yep agreed, I had the flu shot a number of years ago through work and had never been so sick with flu in my life, total load of shit I reckon. Back to normal since then, maybe get a cold every other year but nothing like after that bloody shot.

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 You do realise what they

Thu, 2020-05-07 19:29

 You do realise what they give you has no active virus? You can't get sick from it. 

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One Year

Thu, 2020-05-07 19:36

I've only had the flu shot once, later that winter I got the sickest I've ever been.

Haven't bothered since.

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 So must've been something

Thu, 2020-05-07 19:54

 So must've been something else apart from the flu.I've literally been having my shots for over 5 years and been good as gold. 

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Yeah possibly, I'd never been

Thu, 2020-05-07 20:04

Yeah possibly, I'd never been so crook and haven't been since so I'm not really sure what the go was.

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 There was a comment about

Thu, 2020-05-07 06:00

 There was a comment about last years Flu season and it not being publicised. As a parent with a child who always seemed to get sick (and subsuqiently febrile seizures), we were very much aware of it. Here is some data from what i consider a factual news source.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/early-outbreaks-to-blame-for-worst-flu-season-on-record/11949320

I think there were 4 influenza cases in WA in April 2020 as opposed to 500 odd last year. People died last year, hopefully no one dies from an avoidable virus this year. 

The social distancing that the smart people are telling us to do and the smarter people are doing severely reduces the strain on the health system. 

The 'problem' with the major shut down was that people would not see the impact of the virus and not believe it next time, if it happens again in our life time. If it works - you will wonder why we did it.

Thankfully for us, it looks as if it worked as of right at this moment. 

We are flu vaccinated as doctors (i mean accredited medical doctors who treat patients, not the fake ones) say it is a good idea. Yeah the likelyhood of getting sick are slim though i dont want to be a burdeon on the health system. 94.7% of people have no adverse event from the flu vaccination. 

 

 

 

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 I'm amazed at the amount of

Thu, 2020-05-07 06:59

 I'm amazed at the amount of people who just pass the flu off as just a 'normal flu' and too manly to get a jab. I had the flu two years in a row, first one had me laid up in bed for 4 days unable to do fuckall with major fever, chills and body aches.

The second one I'll never forget as it started with without a doubt the worst headache I've ever had in my life that lasted a whole day, it had me spewing up from the absolute pain of it and then the ensuing sickness that took probably 2 weeks to get over. I've had the jab ever since and thankfully no flu, like I mentioned I have family history of being susceptable to chest infections.

From what I'm hearing and reading about Corona it's a roll of the dice, mild symptoms or incredible sickness and in cases death. It really does piss me off that people play down the development of vaccines as bunkum, they need to be reminded that there are vulnerable people and babies that can't be vaccinated and that they pose a risk to those people. And it's the general population that covers their sorry arse for not getting one.

And I will aknoweledge that there have been fuck ups with vaccines, but where haven't there been fuck ups with anything in this modern world. 

Those on here saying they don't get a flu jab tell me you won't line up for a Corona jab when and if a vaccine is developed?

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I was laid up for 3 days last

Thu, 2020-05-07 08:02

I was laid up for 3 days last year with the flu with severe headaches, spinal pain and fever last year and had to fight off the Mrs from calling Dad to take me to ER.  First time in 10 years not getting a shot.

One the the senior members of an advisory group I run sadly passed away due to flu complications last year. Told me he was too sick to attend a meeting one week and found out he'd passed away the next.

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Some more stats

Thu, 2020-05-07 10:02

In 2019, there were 912 confirmed deaths from Influenza in Australia. Our 5 year average prior to that was 403.
We also had 312,978 confirmed cases that presented for medical care. Our 5 year average was 113,819.
So Yes, 2019 was a very bad year for influenza in Australia.
(NB: you can find other stats that will say we had over 3,000 deaths to influenza in Australia in 2019. These are estimates with assumptions that there will be more cases than just those confirmed to be flu.)

Just a quick point on your 94.7% stat. In 2019 there was 12.5million doses of flu shot given to Australians. That equates to over 662,500 people had an adverse reaction in 2019 from the flu vaccine.

Once again, I believe in the possible effectiveness of vaccinations, but we need to understand the value of each particular one and get good data and use maths to become better informed.
Sadly, it is very difficult to find good data because of so many vested interests. eg. Dr Mark Geier and his son spent decades trying to get data from the CDC in the US. Their work was a big factor in having Thimerosol removed from our DTP vaccines making them much safer and with far fewer adverse reactions. (NB: please don't go about trying to dismiss Geier as a quack because of negative articles out there ... that is the invested groups trying to distract you from what Geier was finding out ... and in any case, Geier won a $2.5m lawsuit because of some of those negative attacks).

I think it is dangerous for people to become tribal in their beliefs and to be either an "anti vaxxer" or a "vaxxer" ... I am neither.

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But you're happy to take as

Thu, 2020-05-07 12:12

But you're happy to take as gospel information from a man who's track record on virus control was the banned HIV/AIDS outreach projects and closing US-funded programs that provide HIV testing, condoms and medical care to the gay community in Tanzania and the countrywide closure of private HIV clinics?

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Wikipedia is not your best friend

Thu, 2020-05-07 13:21

I knew nothing about the Tanzania President and nor did I care. I mentioned him as part of a funny story about COVID-19 tests of a paw paw coming back positive.

If you think attacking his character wins you any points in a discussion about vaccines, then you are not the sort of audience I am posting to.

BTW, I too read that Wikipedia page for the Tanzania President and saw all the good and noble things he did before getting to his prehistoric religous beliefs against the LGBTQ community ... and subsequently his stand on HIV/AIDS. But none of that has any influence on my understanding of Vaccine Effectiveness.

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 looks like a google battle

Thu, 2020-05-07 15:40

 looks like a google battle going on here lol

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Youy'll never win with an

Thu, 2020-05-07 16:08

Youy'll never win with an antivaxxer. They have an inate abilty to head deep down the rabbit hole and produce an important looking 'study' in an important looking 'journal' that vindicates any conspiricy theory they have about vaccines, 5G, fluoride, chem trails, aliens, flat earth, new world order... did I miss any Kaiser? Harold Holt?

Edit: Oh yeah Bill Gates lol

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Jack Frost you are carrying

Thu, 2020-05-07 16:32

Jack Frost you are carrying on like a flog. Just let people have their own opinions. It’s a free world hahaha  

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agreed. i have learned best

Thu, 2020-05-07 16:39

agreed. i have learned best not to engage as all it does is get your blood pressure up, and you can never get anywhere lol.

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you're not wrong there

Thu, 2020-05-07 16:59

you're not wrong there

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I had the jab last year after

Thu, 2020-05-07 06:59

I had the jab last year after the push...But figured it wouldn't hurt when I'm shoulder to shoulder on a packed trained 2-3 days a week.

Anyone who uses the trains during peak periods to commute might agree...

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lets change the subject, what

Thu, 2020-05-07 07:44

lets change the subject, what about religion?

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Fishing is a religion so

Thu, 2020-05-07 07:49

Fishing is a religion so you're at the right place.

 

 

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Simo your comments are not

Thu, 2020-05-07 07:57

Simo your comments are not contributing...there getting you closer to P7 but really this could be disputed..like a few Eagle flags.

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 Or the validity of the

Thu, 2020-05-07 08:06

 Or the validity of the Dockers as a true AFL team 

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 Everyone questions that Andy

Thu, 2020-05-07 08:30

 Everyone questions that Andy even a lot of their supporters

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 we need to keep the dockers

Thu, 2020-05-07 08:56

 we need to keep the dockers in the AFL, they provide comedic relief lol

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Adam...can ya get this Thread

Thu, 2020-05-07 09:25

Adam...can ya get this Thread deleted Please....Baaahaaa.

I'd rather the Rona than support the Eagles !!

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 This is a good

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 Flu shot aint gonna do

Thu, 2020-05-07 12:01

 Flu shot aint gonna do nothing for covid, sees like a waste of time. NRL are clowns.

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You dont get it.

Thu, 2020-05-07 12:20

You dont get it. It is about ensuring that no unavoidable illnesses end up in whatever town the cavemen are going to base themselves in and clog up the hospitals. 

 

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 Zero cases again, 8 days

Thu, 2020-05-07 12:41

 Zero cases again, 8 days straight, no reported community transmition for over 3 weeks. WA kicking Covids ass. Looks like major announcement of restrictions being lifted will happen Sunday, according to the latest press conference.

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 Just read all your dribble

Thu, 2020-05-07 18:09

 Just read all your dribble Simo and you called me a peanut.............

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100% has to be ADD

Thu, 2020-05-07 18:37

100% has to be ADD

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Thank Jack 

Thu, 2020-05-07 20:28

Thank Jack 

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 Simo has probably got 1 page

Thu, 2020-05-07 19:39

 Simo has probably got 1 page filled by himself. 

 

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Should be at 7 pages soon.

Thu, 2020-05-07 20:25

Should be at 7 pages soon. Gonna make this the biggest thread ever. Good work everyone. 

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It won't

Fri, 2020-05-08 08:35

 It won't make 7 pages if you continue with the personal attacks. Take a chill pill, you will find this thread with several less posts as a result.

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And he said the Dockers were

Fri, 2020-05-08 11:29

And he said the Dockers were comical Adam....Punt him mate :)

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Brock O get back to me when

Fri, 2020-05-08 12:34

Brock O get back to me when you have donated to keep this site going 

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I'm on my second FishWrecked

Fri, 2020-05-08 13:42

I'm on my second FishWrecked shirt lol...:)

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 haha Wheres ya donation

Fri, 2020-05-08 13:45

 haha 

Wheres ya donation symbol? the little fish.

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Arrr....Ive only just noticed

Fri, 2020-05-08 14:10

Arrr....Ive only just noticed that, dont think a couple shirts gets one.

You a site sponsor or made / make contributions ?

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 Well said Brock O  Simo

Fri, 2020-05-08 14:29

 Well said Brock O  Simo thinks he is on facebook and has turned into a right royal flog these last 4 weeks.  Adam should do the site a favour and take him out.

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Ol' Simo thinks because he's

Fri, 2020-05-08 14:32

Ol' Simo thinks because he's a paying customer he can act in any self entitled way he likes. He's basically a male version of a 'Karen' and I'm surprised he isn't asking to "speak to the Manager".... oh wait, he has... didn't he start this thread and get Adam to take the hit when it all went pear shaped?

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 YEP

Fri, 2020-05-08 14:36

 YEP

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 LOL

Fri, 2020-05-08 15:20

 LOL

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 Triple hook up

Fri, 2020-05-08 15:22

 Triple hook up ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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 Good ground? Hot bite?

Fri, 2020-05-08 17:50

 Good ground? Hot bite?

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Soldier on ya balloonheads .

Thu, 2020-05-07 21:18

Soldier on ya balloonheads . Flu shots for the kindy kids.