Braid to leader knots
Submitted by Colin Hay on Thu, 2008-06-26 15:23
I know we have discussed this previously, but I was wondering if there are any updated thoughts.
What are people's preferred knots for tying braid to a mono or fluoro leader. I generally tie double unis (because their easy and with my old eyes that makes a big difference at night).
However, with really light braid and leaders, I have had one or two knots slip under heavy pressure.
Any suggestions?
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albright
i use albright or as you do back to back uni.i too am pretty lazy
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double uni
improved albrite is the go imo never once has it slipped
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Double unis
Same as you #1, lazy and old - so double Unis. Fortunately I haven't had one slip...yet!
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double uni
yep the old double uni is the way to go pretty simple and quick unless ure fishing with some seriously heavy gear then i would go to the improved albright but double uni should do the job for most fishing
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the improved albrite is no
the improved albrite is no good for the heavy stuff when casting though as it can SOMETIMES slip
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I use a bimini then to a gt
I use a bimini then to a gt knot, not once have i had it let go and it is very low profile. It takes longer to tie, but well worth it IMO.
I used to use a double uni, but it would sometimes ping at the leader knot meaning i would have to tie a whole new leader instead of just tying a new lure. Now i use the bimini - gt knot for everything from jigging to breamin'.
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I've also used the slim
I've also used the slim beauty but only in +30lb mono.
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Yep the Bimini/GT combo for
Yep the Bimini/GT combo for me too.
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Bimini/Gt combo sounds popular
Would they be a bit of overkill for line 10 kg and under?
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Never lost a good fish cos
Never lost a good fish cos my knots were too strong.
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That's true Daisy
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Colin, i use the bimini/gt
Colin, i use the bimini/gt for breaming and i use 6lb braid and 4,6,8lb leader and i have had no problems.
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Thanks Blake
Looks like I had better off my butt and have a go at them. Thanks all for your input.
Any further suggestions greatly received.
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Depends what situation it is
Depends what situation it is for me.
Lighter line I Do an improved albright, with heavier lines I double bimini and then cats paw
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first tie a double in the
first tie a double in the braid then an albright, no better knot as far as i'm concerned mate
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IMHO both the slim beauty
IMHO both the slim beauty and GT knots are are less prone to fatigue when continuously casting.
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bimini to a gt works well
bimini to a gt works well never had one slip.
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yep bimini to GT role knot
yep bimini to GT role knot for me.....only bad side is if you get snagged the knot won't break, so your main line will break hopefully close to the bottom.
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Slight thread jacking, but I
Slight thread jacking, but I put a plaited double into some 30lb mono the other day. Now I just need to pick a double for the braid to attach it =)
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Good question till
I am sure someone will have the right answer.
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Till try bimini to a cats
Till try bimini to a cats paw? that work?
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I might try the bimni in the
I might try the bimni in the braid. I tried it in the mono and it was hideous, so thats what forced me to learn the aussie plait for the mono. Then I'll go the cats paw to join them together.
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o k
what do all these knots look like ? i double my braid then do some fancy knot with a few twists each way then pull it tight but it holds even with a 9 foot bronzy on the end.an anyone post a few pics so i know what knot im tying?
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Sounds like an improved albright Russ
I ahve just been tying a few myself and that sounds pretty similar to what I was doing. Have a look at this link Russ.
http://www.animatedknots.com
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PR knot
check out this link......this is probably the No 1 knot used by hard core jiggers.....when tied properly....it is 100%.
http://www.jigsdirect.com/eMerchantPro/pc/fishing_knots.asp#anchorPR
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Jiggers
I bet they are all jap jiggers
I know a few serious jiggers and they use GT' knots .
A lot easier to tie on a rolling deck too.
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not the Knot!
Sure, the guys that re-invented modern jigging(like Yoichi Mogi) use the PRknot......they also are on the cutting edge of research and development with most of the Japanese tackle used in jigging. Use whatever floats your boat and works for you. But I know when targeting big fish in unforgiving circumstances, any weakness in your tackle will be exposed and result in lost fish. Most of the gun jiggers in NZ are using the PR knot too......
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To upset you .
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All good Maverick......not
All good Maverick......not upset mate, just my opinion based on what I've seen and experienced. I've also lost half a spool of braid using the PR after getting bricked in 140M....with the mainline popping near the rod tip......
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Thanks sean
That's a great link and a serious knot.
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Pulled out my Wilson knot book last night
And tied a few Improved Albrights. Pretty impressed. Easy to tie, look and feel really strong and they have a nice low profile which will be good for casting.
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Make sure you pull the
Make sure you pull the albrights nice and tight, the mono can sometimes pull straight and it pulls the braid off (a bit hard to explain). If you lock it you should get less problems. Basically form a loop in the mono, wrap around fairly tightly where the two mono strands are parallel (i.e. leave a bit of a loop). Dont wrap around when the mono isnt touching, especially with fluoro. (I lost a few lures due to the knot slipping, so had to research a solution). I go 8 down, 6 back up, then to lock, wrap around one of the mono legs 3 times, then close the knot.
Nice and compact but I dont like the forward facing tag. You can trim it close, but if you dont pull your knot really tight it can slip (though some glue might be a good idea then?).
Lately I use a bimini to GT knot (the way honsu ties them). The mono knot is really just a stopper, its the braid cinching on the mono that is the main strength. Good thing about it is that it doesnt cut your braid loop, so you can change leaders without loosing main braid line length
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Thanks Matt
I will be practicing some knot tying over the weekend.
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Why use 100% knots? then
Why use 100% knots? then wont they just break somewhere alone the line and u lose a good 100m of line? dont u want it to be like 80% so it always breaks at the knot?
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Not really
You want the knot at the end of the leader to break so tie a 95% knot there like a uni knot , then you just have to tie a new swivel to the end not a whole new bimini and leader connection
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be adventuress colin and go
be adventuress colin and go the granny....... i meant the knot.....
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Lol Jes
Things aren't so bad yet that I will have to visit the Granny bars. I am not sure about tying a granny knot, any tips.
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im an expert at granny's
im an expert at granny's colin.... once again im talking knots..... hahaha
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yeh true my bad
yeh true my bad
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Ok so I have an aussie plait
Ok so I have an aussie plait double in both my mono and the braid, and they were catspaw spliced together. I'll see how that lasts next.
Bimni didn't really go togther nicely, wtb 4 hands. I don't have a bobbin, so the others are going to have to wait.
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The Aussie plaits a great
The Aussie plaits a great knot for doubling, I have a mate who ties them religiously, I've got the bimini down pat so it's what I stick to. As for tying 100% knots it's better to lose a bit of line than to pop one on the fish of a lifetime.
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