Ah stuff it - Round 22 to big so now 23
Submitted by crasny1 on Tue, 2015-09-01 12:39
Saturday, September 05 Sunday, September 06
Friday, September 04
RICH v NMFC
Richmond v North Melbourne
ES 7:50PMGEEL v ADEL
Geelong Cats v Adelaide Crows
SS 1:05PMBL v WB
Brisbane Lions v Western Bulldogs
G 1:45PMPORT v FRE
Port Adelaide v Fremantle
AO 3:20PMHAW v CARL
Hawthorn v Carlton
MCG 4:40PMSYD v GCFC
Sydney Swans v Gold Coast Suns
SCG 7:20PMWCE v STK
West Coast Eagles v St Kilda
DS 5:40PMMELB v GWS
Melbourne v GWS Giants
ES 1:10PMCOLL v ESS
Collingwood v Essendon
MCG 3:20PM____________________________________________________________________________
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Deckie
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Here goes for the
Here goes for the last...
Winners in capitols.
RICH v North. The talls will make a difference.
Geel v ADEL. Adelaide on a high.
Bl v WB. Bullies too fast.
PORT v Fre. Port even without Freo tanking.
HAW v Carl. Hawks on the march.
SYD v Gcfc. Close as long as they don't boo Goodes.
WCE v Stk. West Coast to bounce back big.
Melb v GWS. GWS to finish on a high.
COLL v ESS. Draw because I don't give a shit.....
Cheers & Stay safe
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WCE - But could they want to end up 4th to face Freo at Subi, or second to face the Hawks???
GWS - who cares realy!
Collingwood - cant believe I tip them but how bads Essendoping. Morale all gone.
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ok ,my thoughts on the last
ok ,my thoughts on the last for the normal season
RICH v North. agree .... but roos might surprise us here .
Geel v ADEL. agree but really 50/50 on this one also
bl v WB. doggies
PORT v freo , port would have got em anyway imo
HAW v Carl.should be a cake walk
SYD v Gcfc. cant stop the boos goodsey its you the person they dont like mate
WCE v Stk. , with our returns id expect a good solid win after last week .
Melb v GWS. nothing to see here
COLL v ess , pies with a good showing
wonder what loss cryon will say if the shockers dont win the flag with first top of the ladder finish & the resting this week of top players ??
he going to have get really inventive lol
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I wonder what Weagle
I wonder what Weagle supporters will say if the dockers do win ?? , your going to have to get really inventive lol ..
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mr raff probly not much to
mr raff
probly not much to be honest , as its about time you won one & got the monkey of your backs
they have a great opportunity in front of them if there good enough
so you will only have to wait till oct 3 at the latest to find out hey lol
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Richmond or north, a battle
Richmond or north, a battle of the inconsistents... tough call. Richmond in a close one
Adelaide. Geelong thinking about mad monday already.
Bullies
Port, but expect the young'uns to put up a competative showing.
Hawks sydney and west coast.
Gws and the pies
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If I was north I'd want to
If I was north I'd want to loose and play Richmond at the G instead of adelaide at home
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There is so many
scenarios going around. Good fun playing with AFL ladder predictor and see what strategies might come into effect. Teams that think other teams might be better/easier to play at certain venues etc.
As mentioned WCE might be better playing Freo in first final at Subi, than Hawks at subi. Still think hawks are the form team but they are beatable.
Depending on these potential scenarios and coaching strategies there might be some odd results come this weekend.
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Couldn't give a fat rats clacker about this weekend. Me and the team are resting for the finals.
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haha - ^ bucket loads
of cred right there
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That's a
phukin classic Chris!
best this year by far....lol
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Put the farm on it Paully
Put the farm on it Paully
Freo paying $7.25 head to head we'll smash em 
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I actually believe you will
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Lucky last round eh!
I think the Tigers over the Kangas in a close game
I reckon the Cats at home - the Crows will still be in la la land after their lucky win over the Eagles
The Doggies should get the job done up in QLD.
Power to smash Peel Thunder ha ha
Hawks have to be certainties.
Swans at home over the Suns who have disappointed their fans this year.
Eagles to get back in the winning groove and finish a great year in 2nd possie
GWS
The cold Pies to restore some gay pride so Joffa can get his handbag out again
Next week - it's on!
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Paully have you gone nuts
If you are going to throw your money away can you give it to me
Freo will not win that game full stop..why would they need or want to bust their arses for nothing with the finals just around the corner.
As a very smart pollie once said..please explain LOL
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Copying our tactics from the
Copying our tactics from the Adelaide game ;)
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Well - given the list of outs I saw 5 or 6
didnt think it was such a big deal , have now heard possibly anothet 4 - that changes things. It's not like the first 5/6 named were big outs
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Resting them in 2013
Didn't help. They forgot how to kick straight
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Dockers Team Selection Vs
Dockers Team Selection Vs Port
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I cant understand why you
I cant understand why you would rest all your best ???
If you have already conceded defeat by putting in a WAFL team, then why not run with the starting team but rotate them more often & treat it like the best training session you will ever get leading into the finals.
We all see how some teams are after the "waste of time" bye that we have to have.
I guess Ross the Toss knows best "again".
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Not that hard to work
Not that hard to work out Deckie .. so they’ll be prime for the real season the 1st QF the following week .. why travel and risk injury or suspension when you don’t have to .
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We all say the bye is a
We all say the bye is a waste of time, but most players i see interviewed say its grsat to have a week off and let the knocks and bruises heal. They'll still train and run, just without the crash and bash....
If all goes to plan, the next time they get on a plane will be in october. That could also be said of the eagles....
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off to see the other code thursday night
my grandson Azzie went to their kids event last night and won a players mascot position so he will go out with the soccer roos,he's as happy as Larry
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Well I guess the players coming in for the Shockers
will be trying hard to impress the hierarchy, so some of the Dorker players will be trying, while the regulars still making the trip to Adelaide will be making sure they don't get injured and the Port Adelaide fans will have somehing to cheer about when they win the game by a handsome margin (though the players may feel a bit hollow about it all).
I guess any team in the same situation would do the same thing, whether it's in the spirit of the game or not.
Whether it backfires in the qualifying final remains to be seen...............
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yeh gadsy agree any other
yeh gadsy agree any other team placed in the same position would probably run the same lay ups for key players and test a few fringe dwelllers out with a run
time will tell if it works in the frockers favour or not
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Reports are kennedy is to be
Reports are kennedy is to be rested? Thoughts on that?
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Interesting Randall
Not sure what the rationale is (if it is true) - maybe he has a bit of soreness?
He has got the Coleman medal pretty much sewn up I guess, so doesn't need to play to secure that award.
Simo has said that they need to win the game to ensure second spot, so you would assume a full strength team would be named, but they do have a few other good scoring options up forward besides Tennedy
Eagles might be taking a leaf out of Freo's book and resating some key players eh!
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Not overly good at maths ..
Not overly good at maths .. but I think North will rest players for sure that’ll stuff the crows getting a homie .
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Anywhere, anytime eh Riff Raff
Just have to go out there and give it all they've got against whoever they come up against and if they are good enough who knows how far they will go!
The Frockers on the other hand, have a huge weight of expectation on them - will they crack under the pressure??????????
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Now clear this up,
Now clear this up, please.
Some clown on 6pr (not karl) last night said that if there is a derby final (not the GF) at domain, then the crowd distribution will be 50 / 50. Surely not. Surely the home team supporters would get priority ticketing and the away team supporters pick up whats left???
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I don't think it works that
I don't think it works that way for finals games Randalls, I always thought after corporate distribution, it's first in best dressed?
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Can't remember why but this
Can't remember why but this was on TV few weeks back. There was a reason for it. We also brought it up in a thread as well
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Yep 50/50
strajght down the guts half dockers memebers half eagles they were saying there will barely be any general admission
i support two teams eagles and whoever is playing the dockers
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This almost happened some
This almost happened some years ago did it not? Eagles above Dockers nearly met in a final & a 50 / 50 split declared? Members cried foul if I remember correctly & Dockers fans calling it fair! Anyway for the record I agree, top seeded team should get priority ticketing
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Could get ugly ... AFL will
Could get ugly ... AFL will need riot police and extra ambulances on standby at the ground I’d suggest .. especially when those feral weagles start their booing shit
Showdown final/Derby final
In the event of a showdown final between Adelaide and Port Adelaide, or a derby final between Fremantle and West Coast, club members are advised to familiarise themselves with the on-sale information communicated by the Club and the AFL. Members are also encouraged to purchase online as there will be high demand and limited availability for these matches. Members of each club will purchase from a protected allocation of seats and while one club’s allocation may sell out quicker than the other, the split of the member allocation will be 50/50.
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[Could get ugly ... AFL will
[Could get ugly ... AFL will need riot police and extra ambulances on standby at the ground I’d suggest .. especially when those feral weagles start their booing shit ]
ahh your a funny bugger chris , gave me a laugh this above
i reckon if it happens the violet vermin fans will be the toey ones , pretty sure your mobs combined blood pressure will be pumping much higher, lol
eagles fans will only boo at your mob if your purple frocker mardi gra outfitts are really over the top distastefull or too revealling , its not polite in mixed company to show innocent eagles fans your hairy violet legs and anchor tatts etc
it would be the only decent thing we could do for you
oh & dont dress like goodsey either
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If it is a 50/50 split, then
If it is a 50/50 split, then that is wrong. Where's the home crowd advantage?
If i was a supporter of either team and entitled to a home final i would expect a home crowd. If my team was an 'away' team I'd accept I'll probably be watching it on tv....
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We didnt write the rules
we didnt write the rules im sure you will get over it
i support two teams eagles and whoever is playing the dockers
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Apparently the roos have
Apparently the roos have been given permission to rest 10 or 11 players for fridays game against richmond.....
Win that game and they probably play adelaide... lose and they play richmond again week one....
If it affects the make up of the finals, how does it fit within the integrity rule???
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They are a Melbourne team:)
They are a Melbourne team:) different standards.
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Yep IMO that is "Tanking",
Yep IMO that is "Tanking", something the AFL is suppose to be stamping out.
Freo tanking will not affect their position on the ladder which in turn does not affect their draft pick position.
However North Melbourne opting to throw the game will affect their position on the ladder & therefore affecting their position in the draft picking order.
Am I wrong in thinking that ?????
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Sub vests gone in 2016 and
Sub vests gone in 2016 and rotations capped at 90 (down from 120)
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good article here below makes
good article here below makes agood case aginst ''resting players ''
hezzy
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/29424381/resting-teams-stretches-afl-integrity/
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Not bad arguments but misses
Not bad arguments but misses the point that a horse race is a single event competition with a prize at the end of that race. The afl is a season event were the prize is at the end and a reward for multiple events over the course of the season. If a horse trainer would rather win the melbourne cup than race three at kalgoorlie three weeks before, he withdraws the horse from kLgoirlie to rest and avoid injury. It doesnt impact the integrity of that race and gives the horse at better chance at the cup?
The afl is in a poistion where they need to balance a teams best chance at a premiership against the impact of individual games on the competition.
Fremantle's position is much clearer than north melbourne's. A port loss is the only way draft picks could be affected, therefore resting freo players cannot affect the integity of that particular game. The afl then have to decide if it is a commercially smart decision to inconvenience supporters and suffer any backlash if they choose to. If this case they have accepted that risk.
But the north melbourne result can affect ladder positions within the eight, depending on other results. So not only could north benefit, but it could cause detriment to other clubs. Imo that certainly calls into question the integrity of that particular game.
Should the potentially affected clubs be allowed to make sumbmissions as to why north melbourne should rest? Can they already? Do the afl consider that already? I dont know.
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Someone else raises a good
Someone else raises a good point on one of the blogs...
North bring in 10 players from the vfl who are unlikely to get another afl game. They lose, so theyre playing richmond again the following week... but in the process some of those inclusions intentionally smash the richmond players, causing injury, potentially concussion. Several tigers miss the following week and north bring back in their rested players.... suspenions to the 'intruders' doesnt really affect north melbourne....
Unlikely, but you never know.
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so since the AFL agreed to
so since the AFL agreed to let freo drop half there best team, are the AFL going to compensate port for low ticket sales to what appears to be an ordinary scratch match?
why wouldnt port put forward there reserves and try to loose for better draft pick?
i would do the exact same thing if i were in charge of north
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All the above is
Is why you shouldn't comprises any game.everyone should always play their best team
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Yep making a joke out of the
Yep making a joke out of the comp. Your comments are spot on Gilly.
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Another angle
Talking about putting their best team on the track each week and giving the public the game they expect doesn't happen.
One only has to look at the injury lists and see how many players are out for the season on the low ranked teams with many of their players out weeks ago having end of season operations when it became clear they wouldn't take part in the finals. So if that's not tanking then what is it?
Every team is supposed to be on an equal footing but the ones playing finals have a smaller period of time during the off season for their players to recover if operations are needed.
North Melbourne are tanking and shouldn't be permitted to drop players, end of story
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Here’s the guidelines .. The
Here’s the guidelines ..
"For the avoidance of doubt "legitimate competitive objective" includes the development of the team or players or management of player fatigue or injuries but does not include improving a club’s draft position, improving a club's position with respect to a potential player exchange or manipulating a club's position on the ladder for the purpose of improving its draw within the finals series."
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Rules or not, its pretty
Rules or not, its pretty simple. If you are in a position to do whatever is best for your team to win the flag so be it.
Ultimately there is only one prize.
If I was one of the coaches I would do the same thing if IMO it improved the chances in the finals. There is a risk though. Match fitness and morale issues. Being flogged whether you knew you might will have an effect on players Psych. Losing never feel good so both North and Freo are playing that risk.
On the other side, if Peel beats Port, and North against Richo - wow that would be a huge morale boost to both sides.
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The match fitness one is a
The match fitness one is a big one I think...I wonder if in the case of Freo how much of an effect having a core of players playing just one match in a three-four week period would have on them, should they win the QF? All power to them though I guess for finishing top with a game or so in hand but a bit of an iffy strategy I think. I'd hate to see the Hawks do it, well they did in 2011 against the Suns and got trounced by the Cats in the QF.
Though its not hard to see other teams try this out next year, shit hitting the fan and then the AFL do another knee jerk policy on the run.
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Should the paying public be able to pay less to go to such games
knowing they are not going to see the best players out on the park, but Peel Thunder and the Kangas seconds?
Just throwing this scenario out there folks
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ha ha hodge podge
Done for DD, swisse tablets and light and easy meals just don't cut it
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One would say he got of
One would say he got of "light and easy"
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You stole that from Bigfooty
You stole that from Bigfooty didn't you?
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Well, Go Go Gadget Arms
Well, Go Go Gadget Arms calls it quits after 400 games and two flags, an excellent career and a fine backman.
Luke Hodge done for DUI, blowing 0.068 after a function. Effing stupid thing to do for anyone, let alone a club captain.
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No further punishment
No further punishment
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cotchin throwing elbows
cotchin throwing elbows already
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going cheap....
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rock solid interview by
rock solid interview by channel 7 on hodgy
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congrats to the gadget man
congrats to the gadget man too, would have been good to see you play one more but you said no so good for you
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things are a little slow so
things are a little slow so here ya go
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Ha ha ha fark off Gilly!
Ha ha ha fark off Gilly!
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Thats very fucking funny!
Thats very fucking funny!
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young eyes
Apologies for the pic that was here. I did edit it to say PINT but must have posted the original which said well you no
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Go to bed before you
Embarrass yourself
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ahhahaahha i bet it was the
ahhahaahha i bet it was the first one wasnt it
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No mate water of a ducks back
It was the podge on with that bad word
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yup thats why it got
yup thats why it got deleted. not sure why the edited version didnt come up.
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What can I say
Bad taste
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Captain Hodgeeee maaate
Captain Hodgeeee maaate legend ,
His first brain fade with his partner in crime Lewis resulted in the Hawks losing the following 2 games .. then he wraps Wingards head around a point and whilst on suspension goes out and gets on the piss and gets busted .
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Crows getting a few
Crows getting a few injuries
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Haha agreed Chris
he is a wanker and he even thinks he's above the law. I would love to see someone belt him and put him on his arse..Hows Ryan going in possibly his last game..could do the job. Beats him every time they meet.
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It’s all happeningGeelong
It’s all happening
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keiren jack injury doesnt
keiren jack injury doesnt look to good for swans, great for freo
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arrrr injuries
arrrr injuries
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Good tune up for the Eagles
watch out next week Hawks!
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good win for west coast
good win for west coast
how bloody good was nic nat tonight !
game on with the hawks next week
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friday night yew lets get it
friday night yew lets get it on
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At a wedding in Bali this
At a wedding in Bali this Saturday night. Thanks to whomever Scheduled the Eagles game for Friday night!!
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so was Masten the only injury for the Eagles?
Hopefully they will be cherry ripe for next weekend!
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Yeah looked like it
Yeah looked like it