What have I caught?

What have I caught?

Caught in 350m off Exmouth today, I've done some research and have come up with my best guess,

Promethichthys prometheus
Roudi escolar
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/SpeciesSummary.php?ID=5008&genusname=Promethichthys&speciesname=prometheus
 
Any other opinions?

Full report to follow, it was a good day.


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Gemfish 

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:29

Gemfish

 

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my first thought as well but

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:36

my first thought as well but I reckon it is too long and thin. It measured about 110cm

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 nice what else did you catch

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:41

 nice what else did you catch mate???

 

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hehe

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:49

What else did he catch from the depths... well... :)  You will enjoy the photo, he won't as it will bring back some bad memories...

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150kg of f*@#%ng shark all

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:54

150kg of f*@#%ng shark all the way up from 350m.

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I went through the same pain

Thu, 2011-06-30 19:13

I went through the same pain when I was up exxy in january! Thought I was onto a horse until about half way up it was still fighting! Bloody sharks, is there no escape?

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weird looking i have no clue,

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:44

weird looking i have no clue, some big teeth on it

did it fight hard?

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Looks like a Gemfish to me

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:48

But I don't remember them being that dark , maybe just the depth you got him from , if it's a gem it's a bloody good one !!

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Thats hell ugly, whatever it

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:52

Thats hell ugly, whatever it is.

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gemfish

Thu, 2011-06-30 18:54

i haven't caught one but all the ones i've seen caught on tv were much more solidly built than that and shorter!! but i have no idea what it might be looks sort of like a barracouta/hairtail hybrid!  cheers

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Keep It?

Thu, 2011-06-30 19:02

Did you keep it? Do you know about the issues with eating Escolar?

Not sure if that one has the same issues but can be like Oilfish.

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We did keep it and heard the

Thu, 2011-06-30 19:55

We did keep it and heard the rumours and about regular toilet visits. After filleting one side we decided to donate it to the fish bin.

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Man I dont know

Thu, 2011-06-30 19:14

But it looks a little like this, and this is a gemfish. It is the underslung jaw that has me beat.

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That is scary!  What went

Thu, 2011-06-30 19:15

That is scary!  What went thru yor mind when you first saw it?

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less dorsal spines too.

Thu, 2011-06-30 19:20

less dorsal spines too.

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This one might be a

Thu, 2011-06-30 19:22

MOWA question. What the F@rk has "lucky Tim" caught?

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looks to me like a

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:02

barracouta!! the cold water variety you get down south?

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yep,

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:07

i reckon gemfish also. big carnt at that too! well done tim!

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Gemfish for me also.Never

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:26

Gemfish for me also.

Never caught one, but from this reference has the same features:

http://www.sea-ex.com/fishphotos/gemfish.htm

underslung top jaw, dark blotch on first dausal fin (½ coverage only), and 3 fang like top teeth evident in the photo!

Sure is one ugly fish, but meant to be terrific to eat!

 

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did you notice if the lateral

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:32

did you notice if the lateral line arced down just after the pectoral fin or further back towards the anal fin?

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I just had a look at a better

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:44

I just had a look at a better quality photo and the lateral line arcs down underneath the 4th and 5th dorsal spine from the front then runs pretty much down the middle ofthe fish to the tail. 

I still think it's too long and thin for a gemfish, plus it doesn't fit in to the distribution area

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A bit out there but look at the eyes

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:58

in both of the pics on this post and the other the eyes look yellow.  Perhaps a result of flash but the ruby's eyes are normal.  I think this fish maybe blind and as a result is not in the best of condition.  A poor conditioned gemfish?

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flash

Thu, 2011-06-30 21:04

Say it would be flash, it had those eerie deep water eyes that reflected everything.  The fish appeared to be in great condition and was ripe, one big male ready to go.

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Look at the pic

Thu, 2011-06-30 22:13

with all the fish on the table.  Jmo but I think there is something different about this fish's eyes compared to the others.  If it was flash why aren't the other fishes eyes on the table the same.  All three pics of this fish have the same distinct eye colouration which to me appears different.  Why ???

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it's 100% flash Alan, here's

Fri, 2011-07-01 07:21

it's 100% flash Alan, here's a photo taken without the flash

It had an eye typical of a fish that lived and fed in the dark- designed to capture all the light available. When you caught the sun on it at different angles it showed some pretty cool colours and reflections. 

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OK, that dismisses that theory

Fri, 2011-07-01 09:33

Looks like Bod's onto it.

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 Looks Gemfishish to me but

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:58

 Looks Gemfishish to me but I'm no expect.... alll I do know is that it's one crazy looking specimen! And mate, a great photo too!

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yeh, great now i got

Thu, 2011-06-30 20:59

yeh, great now i got nightmares

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 that thing is hell creepy!

Thu, 2011-06-30 21:31

 that thing is hell creepy!

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 we used to call them lance

Thu, 2011-06-30 22:15

 we used to call them lance fish on the tuna boat used to catch them all them all the time ugly snot fish.Used to yank them on the line there heads used to fall away from there bodies & if you pulled up the full fish they felt like jelly

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Snake Mackerel - Gempylus serpens?

Thu, 2011-06-30 23:16

http://australianmuseum.net.au/Snake-Mackerel-Gempylus-serpens-Cuvier-1829

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Could be onto something

Fri, 2011-07-01 06:29

Could be onto something there!

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I think Bod's got

Fri, 2011-07-01 07:34
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thats one weird fish

Fri, 2011-07-01 05:33

thats one weird fish

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still doesn't look exactly

Fri, 2011-07-01 14:35

still doesn't look exactly right

most of the snake mack's are VERY skinny and grow to max of 1m

this thing must have been on steroids big time

 

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Bloody hell I give up

Fri, 2011-07-01 14:56

I think it has been visiting ground zero at the Montes to often!!!!

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Black Snoek Thyrsitoides

Fri, 2011-07-01 15:21

Black Snoek Thyrsitoides marleyi

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yep, more like it

Fri, 2011-07-01 15:38
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Maybe you've set a new world

Fri, 2011-07-01 15:27

Maybe you've set a new world Snake Mackeral record Lucky Tim

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Now we are getting there

Fri, 2011-07-01 15:29

I think thats the one Aaron C.

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By the look

Fri, 2011-07-01 15:31

of the I.D. pics and the description I think Aaron C has solved this puzzle.

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Yeah, better fit for size

Fri, 2011-07-01 15:43

Yeah, better fit for size too.

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Yeh

Fri, 2011-07-01 17:05

I think the wreckers have it sussed. Pretty ugly beast if you ask me again.

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BINGO!!!!!

Fri, 2011-07-01 17:36

BINGO!!!!!

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Not sure what it is but I'm

Fri, 2011-07-01 17:47

Not sure what it is but I'm sure it will give many people nightmares

 

CCC

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Just looking through my Sea

Fri, 2011-07-01 23:52

Just looking through my Sea Fishes book of Southern Australia The common name for this beast is Barracouta (Snoek) not Barracuda .Very closely related to the Gemfish. They swim in large schools in deep water. So Bod Is on the money.

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barracouta 

Sat, 2011-07-02 17:33

barracouta

 

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Yeahh Aaron's right

Mon, 2011-07-25 15:24

Yeahh Aaron's right