Whites run predictions?
Submitted by Reefsta on Sat, 2023-11-11 12:24
Anyone got thoughts on the most likely timing for the whites this year? I've been potting last few weeks but only reds and the majority berried females. Last year the expert at Fisheries thought it could be ealry November due to slightly higher water temperatures, but it wasn't ue to a surprise cooler water pulse in November that delayed things From what I have gathered, on an average year where coastal seawater temperature is 20 or above, ealry to Mid- to late November is normal for the run, but last year it was patchy and around Perth metro seemed to only really get going from about 7 December. Anyone thinking this month is still likely, or could it be December like last year?
carnarvonite
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Full moon
Run usually starts after the full moon imo
Reefsta
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Makes sense
Thanks. I was wondering about the moon, but despite the lunar cycle being very important for spawning in many marine species I couldn't find anything definitive about it triggering the cray migration. Had only heard that water temperature was a key for the run to kick off, along with a bit of swell coming through. Anyway, full moon being 28th November I'm guessing then onward might be good time to focus on..
squidvicious1
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Live on a road that goes to
Live on a road that goes to the boat ramp, the number of boats that can't navigate a roundabout kadunk kadunk from about 4.30 am. :) :)
Swompa
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The christmas trees are
The christmas trees are flowering as is the seaweed so i thought it was going to happen earlier. I got 22 degree water temperature behind GI a couple of weeks ago but only 20.5 at Parker POint.
My folks have two pots in at Shoalwater and said there are no pots around them. They have 2 crays in 2 weeks
The spot I swim at at GI that always has crays has nothing at all
Land has certainly dried out and warmed up early this year so its all a bit different.
If i recall correctly, last year didnt really have a wave of crays south of the river?
Brock O
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Seen a few shell's and fresh
Seen a few shell's and fresh malted white Friday during a dive....few weeks away at least.
sea-kem
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Yep agree, I reckon they
Yep agree, I reckon they won't really move until end November early Dec
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piscetor
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crays
Pulled my pots this morning got one white the other pot got hooked up and lost a couple of battens so could have been more, it had a hard shell so molted early by the looks of it. After the next moon they should run then the moon won't matter. i had full pots on a full moon last year.
Filletmaster
sea-kem
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Good to hear they are close,
Good to hear they are close, I love this time of year dropping the pots and even just catching a bag of Whiting after.
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still trying
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My pots are going in this
My pots are going in this weekend don't get me wrong only just pulled some pots out 2 weeks ago planning on catching crays on the full moon if not then 1 week later.
rather be fishing
Swompa
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Folks got 6 on saturday - 2
Folks got 6 on saturday - 2 in each of 3 pots.
Went for a quick swim in Shoalwayer with the kids snorkeling on top. Saw 8 kakka reds...was going nice untli the shark chopper flew low, circled and sounded its siren a bit too close to us. Mum and kids straight on the reef while i swam over to the boat to play Uber.
Sea goat
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checked our pots yesterday
checked our pots yesterday and gotnthing. went for a snorkel after, didnt see any crays,
when got back in the boat and took my fins off, noted something moving in between the rubber on the floor....little blue ring had hopped on board. must have come up with the potts. . bloody lucky, coz was so tiny only saw it by chance... looks like we caught somethingafter all!
Swompa
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Jeez, you'd prefer not!
Jeez, you'd prefer not!
Pete F
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People starting to bag out
People starting to bag out from Lancelin yesterday.
Cheers
still trying
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Sounds like a good chance of
Sounds like a good chance of me getting a bag on the weekend then hopefully
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cruisecraft02
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Got 11 from 3 pots this arvo
Got 11 from 3 pots this arvo all whites 7m nor
Marineboy
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Whites
Dived south of Hillary's yesterday 18m and 5of the 7 crays caught were whites and plenty more spotted.
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
Reefsta
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First white
Last few weeks near Stragglers in around 10m has breen just reds, but today one pot came up with3 larger reds and my first white for this season. Hopefully things will kick off soon.
richie68
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whites
Bagged out last 2 days behind Garden Island(16). Big whites today. Local Bronze Whalers were freindly too.6m.
still trying
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Heaps of crays today 34 in 2
Heaps of crays today 34 in 2 pots
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sea-kem
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Whoa! Nice work Guy Are you
Whoa! Nice work Guy
Are you using full size pots? I've just bought a couple from Dags hoping to deploy next Saturday.
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uncle
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Good
Doogs mate
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still trying
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Mainly full size I have 1
Mainly full size I have 1 3/4 pot out. Full size pots definitely made me catch more seems to hold crays longer too.
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still trying
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21 from other 2 pots this
21 from other 2 pots this morning only 2 licences though
rather be fishing
Swompa
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Dropped my pots in 15m behind
Dropped my pots in 15m behind GI on saturday and with my folks on board, went down to pull theirs in Shoalwater. Got 12 size onboard. 4 pots with 1, 1, 0 and 10. All pots are side by side.
Pulled mine on saturday. Still lots of spiderwebs on them and managed 7. I am pleased.
Cant believe how many pots are just behind the reef at GI.
uncle
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Sharing pots with selthy this year
1st pull today, 0 in first pot, 13 big whites in 2nd pot,good start. Doesn't seem to be as many pots out this year, car park only 1/4 full this morning.
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Swompa
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Where are you fishing
Where are you fishing uncle?
THe back of GI is like a spider has been thrown around a washing machine.
I got 4 yesterday, 2 in each pot but it was old bait.
uncle
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Ocean reef
Mate
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Curndog
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Got our 24 from 5 pots this
Got our 24 from 5 pots this morning mindarie
sea-kem
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Nice mate dropping ours
Nice mate
dropping ours tomorrow albeit a bit late. Have'nt been able to launch the boat. Can't wait to try out these new pro size pots.
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Curndog
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Are you dropping yours up at
Are you dropping yours up at seabird? Surely must clean up there. Seem to be going early this year. I got good numbers in close though
sea-kem
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Yeah mate, they're getting a
Yeah mate, they're getting a small front end loader in to day to fill up the end of the ramp. I know the small boats out of town have been killing it.
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uncle
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There's no chatter about crays this year
Never seen it so quiet.
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Swompa
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Got 9 size out of 11 on
Got 9 size out of 11 on Sunday. Gave one to a bloke just inside the line I am on who got 1 out of 3.
moved the pots up the back of GI and yesterdays pot had 7 in one and 0 in the other right beside it.
Certsinly am not getting heaps but it makes it entertaining. Have given away all bar 2 so happy to be sharing them around.
Cjsurf
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Shocker
Having an absolute shocker off sorrento 8-12m. Unless last week when i was away its was hot and i missed it, otherwise its a shocker.
Normally can get a good feed out there but might have to rethink it next year and join the clownshow on the northside of the channel.
Anyone else have hillarys success this year?
Cheers
Brock O
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Ive got zeros last 5 weeks,
Ive got zeros last 5 weeks, low on bait once and only pulling weekly.
10-15 back GI.
Will move deeper for a few more weeks before cutting the floats for good...fkn stinking pieces of shit they are...
Will stick to diving, so much easier and cheaper.
Curndog
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Haha brocko,that comment
Haha brocko,
that comment cracked me up... I feel the same don't even eat the dirty fuckers but yet I spend all this money on chasing them. Shit year for me too, guessing they went really early and I was too busy procrastinating whether or not I was going to bother. Still got a few for the family and friends
Jsmolly
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Hillarys fark all. Jam it.
Hillarys fark all. Jam it. Only good things has been no traffic at ramp (comparatively).
I'm with Brocko, dive we get 24, 1.5kg+ each and spear a fish or two.
Jsmolly
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Hillarys fark all. Jam it.
Hillarys fark all. Jam it. Only good things has been no traffic at ramp (comparatively).
I'm with Brocko, dive we get 24, 1.5kg+ each and spear a fish or two.
Messiah
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For me, spots that fired
For me, spots that fired last year have produced nothing this year, whilst other spots have bagged on a single pot..
Get some long ropes and more fuel, or park em up for the year - they've headed deep already.
I'll probably pull them in this weekend.
ChopChop
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First pull for us on Sunday and bagged out with 24.
Got another bag on Tuesday but only 17 yesterday. Dropping off quick.
Curndog
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How deep chop chop? Or
How deep chop chop? Or secret lol
ChopChop
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20-30m
Pros seemed to be moving their lines out deeper. Hope there is another flush of whites...
rob90
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I'm glad to hear it's not
I'm glad to hear it's not just me having a crap time. I've resorted to just fishing for reds now, only saw 3 whites in 3weeks. Fished the back of the centaur for 2 weeks for one occy then moved further north last week and have managed a few feeds but nothing to brag about. Gonna do more road miles next year and less pulls for more rewards hopefully.
Hi my name is rob............. and I'm a........... fishaholic
rob90
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Hi my name is rob............. and I'm a........... fishaholic
piscetor
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crays
9/12/23------- they is gone,gone, gone. back of the five fathom, safety bay,6 pots all blanks.
Filletmaster
little johnny
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Out in 35 plus
Now . Very very quick run. I would have thought with no big swells they would have lasted.
ChopChop
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12 today.
Thinking this might be it...
Happy dayz
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Yes agree LJ very quick run
Yes agree LJ very quick run had about 10 days of bag outs now lucky to get one or 2 whites, have been still getting a lot of reds last couple of days, more than I can remember catching this time of the year , 15 reds today , get your pots on the reef now fellas
Happy dayz
Messiah
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Polar opposite to last
Polar opposite to last year!!
Chasing them to 40+ with the weather forecast doesn't make sense. At least the pros will make a few bucks with BOBs leading up to Chrissy.
Jadeo
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Anyone else having problems
Anyone else having problems with their pots being tampered with this year off Mandurah? Last 2 pulls they have kindly left the gates open and about 150 meters of the mark. Spoke to fisheries at the ramp and there have been quie a few more complaints this year than normal. Would love to catch them in act. I am beginning to wonder if it worth it anymore. Over it to say the least
little johnny
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I nail gates
Or big zippy ties. Been a few people I know out from rocko same thing gates open hanging. Quick pull open gate , tip crays out , dump pot gone. Too easy for them.
Reefsta
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OK today
Pulled my 2 pots after a week soak today. Total 18, even mix of whites and reds. 15m FFB out from Carnac.
still trying
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1 cray yesterday and a stuck
1 cray yesterday and a stuck pot 1 cray today and a pot gone missing drove round for half an hour looking but couldn't find it.
rather be fishing
uncle
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Is it stuck
In your good area?
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
still trying
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Stuck where we caught
Stuck where we caught snapper
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Swompa
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0 from 2 yesterday and a big
0 from 2 yesterday and a big arse shark at the north western tip of GI.
wifecallsmegrumpy
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Hillarys
Killed it again this year out of Hillary's behind Little Island.
Run started about 25 Nov and went for about 10 days, mostly bag outs. It's well over though. Just getting the odd white (one this morning) and all red with lots of berries/tar.
We have 4 pots in 30mtrs still and it's a mix of Jumbo males and berried females. Our pots come in at the end of the week, we have enough and the 5am starts are getting old.
sea-kem
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1st pull for the season
1st pull for the season yesterday bag out of 24 with a jumbo out of only 2 pots
Pull again today and 22 4 pots pull with 2 jumbos
only 3 whites rest all red and good size. Very very happy
Love the West!
still trying
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Did the new pots go well
Did the new pots go well Andy?
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sea-kem
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Guy they were the killers,
Guy they were the killers, I've been doing it all wrong lol. I'll be getting more.
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still trying
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Haha they will suit the way
Haha they will suit the way you fish on the longer soaks
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