Stingray rig?
Submitted by garethgkr on Sat, 2010-01-02 12:56
I'm going to to Woodmans Pt on Monday night. Trying to catch a stingray or something big. What rig do I use? I've got a 12" Surf rod with 25lb mono on it. Just need to to know what sort of hook/sinker rigs needed.
Cheers!
shifeng
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i use the same rig for
i use the same rig for mulloway, a running sinker with 2 snelled hooks... eshed markets has lotsa rays
garethgkr
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is there a name for this rig?
so i can google it? what sort of bait do you use?
Biggo
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Bait
Rays will take fish baits, but they love crabs
kempy
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a gang hook with a big
a gang hook with a big sinker that makes the bait lay on the floor sting ray for sure
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watch out you dont get stung
i got stung down at city beach last night by a ray that " peterb " beached it HURTS there quick to wack ya with there tail
shifeng
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i always get them on
i always get them on mullies. so i say any oily fish is good for them. lol. it's not hard a rig... just let your sinker slide on your main line and then a leader to a swivel at the end of your main line
Hazell
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Same here
Thats pretty much the rig i use.
I go about 50cm of leader material swivel-swivel with a running snap swivel on it for lead (usually with a small 10lb circle to the lead incase of snags) then about 30-50cm leader to 2 snelled 5/0-7/0's.
mainline-----SWIVEL----------------RUNNING SWIVEL(-LEAD)--------SWIVEL--------------HOOK---HOOK
Has not caught me a mulloway but a few rays.
Ash Hazell
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shifeng
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the mullas are elusive. not
the mullas are elusive. not easy to get em. rays... they just go for it.
Hazell
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I thought that was sarcasm
Haha, I saw it on the recent posts thing and thought you were suggesting they were not ellusive... You would have to be pretty talented to say that!
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biggerfish
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rays love squid and the
rays love squid and the peckers cant get it off as quick
Play hard fish harder
Hazell
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I'll second that.
I'll second that. I caught a monster in Dawseville with 2 big squid flaps on the snelled rig.
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Leemo
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my rig
my rig is
--------O-----Running Swivel-------------G---G
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big ass snapper lead
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Leemo
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^^ the snapper lead is
^^ the snapper lead is attached via line to the running swivel. didnt show up on here
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Dale
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Herring for bait, rays come
Herring for bait, rays come from miles for them.
Cheers
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garethgkr
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Cheers guys for the tips.
Why is it that the sinker must be a running sinker?
Will a Paternoster rig work if I shorten the length of the sinker line?
grayzeee
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use running sinker as bait
use running sinker as bait lies on bottom with nothing over it (like main line on paternoster rig)
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garethgkr
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Do I put the running sinker
Do I put the running sinker above or below the swivel?
Which one?
A) ---main line-----0-----O------0----J----J
B) ---main line----O---0---------J-----J
0= swivel
O= running sinker.
J= snell hooks.
does it matter how I hook the bait? because it isn't a gang hook.
Leemo
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sinker below the swivel. rig
sinker below the swivel. rig it so that the bottom hook is through thre fishs head and the second is eithe hrough the tail, or the gut
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garethgkr
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aight.
is 50 lb trace enough?
desmond
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Woodmans point
South side in the bay. Tons of large rays will just circle there. You can spot them during the day. I used a No4 breakaway sinker (sputnik sinker) clipped to a 200lbs samurai 3way swivel and a 2-3ft 80-100lbs trace to two snelled 7/0 or 9/0 octopus hooks. On the hook goes an octopus tentacle apprx 6-10ins long and 1 to 1.5 ins in diameter.
It isn't as easy to cast as the running sinker, but it stays where you want it. With octo or squid you won't worry abt the pickers. Squid can mask the hook point when it slides down so I prefer octo.
DieHard
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Nice Rig do ya use a wire
Nice Rig
do ya use a wire trace i have cuagth some rays and have seen the teeth on them.
i use wire trace and basically same rig as u but a x2 7/0 hook on a fillet of herring.
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desmond
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Nope
I don't use wire but I think that's preference. I did lose a few when on 50lbs just when I was gonna land them, so changed to 80-100 and didn't lose any more. The teeth are more like grinders, they're abrasive on the line so if you hook them deep, they'll grind through given enough time. I think the big hooks help.
garethgkr
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wow thats a pro rig. South
wow thats a pro rig. South side as in the woodmans point jetty? ( T jetty)
desmond
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Nope
Think you're referring to coogee jetty or the ammo jetty which is like the next exit. I'm saying just south of woodman's pt itself (where there's that sculpture on a pole right on the point by the carpark. There's a stretch of beach just before you get there. Or from the "point" with your back to the sea take the right hand side and walk back inland. There's a carpark for like 5 cars on the other side of the "dune" You'll find it's pretty sheltered there too.
Haven't been there in a while. But if it's the same you don't have to cast very far. If you want to lug a big bait out, Use a pulley rig with a breakaway clip. You can cast baits of about a foot with that and it won't snag on the retrieve.
At woodies 50lbs will do but for the bigger ray and when you have to cast further out where there's current, you'll find the trace comes back in pretty bad shape. You might lose a few towards the end when they slowly wear through it and they can take a while to bring in. They are not leader shy so I stick to 80lbs mono - can even be coloured..
Colin Hay
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You can catch stingrays on just about any rig They are not
fussy unfortunately. Mulies will definately do the job as a bait. Cut up a dozen or so of them into small pieces and throw them in the water gradually and the stingrays will show up.
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shifeng
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if u have wire trace u could
if u have wire trace u could land a shark too! but if u use just mono for rays it's fine but if a shark comes u'll lose ur rig
joe amato
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stingray rig
i used to target them at north mole years ago using a tailor rig which is a big three way swivel, short lead of 30cm to sinker(of the rocks use spoon sinker big enough for conditions) or a star sinker of beach ,a leader of 80lb plus about 60 cm atached to a set of tarpon 4/0 gangs ,using mulies,you catch tailor,sharks on this rig aswell,i used to catch heaps of rays on this rig,good alrounder,if there are sharks about use 150lb plus mono,anyway have fun on your adventure
garethgkr
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thanks.
hope i get something tonite... didnt get a chance to go to the shops to get heavier trace.
garethgkr
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no stingray...
oh well gotta try again...got a couple herrings and skipjacks tho. and a random garfish..
tried using the hering as bait. but i think crabs love mutilating bait i throw out.
wheres the best place to chase stingrays?
Colin Hay
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Off Hillarys Marina on the main wall
near Boy In a Boat reef. I hooked four of the mongrels in a few hours one day.
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DieHard
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yes just like 100-200m south
yes just like 100-200m south of Pinaroo point is sometimes where i go!
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garethgkr
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south of the river.
any places south of the river?
Colin Hay
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South Mole is supposed to be a pretty good
stingray hunting spot.
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joe amato
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TrY NORTH MOLE
try the end of north mole near the light house,heaps of rays around there,also tailor ,sharks at night usualy in summer,or even try the amo jetty if thats closer
Hazell
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Shovel nose's
There used to be alot of shovel nose rays/sharks aroung the ammo jetty.
Whole yellowtails did the job for bait. We fished them unweighted on a still night but a simple running sinker rig as above would be better.
Ash Hazell
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garethgkr
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where
where is ammo jetty?
joe amato
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ammo jetty
ammo jetty is near picnic area before woodman point boat turnoff after coogee caravan park on cockburn road