People Breaking your Gear
How do you guys handle deckie mates breaking your shit on the boat. Took out my brother in law who fishes a lot and he broke a rod, a drink holder and a fixing for my clears. The the two fixings cost me $20 to replace but the rod is going to be $90 and I don't really want to ask for the money and no offer was forthcoming.
I've taken out other mates just squidding and have two boxes of jigs and say one is fine to use, the other is user replaces. Thinking of setting same rules for mates who want to come out and don't have their own gear and borrow the Mrs' gear i.e. set the break it and replace it agreement before we head out. I've also thought about buying a few cheaps combos off Gumtree for deckies to use but my house is already full of rods and reels.
How do you guys go about providing gear for mates, family etc who want to come out for a fish?
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scottnofish
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as the saying goes
You break it youve bought it
Swompa
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Was he being a dickhead or
Was he being a dickhead or was it an accident?
If he intentionally damaged it then I would ask him to pay for it. Chances of you being paid are slim so if you are keen to battle then good luck.
Personally, if I went out on someone's boat and broke something I would offer to replace it.
linoc
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Date Joined: 21/11/15
+1, if they said "don't
+1, if they said "don't worry about it" I'd buy-em a carton or something to val (not that I ever broke anything)
I'd never go out on someone elses boat without giving (not offering) some $'s for fuel, would supply drinks/snaks etc, would help them wash the boat down etc when getting back (if convienient for all), some people... well....
dodgy
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Part of being a boat
Part of being a boat owner.
I have a few old combos that I lend to people when bottom bashing. Pretty hard to kill the old toriums on a jigwrex.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
D_d_001
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I've heard that toriums on
I've heard that toriums on jigwrex's don't like being submerged to 70m
;)
dodgy
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I hear they love it.well
I hear they love it.
well they don't come back to say any different anyway.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
D_d_001
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Date Joined: 09/03/13
sometimes clips and other
sometimes clips and other shit on the boat just breaks as dodgy said it's part of being a boat owner
but if a deckie/mate broke a rod and didn't offer to replace (I wouldn't ask) then the offers of being a deckie would slow down.
Bodie
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Date Joined: 05/11/07
yep it sucks, kinda part and
yep it sucks, kinda part and par of being a boat owner.
Fishing gear is kinda different story i think, but Boat stuff is a tough one. had a few things broken here and there but is it wear and tear or clumsyness?
Last one was the lid on the live well, it was open and whilst pulling pots someone leant on it and it broke at the hinges...
devhay
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Date Joined: 27/10/14
You break it, you buy it has
You break it, you buy it has always been the unspoken agreement among my family and friends..
General wear and tear items understandable, but generally someone will offer to cover it before anyone ever has the chance to ask
Just1morecast
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Date Joined: 04/12/09
Im a deckie usually for a
Im a deckie usually for a few on fw. Ive borrowed gear off mates and used it for a day. High end gear too, ive never broken anything but if i were too its borrowed on the basis of if i break it i buy a replacement. Usually after using gear ive borrowed ill give the owner some jigs. Its always a hard one with family, usually they dont have an idea of what things cost boating or fishing wise.
Forever learning with fishing
Gav475
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Date Joined: 16/11/11
sons
For all those with kids it only gets worse. I have 3 sons all in their late 20's who have their own life, jobs, houses ect. Every time we go fishing they use all my gear, I supply bait, fuel, boat. They have their own rods but never do you get a "would you like some coin for fuel and bait dad"? Just part of the deal and I would never ask them as would just go by myself anyway for the same cost but prefer their company. Joys of being a boat owner ay!
resurgence
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Date Joined: 23/04/14
Not an issue for me
If someone comes on my boat and gear breaks, it's no big deal. It could have easily happened when I was using it.
If it continued to happen then I might reconsider inviting them back.
Jackfrost80
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Date Joined: 07/05/12
If it was being used
If it was being used correctly and not using a 1-3kg rod to try break a snag
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Deleted
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Might be time to pull the
Might be time to pull the pin on fishing and boating had some bad luck
Jackfrost80
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Haha. 2x demersal bashes on
Haha. 2x demersal bashes on the boat for 2x dhufish, 2 sambos and a black arse as a beginner so far. My fishing luck has been ok.
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Marineboy
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Agree with gilly
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
Jackfrost80
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Agree that fixings are part
Agree that fixings are part of it and bygones are bygones in regard to the broken rod but reckon setting some ground rules before handing over a combo will be the go in the future. Took a mate out on Tuesday off Busso and he reached for my Biomaster/Catalina combo and I just laughed and said "nah mate, not that one".
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barneyboy
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Its a tough one..
Had a bloke break our cabin door. He offered to fix it. Still hasn't. He is a freind. Like fishing with him.
Just wear it and get on with it aye..
FEEEISH ONNN!!!
uncle
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Had a crewie cast a heavy lure and smash my monstermesh
Said to his brother in law I'll have replace uncs rod still waiting! Hurts more when you thought they were mates
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
uncle
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Had a crewie cast a heavy lure and smash my monstermesh
Said to his brother in law I'll have replace uncs rod still waiting! Hurts more when you thought they were mates
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Callum24
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I dont let any one use my
I dont let any one use my gear any more i left me rod for a good mate up north and come back with 5 outa 6 guides smashed which I paid for I got the story it was the dog, the misses, the kids, dont bother any more only the misses uses my gear now and no probs
Been a tradesmen I was always tought you look after other blokes gear better than your own, and you break it you bought it
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grantarctic1
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Depends
Depends on how it happened. But if they are prone to breaking stuff due to lack of care or respect, they never get an invite again.
Paul_86
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There's 3 things you never
There's 3 things you never let a mate borrow, your car, your wife or your fishing gear, coz if you do they will all come back f@#ked!
Jim
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I wouldnt feel right these
I wouldnt feel right if I didnt offer to replace.
Tis' the age old drummers problem. You play hard you pay.
Bend over
Chinbald
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Date Joined: 21/02/09
Choose your Deckies carefully
If good ones aren't available. Solo mission. As stated above have three kids they know that a reel doesn't like salt water or beach sand emersion.
Carry
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Date Joined: 22/04/09
I dont ask
i dont ask i just replace it simple as that.
We feel nothing but a certain difficulty in continuing to stand
sandbar
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Date Joined: 25/10/09
unwritten law as far as i know
goes without saying, you break it you pay for it, or atleast offer. Fark me! What has the world come too! Hey, you own a boat, must be rich? Yeah right, Fark off ! And inlaws, tell the missus to sort her brothers out. When she finds out your losing money???
And sorry GAV475, you're a top bloke, thats being a DAD, not a boat owner. I doubt when my 2 boys are older i could ever ask them for "coin", i would be happy to spend time with them. Thats Priceless!
Broome lad
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Date Joined: 16/11/15
If you bend it
You mend it very bloody simple really if you can't mend it you replace it if not no more going on my boat .
Da pirate
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No invite !!!!
Like grantartic said !! Accidents happen !! But if was being stupid ??
Then you might want to consider not taking them out again !! Also
get some mates that are going to respect you and your boat n gear !!
Enough said really !!! Cheers pirate !!!
Madmerv
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Date Joined: 24/01/15
Deckies sometimes need to be taught
Experienced fishermen, like the FW community, know all to well how much our hobbie costs. I would be very surprised if any FW's didnt replace broken gear and offer to help with expences.
One off deckies like family (especially extended family), work mates, friends of friends etc generally have no idea what the day has cost or the cost of the gear. "pick a rod and reel up for $40 in Kmart cant you" "just broke that small thing on the boat, they would be cheap to replace" You know like the transducer.. "Only lost a few of his rigs while fishing" Yeah with $15 worth of hooks,swivels,leader,Lumo occys and lead.
Even some experienced boaters but not experienced fishermen need to be told not to bash your new graphite rod cause it cost $400 and is not an uglystik.
A little pep talk while driving to the ramp and some advice on gear handling never goes astray along with perhaps some advice on how to pay for busted gear,, cash, direct deposit, BCF gift card to the value or just replace it with exactly the same but a new one...Lol
I know over the years i have deckied on many different boats and for some reason or other i'm prone to be the one who brakes their cheap ass, sun damaged plastic rod holders. 1 with a monster cobia, 1 just broke when i put the rod in it and 1 broke with to much force from my fat ass hitting it on a rough day. 2 cheap ass plastic holders of the same design were hand delivered the next day and the last lucky guy (i wanted to go out with him a lot more) got 2 stainless steel ones delivered to replace the shitty ones he had.
Cheapest way of going fishing on a boat is to have a mate with a boat so dont abuse the privelage.
Sometimes when the water is quiet, you can hear the fish laughing at you !
crasny1
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I just go with the flow
Always had a saying - shit happens.
And if you take friends/family out - well shit happens.
Never asked nor expected anyone to pay for anything, but have to admit than other than crab scoops and nets my and the Mrs (deckie) fishing gear is ours and ours only. I don't even touch hers (or I would be dead!!!). Usually go out with about 3-4 different setups each but again the other setups aren't for anyones use and it is made very clear.
When taking people fishing have a few older rods/reels that I don't use anymore that gets chucked onboard, and if they break so what
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Dogmeat
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Date Joined: 16/07/13
+1 Madmerv, welcome on my
+1 Madmerv, welcome on my boat anytime!
Errant sinkers are my achilles heel.....if someone is good enough to take you fishing DONT smash your lead into the gelcoat hullside on retrieve, leave your sinker swinging around wildly between spots because you cant be assed letting out enough line to lay it on the deck/slipping it into a spare rod holder recess, drop them from height onto the deck when rebaiting etc...its disrespectful and as other have said, some people underestimate the time/cost of even minor indiscretions on boats.
If all else fails and your mates still dont get your more subtle overtures, get one of those "my boat doesnt run on thanks" stickers!
joycey
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Date Joined: 28/05/11
After taking out clueless
After taking out clueless mates for a long time, lending gear and setting up their gear, I felt like I was running a charter, so solo now unless get a clued up deckie ( not that many around !). That said always more fun fishing with another person.
z00m
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Date Joined: 10/05/14
Deckies
I really enjoy having someone else on the boat so don't ask for payment or anything. How much extra does that person cost in fuel?
Of the deckies I have taken out from FW and work, they have all been respectful of the boat and brought their own combos so haven't had a drama.
Jackfrost80
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Yeah I agree with that one. I
Yeah I agree with that one. I don't accept fuel money but my 90hp runs on a sniff of fuel. I did around 16nmi the other day with a mate and the refill cost me about $11 so no way am I going to ask for $5 fuel. If someone offers to feed the parking machine with change I won't say no though.
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D_d_001
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Date Joined: 09/03/13
yeah ... we are all in a
yeah ... we are all in a different boat there. my costs are usually quite a bit more.
80km round trip just to the ramp. (towing this adds up)
my day on the water is usually 50ish NM so min $100 fuel. add in 2st oil...everything else and if mates don't start chipping in it becomes a piss take.
having said that my usual deckie used to have a boat and always chips in so all good.
Jackfrost80
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Ouch. Love the dedication
Ouch. Love the dedication though!
Lucky for me work pays for my towing costs.
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linoc
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Date Joined: 21/11/15
"refill cost me about $11"
That's great fuel economy, what is it?
Jackfrost80
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Suzuki DF90 on a 5m Seafarer
Suzuki DF90 on a 5m Seafarer
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Ashen
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Good deckies
I have a few fisho mates that look after me well.
We usually fill up on our way to the ramp. They would automically go to the counter and pay for the fuel while Im at the pump. They also bring all bait. I just supply the boat, drinks, munchies and berley. This was never a spoken agreement. It just happens that way. They also have their own gear and help wash down the boat etc.
On the other hand, I sometimes take non-fisho mates and family members fishing. I usually supply almost everything. They just bring the refreshments. Haha
In regards to broken gear, as mentioned by some members, accidental breakerages and normal wear & tear do happen. I don't expect reimbursments due to that. Just spending time with family and friends is invaluable.
A fish in the hand is worth 10 in the water!