...from memory, $210 at Compleat Angler in Rocko...7 footer, 1-4gm cast weight, 1-3kg line class. I'm using 4lb suffix on it and going well with the 2-4gm stickbaits for whiting. I have also used it for fishing softies in the same weight range but have only got herring doing that so can't comment on how it would go for bream!

 daiwa gen black pinster

 Thanks auslobster and bazooked ill check them out

 Budget change- $350

 i got the 6'6 spellbinder love it great in the river on bream and flatties with lite lures but very ballsy on the skippy out wider on placcies sick rod

 Is something like a 7' 2-6lb tournament specialist bream good for small hard bodies. It has a parabolic arch which i dont really like but it apparently helps with not pulling trebles out of the fishes mouth.

 Abu vanguard, 6'10" 1-3kg, usually $600, in summer sale for $400 come into geographe camping, pretty sure I can get you one for $350. The only true nano rod, the blank is actually made with nano resin not just dipped in it after the blank is made like most rods that claim nano, I nearly bar up every time I use mine. Fuji SIC k guides, awesome rod! Besides that, daiwa black label, bit heavier in the hand, or the Gladiator psyborg, nano (dipped, like most) but has micro guides, witch bream folk love, usually around  $280.     Go the vanguard!

 Daiwa spellbinder has been discontinued, if you find one, BUY IT! Have no idea why, best rod you can get in that price range.

a custom like the one I just posted up in the lighter size for about $250 built.

 Found some good options by daiwa-

infeet both models

tournament specialist bream 702ulfsoh and 762lfsoh

black label versatile 691mlfs, 6101lfs and 762 mlfs

Or as cheaper options tdx 6101lfs or generation black albino and itchy twitchy

has anyone used any of these and can give a review or can recommend other similar rods- which are best suited to hard body lures and can cast them well, are they capable of stopping the occasonal bigger fish, what is their action/taper like and just their overall performance, value for money and your opinion on them.

thanks

 What makes a good soft plastic rod and hard body rod, i know there are many opinions on this topic but would still like all the info you can give. Or doesnt it matter. I will do a lot of whiting and bream (mainly whiting) fishing on sand flats with surface lures so a rod to suit that style of fishing is first priority and what else can that style of rod do. (If a surface lure rod is stiff and has a fast taper can that also be use for sps and then what type of rod is used for crank baits).

sorry about all the questions just want to choose the right rod for the job or if i can afford it, the rods for the jobs, so that i can cover more techniques

Been doing some reseach and found that the 6'9", 1/64-1/8 oz, 2-4lbs versatile suited what i was looking for almost perfectly

a review on the rod said it worked great to target whiting on topwater. The blank is fast enough to recover quickly during a really fast, aggressive retrieve style, yet the tip is still soft enough to assist during hookup on a low percentage topwater bite and not pull trebles. And is therefore also able to work sps, vibes and crank baits well. A good all round rod.

ill look around and see if i can get one for a good price.

has anyone else used one of these

 Mate do yourself a favour and get a rod with k guides.I dont think i will ever buy another rod without.

Hey mate,
Was looking at similar rods last few days and ended up with the Daiwa Tournament specialist bream 672UL I think it is. 2-4lb line rating havnt used it yet but feels very nice and balanced with a 1000 shimano reel. Feels much better balanced and lighter than the nitro vapour I was looking at even though the nitro is meant to be much lighter.
The rod is very similar to the steez rods, pretty much the sanme butt with the ratchet reel seat and blank.
Btw Compleat angler in rocko has a 12% off rods sale.

 Yeah i was also looking at a tsb aswell.when does the sale end

 Brg are fuji k guides really that benefitial

not sure when sale ends mate give em a call. You get less wind knots with k guides mate actually I've never gotten one using k guides before.

 Went to compleat angler rockingham today and bought the bl versatile 6'9" 2-4 lbs 1/64-1/8oz rod i mentioned earlier for $260. Thanks phil for your great service. I have had a chance to test it out yet but it certainly looks the part, what about you matt, have you used your tsb.

Sounds like a good choice mate. Gotta get some line spooled on my new reel then will try and get some fat whiting.
What reel and line are you matching it with?

 Just a shimano exage 1000 with 4lb nitlon pe i already had. Ill upgrade to a better reel soon, maybe a td soll ii 2000 but dont really want to spend too mich on the reel.

 We have a big range in rods that will suit you. Staff memebr Justin is currently using the Daiwa zero ulx 1-5g at 1-3gk rod for YFW and herring as well as squid and rates it. Remember you will still get 10% OFF all purchases with your FW DISCOUNT.