cray thief caught!
Submitted by scotto on Sat, 2015-11-28 06:32
Heard on 882 with karl langdon this morning, a guy from fisheries that apprehended just this morning, a 56 year old bloke, and his 53 year old wife, with 81 cray tails in their possesion, at one of the northern marinas this morning.
He said as well as a $20k fine they were now facing, they would also be charged with obstruction, as they were trying to tip the cray tails back into the water when fisheries boarded their boat. He also mentioned a few other avenues they could persue to increase the fines, and also that they were definately heading to court with some "seriously life changing fines".
Good to hear!!! Looking forward to reading the full statement when all the other details are released.
big john
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Good
Good to hear Scotto.
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uncle
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Arseholes
Throw the book at them
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scotto
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yep
Sounds like they have every intention of doing just that unc!!
The fisheries bloke mentioned that this is the kind of thing theyve been targeting lately, and people have to stop with the "gold rush mentality" when it comes to crays at this time of year.
Paul_86
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Well done fisheries! There
Well done fisheries! There not needs to be sunk!
uncle
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Hope there not
Ours!
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Nauti Buoy
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Good!
Say goodbye to their boat and car as well.
scotto
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langdon
Karl mentioned that, and fisheries bloke said it is a possibility, but apparantly that is generally reserved for illegal sale of seafood offenders.
Was interesting to hear it at the start of his show at 5am. They mustve got them nice and early. He also mentioned they were enroute to their residence to check for further limit breaches! Wonder if theres more tails hiding in their freezer....
mickconn
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Good job fisheries. Coming
Good job fisheries. Coming into OR from first pull of the season this morning there were quite a few carapace's floating in the marina not a good look. As a side dropped 4 pots yesterday, got to the first mark this morning and no pot. I had dropped them in a fairly tight grouping same conditions, same weight, same pots and one had disappeared???
randall df223
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What location? I found a
What location? I found a pot with no floats (again) yesterday. Tied my life jacket to it and reported to fisheries. Was gone this morning, so i am hoping fisheries recovered it with my extra rope and life jacket.
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petermac
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heres my trust in people
might have a wobby in it that has moved it a bit but nah some prick has messed with it
sea-kem
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Bloody hell at that age you
Bloody hell at that age you would think their moral code would be good. Good job fisheries as it sounds like they would be arrogant arseholes. Busy days for the fisheries boys.
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sphere
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Wonder how long theyve been
Wonder how long theyve been doing it for and how many others out there doing the same
sandbar
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Good to hear!
Throw the book at the pair of pricks!
Put them to work at the back of the prison making cray pots for the people who have had them stolen.
Look forward to the outcome of the residence search and then the court hearing.
keg
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happened friday morning
mate of mine was coming back into the marina and saw it happen,he reckons the old guy was trying to throw them overboard when
the fishereies approached.
they deserve all they get
little johnny
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Ouch
Going to hurt . No need for that it's a great season
C.P
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Good job Fisheries
Up em - They dont like it up em
jayce
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Just seen on facebook that
Just seen on facebook that some one was busted at Point Peron ramp this morning with 50 crays onboard and for pulling other peoples pots.
randall df223
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Top job fisheries :)
Top job fisheries :)
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this sort of news just makes
this sort of news just makes my day !!!
love it
:)
:)
Paul_86
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It is great news that they
It is great news that they are making all these busts! But makes you wonder how many people are actually out there doing the wrong thing?!
Broome lad
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Point peron
Shit now I'm worried haven't been out to my pots since Monday had to shoot up to hedland for work and won't get to them till this Monday fingers crossed they are still there .
Sillo
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Well done fisheries.A few
Well done fisheries.
A few signs with photos of this placed at the ramps should spread the idea of what happens when you do this.
ranmar850
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Hey!!!
he reckons the old guy was trying to throw them overboard 56 isn't old!! But he is still an arsehole, throw the book at them, greedy f**cks. Don't worry about the "old enough to know better, should have better morals"etc--once a pirate, always a pirate, I've known plenty of old bastards who couldn't break the habits of a lifetime--live for it, in fact.
I was direct witness to a fisheries sting once with a well-known pro fisherman up here with a big boat. It was to do with the 4.30 limit on pulling, which frankly was a PITA for us pros, because sometimes you have to move a long way in a day, and earlier you start the better. Anyway, I went out at 04.10, intending to idle down to jakes and commence at 04.30, and saw the lights of a working boat just north. He's game, I thought, and kept idling south. I just happened to have the VHF on Ch 16, because we had just got back from Port Gregory where we used it for the morning weather sched. F* all use at Kalbarri, so it was normally left off. I hear the patrol vessel identify itself, and call the boat by name. They were sitting out there dark, and watching.Turn around, and there is a light boring in, simultaneously all the lights on the target go off. Pissed ourselves. Turns out he saw them coming after they lit up, turned off all the lights and opened her up, crew were throwing off the 20 - odd pots and catch at 20 knots in the dark. Stopped when it was done, and then had to explain why they had weed and old bait all over the deck
They busted a few up this way for that--they weren't pulling others pots, just their own, for the reason I gave.The whole rule was bought in originally, I was told, due to pressure from the recco sector about other reccos pulling their pots.
keg
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lol.....
i`m nudging 50, i`ll have to remember i`m not a spring chicken anymore if i use the old fella comment :-)
Poppy
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Old bloke??
One thing I have learned over the years is that people don't become nice as they get older. Nasty young people usually become nasty old people. By the way, I'm a very nice 74 year old. Honest.
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Pmsl
Pretty funny
randall df223
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Now rather than light them
Now rather than light them up with white light, they light them with infra red light and video the whole lot without them knowing :)
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little johnny
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Broome lad
I of mine got done over. Also I of my mates. At least they left pots. Few more days mine will be coming in. Soon be holiday time. Pots seem to walk. Don't know truth but mid morn cruise craft got seized . Fisheries loading Crays in wheelie bin . A large number . Rocko
barracuda
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Maybe this
explained why I am yet to get any from Mandurah, people don't seem to learn
petermac
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old mate
old mate looks about 75 with the big fraser moored just to the port side said he caught a boat pulling 8 pots this morning of Coventry reef , has the rego number and is going to report it to fisherys he said to he was going to hang around for a bit at the ramp to see if they came in he might be 75 but he is a big solid bloke wouldn't want to be in their shoes if he gets hold of them
Lastchance
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Im seeing a pattern here
Do you have any non-tough guy stories, P-Mac? You know what they say about people that constantly reference the same thing - they are generally deficient in that area.
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Jackfrost80
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Seriously though, what are
Seriously though, what are you going to do with 81 crays. Probably giving them to friends to look good and going to get shtung for it
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Ashen
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Sell
Or sell them through the back door at some restaurants?
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meglodon
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Take a bow Fisheries for a job well done
Well done DoF it's great to see some justice catching up to these bastards.
Hopefully these busts will make big headlines in the paper and on TV. As poppy said once a thief always a thief and justice has finial caught up with them.
ranmar850
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yes, things have progressed
Now rather than light them up with white light, they light them with infra red light and video the whole lot without them knowing :) yes, If they had waited for another minute or so before turning the lights on, they would have had him :-) probably something to do with the legalities of charging around the ocean with no nav lights on , vs just sitting there
Seriously though, what are you going to do with 81 crays. Probably giving them to friends to look good and going to get shtung for it Some people can't help themselves, the take-all attitude, I call it, they just have to kill them if they can.. They should consider themselves luicky if Fisheries don't go for the commercial angle, fines and penalties rise considerably if they can prove you have been selling, and rightly so.
I have another story about lights at sea I can still alugh about. Back in 75, I was woring out of prt Licoln. We were surface trawling garfish at night with nets and booms set up each side of a 20 ft Star Boat --you picked up the school with spotties then ran through them. We did this for a while, pioneered it, then the fisheries decided we were catching whiting and banned it inside of 20 fathoms--load of crap, only bycatch was the odd squid. Anyway, we had another guy doing it, off a 23ft sharkcat, a competitor but on friendly terms. We decided to sneak out one night and do it anyway on the first beach north of Port Liccoln bay, where we thought we wouldn't be seen. Run out there dark, round the point, and therte is our competitor doing what we had intended to do
So we snuck in on him, dark, then lit him up from 100 metres away. Didn't he go!!! Lights off and full bore north. waited until he was out of sight around the corner then cleaned up the gar that were left. But the funniest part was meeting him at the ramp a few days later, keeping a straight face all the time as he regaled us with a tale of how the fisheries had chased him all the way up to Cowell before he outran them.
And had to get on a public phone ( remember them?) to ring his wife and get her to tow the trailer up there in the middle of the night to recover the boat.
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LOL
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Gold, cracker
Gold, cracker
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Good story, bet he gets
Good story, bet he gets better at telling it too
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Good story
Thanks for sharing some stories from the past! Always like reading them and all your advices on the site. Very valuable, especially for a newish boater like me! Haha
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ranmar850
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Yeh, people ask me if I have stories
A lot of stuff I considered everyday, a lot of people will just never experience, I suppose. And even keen recreational fishermen who get about to remote areas will have stories that will make non-fishermen goggle-eyed
Willy
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Yaaaay
Happy Days!!!!
Very Happy to hear that. I reckon they Fisheries will find a whole stash of crays at their residence.
Mind you, I don't think there is enough enforcement. I reckon there are a heap of people with excess crays
Willy
randall df223
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This is what should happen
This is what should happen to the boats....
A very public statement by queensland fisheries on a boat with secreted compartments to hide undersized and excess numbers of crabs
http://s300.photobucket.com/user/randallskinner/media/Mobile%20Uploads/12253642_1636577883276984_76736868_n_zpsghzp8e83.mp4.html
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little johnny
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Takes focus
Of dead fish .
randall df223
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Two completely different
Two completely different areas of fish management. Research vs Compliance. The research people will still be working hard to establish the reason for the dead fish and the compliance guys are working hard to protect our fish stocks and yours and mine catches.
Good job by both i reckon.
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jayce
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I seen they where reporting
I seen they where reporting about the dead fish on Channel Win news last night.
I was at dinner at work but so couldnt turn it up to see what they where saying. But good to see they are talking about it.
meglodon
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Worrying that the cause for the deaths still not found
It is quite concerning that the cause of the fish deaths is proving to be elusive. Lets hope that the cause can be positively identified because if it's not, how are you/we going to see that measures are put in place to do all that can be done to prevent it happening again.
The all clear has been given for water activities to resume in the sound with the caveat that you don't swim near dead fish or smelly and discoloured water.
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Apparently there is birds
Apparently there is birds killed as well, so it has to be poison in the water in Cockburn sound.
Stinks like a cover up. I heard there is going to be some independent lab tests done by someone to ensure the government isn't lying. The person reckons the fisheries are lying.
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Ranmar garfish port lincoln scare job
Ranmar, amusing story there. Was the other bloke Mal Riches ?
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great work
Always good to hear when the greedy get burnt.
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ranmar850
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No, I was on deck for Mal that night.
Other bloke was the son of a local clothing store owner, begins with W, ends with T, a Q in the middle.
So did you know Mal--I worked with him a fair bit.
Da pirate
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In the act !!!
Headed out to check our pots at 8am this
morning !! As we were arriving we seen this
runabout right on our pots ! Once they seen
us they took off north flat out and did big arc
around us then started heading south !! Why
the big loop ???? No other pots in the area just
our 4 !! 2 in one pot then blank then 4 then blank
hmmmm !!! Spoke to old bloke at ramp he reckons
his were miles off were he dropped !! Mindaire !!!
Not good fellas !! Cheers pirate
lastcast
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ranmar pm sent
As per
Notorious
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Good news story!
Good news story!
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little johnny
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Funny done same
Boat took off . All fine. I went out at 8 myself. Where he left from my pots all good today. Man not everyone in boat bad, to much crap. Could have been looking at ground . Caught in act?? Really .did he have your pots onboard . Don't think so. Crap like that gets season cut short. Photo with your pot on boat( no) photo of him pulling pot( no), man to much for me . Sorry da pirate . No evidence . Where I do my pots prob 5 to 6 diff boats. ( in similar area) If I get done so be it . There high risk not mine. Let fisheries do there job.if You got done over phone them. I thought good run would solve cray issues obviously not . Happy fishing guys. :):):):)
Da pirate
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Yeah no tissues here !!
All good Johnny !! It was my skipper that was pissed !!
I couldn't really give too shits really mate !!!
Just was bit strange !! Like you said could've been
sounding out ground but they must've sounding out
pretty quick doing 17 knots when they seen us
heading out !! I thought it was bit strange mate ??
But yeah no spilt milk ?? Roll on the 20knt arvos !! Full
pots !! Don't get too offended I always read your posts
mate ya kill it down south there !! Shame bout all your
dead pinks!! Cheers pirate !!!
Da pirate
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Fisheries !!
Was just saying what we seen mate ?? And was a bit questionable ??
Did I say they did pull our pots and we did see them do it little john and
Robin Hood !! And we caught them in the act ?? Said it was strange and the
boats movements ?? And I emailed fisheries and there gonna keep the season
open !!! Please re read the post brutha !! Keep on slaying bud !! You and ya young
fellas do really well and I always enjoy your post bud !! Happy craying and Fishin to
you mate !! Cheers pirate !!!
little johnny
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Nah not pissed
:):) :) heaps doing pots over this year can't understand it. Crays have been great. Best I have had even getting them hanging on outside on some occasions. Fisheries have got a few this year.Question do fisheries sell boats in auction. Seen nice one get towed away . Due for upgrade
Da pirate
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All good Johnny !!!
Hey bud just because bundy rums on speacial
doesnt mean ya have to drink the carton !! Ha
ha ha !! Joke mate !! Hope the Crays keep coming
for ya !! They are thick up here too this season
again too !! Bloody madness thou everyone has
cray fever !!! !! Cheers mate pirate !!
Karak
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Take their superannuation
Take their superannuation away.
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Love the funny stories above
Will start an OP about the most comical thing I ever saw/did fishing/diving.
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little johnny
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Good this morn
Fisheries hanging around out from peron in boat this morn . Keeping eye out no dought. My mate lost pot. Bit sad . My pots not touched happy camper. :):):)
Walfootrot
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"my mate lost pot" not 1 of
"my mate lost pot" not 1 of mine?????
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
little johnny
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No Peter
Ian's.:(:(. Good pro pot
Walfootrot
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That sux, after all the work
That sux, after all the work the boys put into it....
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
jayce
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Any body hear about the boat
Any body hear about the boat that went over 3km of Mandurah last night?
Hit by a wave.
Strange time of night to be around that area when you cant fish for demersals.
Bit Suss.
sea-kem
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Karma at work maybe
Karma at work maybe
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meglodon
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Nah you have all got suspicious minds
Who would be up to no good in that weather at that time of night.
just out doing a bit of whiting fishing fellas...honest.
little johnny
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Moonlight cruise. Maybe
Moonlight cruise. Maybe
RhondaLee
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Fisheries are onto it!
Had our pots cleaned out a number of times so far this season, you have to check every day and hope for the best. Fisheries appear to be doing a really good job and there are pot raiders out there under surveillance that don't even know it yet! Harsher penalties and lose their boat .... as for pot raiding divers .... another balll game unfortunately .... maybe a nice big noah to give them a scare!
saltatrix
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Thats commercial poaching,
Thats commercial poaching, not a mistake or a minor crime. 80 crays should be a life time fishing licence ban
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