Burke again begging for support on marine parks - we are plundering the ocean!
Here's the latest email our esteemed Environment Minister just put out. I find it a tad offensive that he suggests that voting Liberal means you are voting for a future of "plundering the oceans".
Hi,
You have previously written to me regarding the Government’s network of marine reserves.
Labor has created the World’s largest network of marine parks around Australia to protect our precious oceans.
Earlier this month a plan by the Liberal Party to stop these marine parks failed in the House of Representatives. But the Liberal Party has again moved to stop those marine national parks in the Senate.
Senator Richard Colbeck - who was also the principle advocate in the Parliament for the super trawler - has moved to disallow the marine national park management plans in the Senate.
This is the final hurdle for our marine parks.
In the next 15 Senate sitting days, members of the Senate will vote on whether to protect our precious oceans, from the Coral Sea to the South West marine region.
I know many of you have been campaigning for ocean protection for many, many years. This final hurdle is crucial
Can you share this email with your friends and family? The best thing we can do to protect our oceans is make sure as many people as possible know about Tony Abbott’s and Richard Colbeck’s plans to scrap marine parks.
Labor will be voting to protect the environment.
Under John Howard, the Liberal Party used to support protecting the ocean in this way and implemented marine national parks in the Great Barrier Reef and the south east of our oceans and rejected a super trawler proposal.
Under Tony Abbott, the Liberals and Nationals want to say no to anything that involves protecting the oceans. They want to abolish national parks in the oceans and invite the super trawler back as soon as they can.
They have even moved to abolish the management plan for the one marine national park which was established under the Howard Government.
There are two futures on offer at the upcoming federal election: Tony Abbott’s is about plundering the oceans, ours will protect them.
Share this email with your friends and family, and we can ensure that our oceans are protected forever.
Yours sincerely,
Tony Burke
Wazo
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Dear Tony
Its time......
F@#$ Off.....
And take your Ranga with you
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+ 1000
+ 1000
I've spent half my life fishing.. The other half I have wasted..
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Ha ha I just posted this
Ha ha I just posted this email in another thread Scotty. Bloody arrogant prick he is.
Love the West!
pale ale
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Why dont they concentrate on
Why dont they concentrate on the real issues??? FAILURES!!
Durrisbeast
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fact
Politics aside, the proposed Commonwealth marine parks aren't going to have any impact on rec fishers whatsoever. What is the problem?
scottywiper
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Whatsoever eh? Trench, Geo
Whatsoever eh? Trench, Geo Bay?
And try this report that says some 75% of the spots they want protected aren't yet. You might recognise some known locations in there...
Critical Gaps
In total we have identified 33 locations that are priorities for increased protection within the
proposed marine sanctuary network (Figure 1). For each location we describe below the
conservation objectives that would be achieved by their inclusion within the network.
1. Wallaby Saddle
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of deeper demersal slope fish communities.
2. Protection of the only escarpment habitats mapped within the South-west planning region.
2. Kalbarri
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of demersal slope fish communities. In particular:
a. The only shallow upper slope pinnacle habitats in the Central Western Province.
b. The only shelf edge pinnacle habitats in the Central Western Province.
c. Important samples of the upper slope and shelf edge habitats of the Central
Western Province.
d. Important samples of the deep upper slope, shallow mid slope, and shallow upper
slope habitats on the Carnarvon Terrace.
e. Important samples of the seascapes of the Central Western Province.
f. Important samples of fish and invertebrate community structures in the Central
Western Province.
3. Northern Abrolhos
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the Western Rock Lobster broodstock.
2. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Australian lesser noddy feeding grounds.
b. Common noddy feeding grounds.
c. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
d. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
e. Roseate tern feeding grounds.
f. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
g. Bridled tern feeding grounds.
3. Protection of the iconic Abrolhos Islands system particularly:
a. Protection of bank/shoal habitats within the Abrolhos Islands and Central West
Coast bioregions
b. Protection of slope habitats within the Abrolhos Islands bioregion.
c. Protection of reef habitats within the Abrolhos Islands bioregion.
d. Protection of pinnacle habitats within the Abrolhos Islands bioregion.
e. Protection of shallower channel habitats within the Abrolhos Islands and Central
West Coast bioregions.
f. Protection of the seascapes of the Abrolhos Islands, Central West Coast and
Central Western Province bioregions.
g. Protection of fish and invertebrate assemblages of the Abrolhos Islands and
Central West Coast bioregions.
h. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures in the Abrolhos Islands
and Central West Coast bioregions.
4. Protection of the pinnacle habitats of the northern Rottnest slope.
5. Protection of the shallow shelf bathome and deeper bank/shoal habitats on the iconic
Rottnest shelf.
6. Protection of demersal slope fish communities within the Central Western Province,
Abrolhos Islands and Central West Coast bioregions.
4. Eastern Abrolhos
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the iconic Abrolhos Islands system particularly:
a. Protection of reef apron habitats in the Abrolhos Islands bioregion.
b. Protection of reef habitats in the Abrolhos Islands bioregion.
c. Protection of the seascapes of the Abrolhos Islands and Central West Coast
bioregions.
d. Protection of the fish and invertebrate assemblages of the Abrolhos Islands and
Central West Coast bioregions.
2. Protection of west coast inshore lagoons.
3. Protection and replication of western rock lobster habitats at the northern end of their
range within the planning region.
4. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
c. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
5. Protection of humpback whale resting habitats.
6. Protection of the iconic Rottnest shelf.
7. Protection of feeding grounds for male Australian sea lions.
5. Abrolhos Canyons
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of Houtman Canyon.
2. Protection of the West Coast Canyons.
3. Protection of demersal slope fish communities.
4. Protection of eddy related habitats.
5. Protection biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Australian lesser noddy feeding grounds.
b. Common noddy feeding grounds.
c. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
d. Roseate tern feeding grounds.
e. Wedge-tailed shearwater feeding grounds.
f. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
g. Sooty tern feeding grounds.
6. Protection of the fish and invertebrate community structures and seascapes of the Central
Western Province bioregion.
6. Abrolhos Abyssal
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the Perth abyssal plain and continental rise.
2. Protection of sooty tern feeding grounds.
3. Protection of the seascapes of the Central Western Province bioregion
7. Southern Abrolhos
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the iconic Abrolhos Islands system including:
a. Protection of deeper channel habitats within the Abrolhos Islands and Central
West Coast bioregions.
b. Protection of deeper shelf habitats within the Abrolhos Islands bioregion.
c. Protection of shallower bank/shoal habitats within the Central West Coast
bioregion.
d. Protection of the only pinnacles mapped on the Rottnest shelf.
e. Protection of the seascapes of the Abrolhos Islands and Central West Coast
bioregions.
f. Protection of the fish and invertebrate assemblages of the Abrolhos Islands and
Central West Coast bioregions.
g. Protection of the invertebrate assemblages of the Abrolhos Islands and Central
West Coast bioregions.
2. Protection of the Western Rock Lobster broodstock.
3. Protection of demersal slope fish communities in Central Western Province and Central
West Coast bioregions.
4. Protection of biologically important areas seabird including:
a. Australian lesser noddy feeding grounds.
b. Bridled tern feeding grounds.
c. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
d. Common noddy feeding grounds.
e. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
f. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
5. Protection of humpback whale resting areas.
8. Beagle Island
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the WA west coast population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
2. Protection of west coast inshore lagoons.
3. Protection of the iconic Rottnest shelf.
4. Protection and replication of western rock lobster habitats from the middle of its range.
5. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
c. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
d. Roseate tern feeding grounds.
6. Protection of the fish and invertebrate assemblages and seascapes of the Central West
Coast bioregion.
9. North Jurien
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the WA west coast population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
2. Protection of the iconic Rottnest shelf.
3. Protection and replication of western rock lobster habitats from the middle of its range.
4. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Common noddy feeding grounds.
c. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
d. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
e. Roseate tern feeding grounds.
5. Protection of the fish and invertebrate assemblages and seascapes of the Central West
Coast bioregion.
10. South Jurien
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the WA west coast population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
2. Protection of the iconic Rottnest shelf.
3. Protection of slope habitats within the Central West Coast bioregion.
4. Protection and replication of western rock lobster habitats from the middle of its range.
5. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Common noddy feeding grounds.
c. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
d. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
e. Roseate tern feeding grounds.
6. Protection of the fish and invertebrate assemblages and seascapes of the Central West
Coast bioregion.
11. Perth Canyon
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the iconic Perth Canyon.
2. Protection of endangered blue whale feeding grounds.
3. Protection of sperm whale feeding grounds.
4. Protection of the west coast canyons.
5. Protection of eddy related habitats.
6. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Wedge-tailed shearwater feeding grounds.
b. Soft-plumaged petrel feeding grounds.
c. Pre-migration aggregation area for fleshy-footed shearwaters.
d. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
e. Common noddy feeding grounds.
7. Protection of demersal slope fish communities in the Central Western Province and
Central West Coast bioregions.
8. Protection of the only pinnacle habitats on the mid slope of the Central Western Province.
9. Protection of the only Australian pinnacle habitats to be mapped on the continental rise.
10. Protection of the pinnacle habitats of the southern Rottnest slope.
11. Protection of the bank/shoal habitats and shelf edge pinnacle habitats of the Leeuwin-
Naturaliste bioregion.
12. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and assemblages, and seascapes
of the Central West Coast, Leeuwin-Naturaliste, Central Western Province and Southwest
Transition bioregions.
12. Perth Abyss
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the Perth abyssal plain and continental rise.
2. Protection of feeding grounds for the sooty tern.
3. Protection of the seascapes of the Central Western Province bioregion.
13. Rottnest
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of west coast inshore lagoons.
2. Ensure connectivity between proposed marine sanctuaries on the shelf.
3. Protection of feeding grounds for male Australian sea lions.
4. Protection of the iconic Rottnest Shelf.
5. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
c. Roseate tern feeding grounds.
6. Protection of the fish and invertebrate assemblages and seascapes of the Central West
Coast bioregion.
14.Geographe Bay
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the seagrass beds, biodiversity and nursery habitats of the iconic Geographe
Bay.
2. Protection of endangered blue whale resting habitats.
3. Protection and replication of western rock lobster habitats in the south of its range.
4. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Little penguin feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
c. Fleshy-footed shearwater pre-migration aggregation sites.
5. Protection of the fish and invertebrate assemblages and seascapes of the Leeuwin-
Naturaliste bioregion.
15. Cape Naturaliste
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the seagrass beds, biodiversity and nursery habitats of the iconic Geographe
Bay.
2. Protection of blue and humpback whale resting habitats.
3. Protection of western rock lobster habitats in the south of its range.
4. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Bridled tern feeding grounds.
b. Fleshy-footed shearwater pre-migration aggregation sites.
c. Pacific gull former feeding grounds.
5. Protection of the Leeuwin-Naturaliste bioregion including important samples of:
a. Reef habitats.
b. Deeper shelf habitats.
c. Deep shelf pinnacle habitats.
d. Seascapes.
e. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
f. Fish and invertebrate community structures.
6. Protection of the seascapes of the Southwest Transition bioregion.
16. Offshore Capes
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of feeding grounds and migratory pathways for endangered blue whales.
2. Protection of the Southwest Transition bioregion including important samples of:
a. Deeper pinnacle habitats.
b. Deeper canyon habitats.
c. Slope habitats.
d. Terrace habitats.
e. Trench and trough habitats.
f. Seascapes.
g. Fish and invertebrate community structures.
3. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Soft-plumaged petrel feeding grounds.
b. Sooty tern feeding grounds.
17. Mentelle
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the Cape Mentelle upwelling.
2. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and assemblages, seascapes,
slope and terrace habitats within the Leeuwin-Naturaliste bioregion.
3. Protection and replication of western rock lobster habitats in the south of its range.
4. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and seascapes within the
Southwest Transition bioregion.
18. Cape Leeuwin
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of humpback whale resting habitats.
2. Protection of sperm whale feeding grounds.
3. Protection of Gardener Canyon, one of the iconic Albany canyons.
4. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Bridled tern feeding grounds.
b. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
c. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
d. Fleshy-footed shearwater feeding grounds.
e. Little penguin feeding grounds.
f. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
g. Indian yellow-nosed albatross feeding grounds.
5. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and assemblages, seascapes, and
slope and terrace habitats within the Leeuwin-Naturaliste bioregion.
6. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures, seascapes, canyon and slope
habitats within the South-west Transition bioregion.
7. Protection of predictable eddy generation regions.
19. WA South Coast
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of sperm whale feeding grounds.
2. Protection of D’Entrecastreaux canyon, one of the iconic Albany canyons.
3. Protection of resting habitats for humpback whales.
4. Protection of the Southern Province, Leeuwin-Naturaliste and WA South Coast
bioregions including important samples of:
a. Shallower pinnacle habitats.
b. Reef habitats.
c. Shallower shelf habitats.
d. Shallower slope habitats.
e. Seascapes.
f. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
g. Fish and invertebrate community structures.
5. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Indian yellow-nosed albatross feeding grounds.
b. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
c. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
d. Fleshy-footed shearwater feeding grounds.
e. Little penguin feeding grounds.
f. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
g. Bridled tern feeding grounds.
20. Parryville
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of sperm whale feeding grounds.
2. Protection of Wilson Canyon, one of the iconic Albany canyons.
3. Protection of Parryville Spur.
4. Protection of Indian yellow-nosed albatross feeding grounds.
5. Protection of invertebrate community structures in the Southern Province.
21. Fitzgerald
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of southern right whale breeding habitat.
2. Protection of feeding grounds for the threatened white shark.
3. Protection of the WA south coast population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
4. Protection of Sperm whale feeding grounds.
5. Protection of Bremer and Pallinup canyons, two of the iconic Albany canyons.
6. Maintaining connectivity between marine sanctuaries on the shelf.
7. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and assemblages, seascapes, and
shelf habitats within the WA South Coast bioregion.
8. Protection of important seabird habitats including:
a. Bridled tern feeding grounds.
b. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
c. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
d. Fleshy-footed shearwater feeding grounds.
e. Little penguin feeding grounds.
f. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
g. Indian yellow-nosed albatross feeding grounds.
22. Swan
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of Swan Canyon, one of the iconic Albany canyons.
2. Protection of male and female feeding grounds for the WA south coast Australian sea lion
population.
3. Protection of fleshy-footed shearwater feeding grounds.
4. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and assemblages, and seascapes
within the WA South Coast bioregion.
23. Western Recherche
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the WA south coast population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
2. Protection of the iconic Recherche Archipelago.
3. Protection of likely feeding habitats for the threatened white shark.
4. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Bridled tern feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
c. Fleshy-footed shearwater feeding grounds.
5. Protection of the WA South Coast bioregion including important samples of:
a. Reef habitats.
b. Pinnacle habitats.
c. The shallow shelf to deep shelf transition bathome.
d. Seascapes.
e. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
f. Fish and invertebrate community structures.
24. Eastern Recherche
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of southern right whale breeding grounds.
2. Protection of Malcolme Canyon, one of the iconic Albany canyons.
3. Protection of the WA south coast population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
4. Protection of the iconic Recherche Archipelago.
5. Protection of eddy related habitats.
6. Protection of biologically important areas for seabirds including:
a. Black-faced cormorant feeding grounds.
b. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
c. Fairy tern feeding grounds.
d. Fleshy-footed shearwater feeding grounds.
e. Little penguin feeding grounds.
f. Pacific gull feeding grounds.
g. Short-tailed shearwater feeding grounds.
h. Little shearwater feeding grounds.
i. White-faced storm petrel feeding grounds.
7. Protection of likely feeding, pupping and high density habitats for the threatened white
shark.
8. Protection of the Southern Province, WA South Coast, and Eucla bioregions including
important samples of:
a. Shelf habitats.
b. Terrace habitats.
c. Shelf commencing canyons.
d. Slope hills.
e. Seascapes.
f. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
g. Fish and invertebrate community structures.
25. Western Great Australian Bight
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the iconic Great Australian Bight.
2. Protection of likely feeding, pupping and high density habitats for the threatened white
shark.
3. Protection of the Eucla bioregion including important samples of:
a. Shelf habitats.
b. Terrace habitats.
c. Seascapes.
d. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
e. Invertebrate community structures.
4. Maintenance of connectivity between marine sanctuaries on the shelf.
5. Protection of feeding grounds for little penguins.
26. Head of the Bight
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of southern right whale breeding habitat.
2. Protection of the South Australian population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
3. Protection of likely feeding, pupping and high density habitats for the threatened white
shark.
4. Protection of the iconic Eastern Great Australian Bight.
5. Protection of the Eucla bioregion including important samples of:
a. Reef habitats.
b. Shelf habitats.
c. Terrace habitats.
d. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
e. Invertebrate community structures.
27. Eastern Great Australian Bight
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the iconic Eastern Great Australian Bight.
2. Protection of the Southern Province and deeper shelf habitats within the Eucla bioregion
including important samples of:
a. Deeper shelf habitats.
b. Terrace habitats.
c. Seascapes.
d. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
e. Fish and invertebrate community structures.
3. Protection of feeding grounds for the South Australian population of the threatened
Australian sea lion.
4. Protection of likely blue and sperm whale feeding grounds.
28. Murat
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of reef, shallower shelf habitats, invertebrate community structures, fish and
invertebrate assemblages, and seascapes in the Murat bioregion.
29. Nuyts
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the South Australian population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
2. Protection of known feeding grounds for the threatened white shark.
3. Protection of the Eyre Peninsula upwelling system.
4. Protection of the iconic Eastern Great Australian Bight.
5. Protection of likely feeding grounds for blue whales.
6. Protection of the Murat and Eyre bioregions.
7. Maintenance of connectivity between marine sanctuaries on the shelf.
8. Protection of biologically important seabird habitats including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. White-faced storm petrel feeding grounds.
30. Streaky Bay
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the South Australian population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
2. Protection of likely feeding, pupping and high density habitats for the threatened white
shark.
3. Protection of the Eyre Peninsula upwelling system.
4. Protection of shallower shelf habitats, invertebrate community structures, and fish and
invertebrate assemblages within the Eyre bioregion.
5. Protection of biologically important seabird habitats including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds and migration route.
c. Little penguin feeding grounds.
31. Investigator
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of the South Australian population of the threatened Australian sea lion.
2. Protection of known feeding grounds for the threatened white shark.
3. Protection of the Eyre Peninsula upwelling system.
4. Protection of biologically important seabird habitats including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds and migration route.
c. Little penguin feeding grounds.
d. White-faced storm petrel feeding grounds
5. Protection of shallower shelf habitats, invertebrate community assemblages, fish and
invertebrate assemblages, and seascapes within the Eyre bioregion.
32. Western Eyre Peninsula
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of known feeding grounds for the endangered blue whale.
2. Protection of likely feeding grounds for sperm whales.
3. Protection of white-faced storm petrel feeding grounds.
4. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and terrace habitats within the
Southern Province.
5. Protection of fish and invertebrate community structures and seascapes within the Eyre
bioregion.
33. Kangaroo Island
Conservation Objectives:
1. Protection of known feeding grounds for the endangered blue whale.
2. Protection of likely feeding grounds for sperm whales.
3. Protection of the iconic Kangaroo Island Canyons.
4. Protection of the iconic Kangaroo Island Pool upwelling system.
5. Protection of biologically important seabird habitats including:
a. Caspian tern feeding grounds.
b. Fairy tern feeding grounds and migration route.
c. White-faced storm petrel feeding grounds.
d. Short-tailed shearwater feeding grounds.
6. Protection of the Southern Province and Eyre bioregions including important samples of:
a. Shelf commencing canyons.
b. Shelf habitats.
c. Seascapes.
d. Fish and invertebrate assemblages.
e. Fish and invertebrate community structures
pale ale
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sounds like a lot of popular
sounds like a lot of popular spots there
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Guarantee that's not the case
Guarantee that's not the case in SA - a friend running a charter off Streaky Bay has his two main seamounts included in the sanctuary zones will impact him to no end
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meglodon
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start the count down tony
when your time is up, your time is up
squidder
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Absolutely
burkes mob got in by default and will be gone by derfault a lot earlier by the carryings on amidst the ranks.
Igot my pencil sharpened and ready to go
Durrisbeast
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Date Joined: 26/09/10
zones
yeah but the actual marine national park zones (green zones) in those areas are tiny, it is only in these zones where you are not allowed to rec fish. The rest is still open unless you want to mine oil and gas or fish commercially. As someone who loves to fish it makes sense to protect the marine environment and even have small areas where fish can grow without pressure and then leave to become my pb or dinner.
Howard George
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You Might Well Be right Durrisbeast If Only
The proposed sanctuary zones Durrisbeast haven't been fully researched and to assume that fish will stay in the green areas to grow bigger is fraught with danger especially when we know damn well that the most popular species we target and also the most threatened move around chasing food and habitat. They might be demersals but they still move about and until thorough research has been done on individual species everything could go horribly wrong in a very short period of time.All we've ever asked for is proper consultation but the Govts. have a different agenda deciding to cater to Green activist groups and ignore fishermen.There is nothing more frustrating knowing that something is not right and not being given the opportunity to voice our concerns and thats why we keep asking to see the science because we know it hasn't been done.
Durrisbeast
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blowies
obviously fish move around and consultation is important but regardless of any unproven fisheries science I don't think this is a big issue and better to have some protection than none. Its not all about us rec fishers. I get more upset with a norwest blowie than a small sanctuary zone. Still release them alive though...maybe I'm too soft.
Justin M
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Fair enough but personally I
Fair enough but personally I think its a big issue, as I have big concerns when psuedo science..or green ideology is used at a Federal level to make decisions like these. Your right, its not all about us rec fishers but also about the communities that rely on fishing both recreationally and commercially. What's to stop the government and the Greens right here, particularly when you have what scottywiper posted above, going helter skelter trying to tie up more and more spots under some misguided notion of conservation. Fishos in generally are conservationists as we love our sport and want future generations to be able to catch fish and enjoy the marine environment umolested by interferring Green types like PEW...they are in contact with the environment intimately
Whilst I am unsure how to put it in words...I guess that we are better connected and clued in than the arm chair sorts that are so detached from the whole process who think that some green zones are marked on the map will 'save the oceans from plunder'. Plenty of proven fishing grounds for commercial fisherman that will get cut off from, send them to the wall and have Australia import even greater levels of crap they call fish from unsustainable fishing industries overseas. Australian fisheries IMO and its also the view of others too are well managed without blocking off massive areas of the ocean from everyone, forever. Far bigger problems facing the worlds oceans than what rec and commercial fishers are doing, such as climate change, rampant growth of industries along key water ways and oceans. That's how I see the whole thing,
sea-kem
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Ah well we can all just sit
Ah well we can all just sit around,do nothing and watch the green movement tie up large swaths of the coast. Because at the end of the day that's what they want. They'd have us all swinging form trees eating bannanas if they really got their way.It's the apathetic approach like yours Durrisbeast that the green groups love. Less fight they win the day. The pricks have gotten their way in this round due to political greed but that will hopefully end soon. Even though I can't stand Abbott if his policies are sound on this issue then I'd be inclined to vote Liberal.
Love the West!
big john
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Spot on
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squidder
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Durrisbeast
, your apathetic attitude is how we anglers will lose parts of "OUR" ocean to fish in freely. Maybe your a wolf in disguise??????
As far as Abbots pledge to overturn Marine Park legislation IF it goes ahead will remain to be seen after the forthcoming election.
As for recreational damage to fish stocks stated by green groups is a load of codswollop. They, Greens, have taken us on because we are easier prey than the commercial groups and usually far less organised.
We recs must stay diligent on this matter to retain what belongs to all of us.
Willlo
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snappermiles
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theres one problem with what your saying Durrisbeast
they start small then they expand! untill we have nowhere to fish! the greens have already told us this! once there in they will pressure the government into making them bigger an bigger untill we have know where to fish! the same is happening on the land soon we will have nowhere to 4wd!
ALL FISHERMEN ARE LIARS EXCEPT YOU AND ME! AND IM NOT SO SURE ABOUT YOU!
Durrisbeast
Posts: 12
Date Joined: 26/09/10
Not sure
not sure about being an apathetic banana munching wolfman, maybe just a different opinion. Anyway enough about that, your beloved Ranga is gone and now you have to decide between two of the biggest dickheads ever to run the country. Now I am apathetic about that.
sea-kem
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Well you just argued the
Well you just argued the point that there's no problem. So are you a rec fisher or a troll?
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squidder
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Date Joined: 03/09/10
Honestly Durrisbeast
Come CLEAN and tell us on what side of the fence you wish to be.....no point talking peronalities and politics as they will do what the numbers tell them.
Durrisbeast
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Date Joined: 26/09/10
eh?
Sea-kem, If you think I am being a "troll" discussing marine parks on a fishing forum titled politics and environment then you need to look at the definition more closely. Don't get angry its just a different opinion. And I'm pretty sure Commonwealth Marine Parks won't impact on your lb herring fishing unless you have a very big cast.
sea-kem
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Who said I'm angry? I'm just
Who said I'm angry? I'm just asking you a question. As Willo Said what 10 posts in 2 yrs and 40 weeks makes me think your just a hit and run member = troll. So answer my question are you a fisho or what? If a fisho then surely you have some corcerns if not then don't squeel when it finally starts to impact you.
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Willlo
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Member for 2 yrs 39 weeks,for
Member for 2 yrs 39 weeks,for 10 posts,surely you must have followed previous debate re the subject mate.looks to me like you are having a bit of a stir.That said agree with Snappermiles,give them an inch and they will take a mile(The greens and politically correct that is).You have have to draw a line or pretty soon you will be doing your fishing on a play station.
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squidder
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Land based
herring fishing is not the issue here Durrisbeast and I'm sure you must realise this.
Personally, I think you are trolling hoping to see if us anglers are an apathetic lot.