Booze and boating

Hey guys,

Just wondering what people's views are on drinking alcohol while out boating. I'm not talking charter trips but fishing/drinking on private recreational vessels.

Personally I leave the drinking and partying for when I've returned to dry land. I'd rather be 100% switched on when out on the water, especially as I'm usually the skipper.

What thoughts have you?

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Me too

Sat, 2006-10-07 19:23

Those who have fished with me know I am strictly tee total until I hit dry land. I can't afford to stuff up out there when I am skipper. The weather can turn in a minute and its a long way home in a cross swell and choppy seas. I prefer to be totally sober.

Now back on dry land I'll neck a couple of beers as soon as the boat is back in the driveway.

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I don't see anything wrong

Sat, 2006-10-07 22:00

I don't see anything wrong with the skipper having a couple of 'light' beers but anything other than that is a definate NO NO - unless your not driving of course ;))

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DRINKING & DRIVING AT SEA

Sun, 2006-10-08 01:51

I'm with you guys on this subject, no difference between driving on the sea or on the bitchumen.The last trip to Onslow had myself and my crew pulled over by the local boys in blue.I was breathe tested luckily I only had 2 mid strenth beers all day 0.00 was the reading,as one would expect,we had only left the boat ramp when pulled up.Play it safe, dont drink and drive it's not worth the risk trust me.

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Exactly

Sun, 2006-10-08 12:01

As a skipper my legal limit is 0.0

I just don't like to drink on the job, & like Andy love a cold beer on a hot day, when the fishings over, the boats cleaned & tied up and I'm on dry land!

I think fishing & boating are a lot of fun but both require you to be in full control of your faculties to get the full enjoyment - why dull your snses when your having fun, by consuming exess alcohol so you can't get the full enjoyment? Just doesn't make sense IMHO.

Lastly - your survival time immersed (i.e. after everythings gone to hell in a handbasket) if your under the influence - is drammatically shortened... Retaining your core body temp is the vital thing to surviving immersion hypothermia......and of course alcohol - makes you pee, which takes all that body heat from your warm utrine in your bladder, and puts it out in the ocean - leaving your core body temp chilled...or you that many degrees core body temp drop, closer to death from hypothermia, rather than rescue.

When your in the water - waiting for rescue - you don't pee - it's that simple!

1. It attractcts sharks
2. It lowers your core body temp
3. It dehydrates you as well

These 3 things will kill you and alcohol just allows them to do it faster! When your in the water awaiting rescue, you want to extend your survival time by preserving core body temp. As your skipper I'm trained to show you techniques to do that! I am responsible for your survival.

If you drink Alcohol on my boat (particularly to excess) I know that in an immersion life and death situation - I simply can't help you, so - I'll invest my efforts and energys into saving those who aren't under the influence!

Sometimes those life and death situations are decided on the boat before trouble strikes! Your socking them back - I'm telling you to ease off - and your thinking, I'm just a wowser - while I'm deciding whether your lifes worth saving, later in the day should the need arise...

Yep - you can be the hero drunk on the boat - but you'll soon be the dead drunk in the water, and I won't be batting an eyelid over blowing up (inflating) your dead corpse to float others - or pushing you outta the circle to feed the sharks first if it's your urine that attracted them.

In a bad situation - thats how the decisions will be made by me of who lives and who dies in order to preserve the lives of others!

It's not just the drink driving laws / limits on the water, it's the fact - likely you won't survive an immersion event...thats the REAL reason not to drink at sea!

Cheers!

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Short & sweet,I drink on my

Sun, 2006-10-08 14:57

Short & sweet,I drink on my boat and I have no prob's with that, I'm a safe boaty & skipper.....everything in moderation!

A safe knowledgable skipper that has a few drinks is safer than an in experienced skipper that's sober JMO ;)

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Mon, 2006-10-09 00:01

I can't condone drinking strong alcoholic drinks on a trailer boat as you will go from a drunk sailor to a drunk driver ( with a big heavy boat in tow) as soon as you load your boat on a trailer and head home.

Remember there is a law , called duty of care , you are responsible for your actions .

Drink sensibly (1 standard drink an hour) and your fine to do what ever you like.

There is a label on the side of the bottle stating how many standard drinks are in every drink , check it before you drink it.

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Drinking & Boating

Mon, 2006-10-09 09:17

I'm not even that much of a fan of drinking out on the boat as a passenger. Maybe every now and then I do like to indulge and have a few, but more times than not I prefer just to wait until back to shore. I find that drinking out in the boat really knocks me around after a long day out at sea and as for the safety aspect, if something did happen it diminishes your ability to survive and your decision making processes IMO.

I have been on plenty of boats and quite a few have a dry boat rule, certainly not a problem by me. But every now and then a coldy on the way in is a great way to top off a day of fishing, up to the skipper really.

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High Swell boat handling

Mon, 2007-04-09 17:40

Hi Guys

Just started boating this month. I have got a 5.5 mtr Carribean Crestrunner. Wondering if you guys can give me some tips on handling rough seas. What are your technics to try and keep the trip as comfertable as possible?

Cheers

Baz

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increased caution!

Mon, 2007-04-09 17:55

To help clear some things up, as said anything in moderation is ok.

My partner is studying pshychology at present, and one current subject is drug dependancy! She has read studies by the man who invented the breathalizer. It was found that when looking at the percentage of people who have car accidents in terms of those who have had a drink or two and are under 0.05 and those people who havent had a drink what so ever. There were more cases of accidents caused by those people not drinking. This is due to the fact that the peolpe who have had a drink tend to be more cautious, slowing down to tack extra precautions while driving knowing full well that there judgement might be slightly impaired.

This is based on fact!

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Personaly!

Mon, 2007-04-09 17:58

Personaly however I prefer not too drink when at sea as I have a hard enough time not throwing my guts up with out the extra help. However if in close proximaty to shore or going down the river I dont mind having a few as long as within the limits. As said especially when you have to tow your rig back home and if anything more at danger of injuring or killing someone.

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Boating

Mon, 2007-04-09 19:06

Saw my first bogging for the tourist season at work today. Guy in a relatively new BMW x5 trying to launch a hire boat from the Bundegi ramp. He was bogged down to the subframe and wasn't going anywhere fast until we lent a few locals our snatch strap to help him out. Looked like he'd been digging for a good half hour. Good thing for them was that it was low tide and a few people about.

The real issue was that it was blowing 25 knots s.easterly and they wanted to go out in a 14 ft hire tinny. There were waves breaking on the reef which should have been enough indication that it was going to be a horrible day out there and relatively dangerous. Bit worried about what the local hire operators are telling these guys and the fact that they want to get their value for money and are willing to go out in potentially treacherous conditions. I was going to take a photo of the bog, but they were already embarrassed enough with a crowd of onlookers. They did end up coughing up a 6 pack for the retrieval services, so, all was good. Sure there will be plenty more before the end of season.

Hiya Baz,
Have you done your RST yet out of interest? Theres a few tips on how to handle your boat depending upon sea and swell direction. Sure a few of the boys could help out thou.

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i dont condone major drinking

Mon, 2007-04-09 19:18

hey guys i dont suggest drinking lots on the boat but i do have a couple. ussualy i have a drink the first decent fish brought aboard is tie to crack one open. never do i drink s much that i go over the limit. not worthy. i dont stop people having a couple on my boat just not getting smashed. ussually there is one with the first fish one every now and then and on on the way in. as for fisho baz the best way to head in on a decent swell or sea is to take it easy i tend to laod the back of the boat with my ice box and tackle keeping it heavier at the back nice steady pace. dont fly home in a hurry. you will feel your boat cruising nicely by moving your trim up or down and once you find it stay with it. main point is nice and steady no hurry you will feel it after a few trys. but guys my boat is a no drunk policy a couple is fine drunks not aloud

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i recon boats and beers were

Tue, 2007-04-10 10:02

i recon boats and beers were made for each other, nothin better thenn havn few beers while pulling up some wrasse

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I generally have a few if

Tue, 2007-04-10 12:02

I generally have a few if avail but tend to consentrate on fishing on water and drinking on dry land! Charter boats are a different matter though and i have alittle more to make the day enjoyable a bit more, but never pissed! get pissed and drive your a bluddy idiot, make it home then your only a f*#ken hero!lol.

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hahhah tell me about it

Wed, 2007-04-11 15:36

hahhah tell me about it spess i just got done for dd by driving home from palm beach jetty lol no fish and plenty of beers dusnt mix...thatll lern me