boat regos
Submitted by petermac on Tue, 2016-05-03 19:24
I had my car rego , motorcycle rego , boat trailer rego and boat rego all come in within a fortnight of each other , why is there a rego payment option that of 3 , 6 and 12 months for the car, motorbike and boat trailer and no option option on boat rego you have to pay a full 12 months when it comes to boat rego , i can pay the full 12 months but it must be hard for those on struggle street , and why are we still paying for a sticker to put on our boats when we dont have one on our cars these days ????
Rob H
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Took the stickers off cars,
Took the stickers off cars, save $2.50 which wasnt even passed on but gained alot more on expired rego fines.
Id rather have a sticker, maybe a third of the size it was and non compulsory.
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Jackfrost80
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I get email and sms
I get email and sms reminders from DoT when my regos are up as well as the renewal bill with the date on it. No excuse to miss your payments and I wish they'd also do away with the sticker for the boat.
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Rob H
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None of that helps say
None of that helps say someone driving a rental or company vehicle or ANY vehicle that belongs to someone else.
Log on to check and a big note comes up "this information is not guaranteed".
Yes you can still check online, if you have a smartphone etc.
Stickers should be essential at least for any business registered car, not for Police to view but drivers.
Boats and cars private, supplied small sticker but voluntary.
What about older people who dont go online, or are getting forgetful?
Ever rented a car?
Did you jump online and check it was registered?
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Jackfrost80
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online.transport.wa.gov.au/w
online.transport.wa.gov.au/webExternal/registration/ or ring DoT on 13 11 56 for the technically unadvanced. It actually says "The Information provided is current at the time of this enquiry."
Pretty simple, if you are driving a vehicle that doesn't belong to you the onus is on YOU to make sure the car is roadworthy, registered and that the comprehensive insurance will cover you if you cause damage to it or another car or property.
Who's to say a car rental company didn't slip on a new rego sticker meant for another car because it was a few days out of rego and they needed to hire you that particular car.
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Rob H
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no it actually
no it actually says
"Transport is not responsible for how this information is interpreted or used. It is the responsibility of the vehicle owner to determine whether the vehicle should be driven."
I get why you dont want a sticker (I think) but I dont get why you dont want anyone else to have a sticker either on my car or my grannies car or a commercial hire car etc?
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Jackfrost80
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Now you're just playing silly
Now you're just playing silly buggers because you well know that's what it says after you search the plate.
Rego stickers were (and are on boats as I questioned DoT recently) only ever a means of allowing the authorities aka the Police to quickly identify if a vehicle is licenced. With on board computers and licence plate recognition devices they are no longer required by Police are an extra cost to taxpayers are a pain in the arse to vehicles owners to swap over. Under the new system of reminders I have never missed a due date for registering my vehicles or my driver's licence whereas in the past I had let them slip.
So what do you and your granny do to remind yourselves to pay your annual driver's licence fee as they've never had a sticker for that? What about your electricity, gas and water bills, do you need stickers as a reminder to pay for them too?
As for a commercial hire car or any car that isn't yours, you'd be mad to rely on the face value of a generic month sticker as an indication that it is properly registered.
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Rob H
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now your playing silly buggers.
Still not sure why you want EVERYONE not to have a sticker, which as you could have read, is smaller, voluntary and not for the coppers but the driver.
If you researched, the stickers cost $2 and even that wasnt passed on at the time
Your licence has the date printed on it, and few would do it annually.
Should they remove that from the licence so you dont need to look at it and save the cost of ink? Yes stupid I know, and you neednt say it.
As for the licence plate recognition, certainly agree that works for cars, for the cops.
But your boat doesnt have a number plate in an established format.
Just like I imagine the car one wouldnt work if you just threw a couple of stickers on the boot instead of the number plate.
HOWEVER, like most people who complain about things in life, you are whining about it in the wrong place, to the wrong person/people.
If you feel that strongly about it get off your ass and speak/lobby thew right people for what you want.
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Haha, are we is bizaro world?
Haha, are we is bizaro world? I am not the one whining mate, I like it as it is and am not the one having a whine on a fishing forum about the govt not giving me a sticker for my car. I don't really care about the boat sticker either just made an enquiry about the lack of consistancy and got an answer.
The govt was very clear at the time that not issuing stickers was purely a cost cutting measure due to all govt department being required to removed 3% off their bottom line during the GFC. What would be the use of making the saving and then passing that onto motorists? They'd then have to make further cuts elsewhere. I'm sure they've spent a shitload lot more than that establishing their much more effective email and sms reminder systems that give you several warnings your licence is about to expire but hey, I know I live in WA and it takes certain sections of the community a long time (if at all) to adapt to change.
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Paully
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I got a SMS only today
Re vehicle rego - no excuses. Simple really.
Paully
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So - do you need a sticker
to remind you when your insurances are due? Its a dud argument really (and im not having a crack).
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not sure if you are
not sure if you are referring to me Paully, but if you read it I was referring to vehicles such as rentals and business registered
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Well that and you and your
Well that and you and your poor old granny not knowing when to renew your regos
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Rob H
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sounds like you've been
sounds like you've been having a bad day mate, maybe untwist those knickers champ
Not life or death so the antagonism/sarcasm is just plain bad manners
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If you don't like antagonism
If you don't like antagonism don't offer it up with comments that don't relate to what people have posted:
"HOWEVER, like most people who complain about things in life, you are whining about it in the wrong place, to the wrong person/people.
If you feel that strongly about it get off your ass and speak/lobby thew right people for what you want."
In an case it was all tongue in cheek from my end. That and I never know when to stop once I get on a roll...
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Rob H
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apology accepted
Still seems like good advice, pertinent in many threads here about all sorts of compliance/reg issues and worded that way to gee people up into actually doing something positive.
All the effort you put in could have been used to actually achieve something with half as much typing.
Cant see that there is any positive outcome from your way other than a brief moment of fist pumping "take that mate!!"
Still, it's Friday for those who still have a job, chill time...
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C’mon blokes don’t stop now
C’mon blokes don’t stop now , Ledge hasn’t shown up yet
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All the effort you put into
All the effort you put into the thread you could have made enough reminder stickers to last you the next 40 years
I work in local govt mate, don't need Friday for chill time. Keep that weather looking good next weekend as I'm up in the mid west!
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Yes mate - it was in response to your thoughts
Like I said, not a personal thing - having said that I didnt realise that JackF had covered of on other things due for payment such as utlities etc , so in hindsight my post was basically the same. I stand by what I said - remembering that the onus is on the owner of the vehicle, business or personal to have the vehicles in current rego. What i get a bit tired off is hearing people whinge because their car is out of rego and it's not their fault because they didn't know etc. sighting the lack of sticker as the reason - not saying that , that was your gripe.
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rob h
your right so right on the revinue raised by expired regos the sneeky barstards
petermac
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i rang dept of transport
apparently the reason boats dont have a 3 , 6 or 12 month option for rego payments is because they are considered a luxery item , i put it to the DOT manager ," so if i own a ferrari i have the rego options but if i am a pensioner and own a 12 foot dingy i dont" , his response" well thats the way it is to bad " next phone call was to the oposition transport ministers office , i asked the same questions "well we didnt know that its a good point i will get the minister to ask the question in parlement " i will wait and see if i get an out come , probably seems small in the big scheme of thing but to me its just wrong just us boatys being screwed a bit more , Oh yeah asked DOT why we still have those tiny stickers on our boats to prove they are regoed he said so we know it and we can check from a distance I gently remindeded him we have our rego numbers prominently displayed on the port and starbard of our boats and it was 2016 and not hard for marine officers to log on to the rego dept from their boats or vehicles poor poor answer in my opinion
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hahahayou have way too much
hahaha
you have way too much time on your hands if you are ringing the minister about payment options for 3 months on the boat.
personally I think why would you pay 3 months, (apart from costing more!) ....I have couple of cars, couple of trailers etc etc and If I could, I'd pay 5 years on everything and be done with it.
Edit: this is not cos I'm a rich Ba$%^$d (wife is not going to pay the rego on her car ;)......it's just because I have work and have other better things to do than worry about paying bills.
And FWIW: I have a spreadsheet with all the expiry dates of licences/regos/flares etc etc. takes one glance usually everyitme I update/pay a bill etc to see if something has/is about to expire.
petermac
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your probably right
you are right i probably do have to much time on my hands , i just hate when i see thingsarent treated the same , bottom line is a boat is a luxery item so you dont have the rego payment options but the trailer the boat it sits on isnt and you have the payment options on , go figger that out
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yeah see what your're saying
yeah see what your're saying although I just try not to sweat the small stuff....especially when it comes to govt departments.
I guess it's pretty hard for these depts to coordinate everything between different branches.
you could always just get a bigger boat in a pen and not have a trailer. :)
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I'm a little confused with
I'm a little confused with this post, yes car rego has the option of 3,6 or 12 month payments, you do realise that you end up paying more if you pay 2 lots of 6 months for the year as aposed to the one payment for the 12 months?, and then even more for the 4 lots of 3 months, I get what you are saying about people on "struggle street" may not be able to afford a lump sum payment for rego for the 12 months but then again if I was in that situation I wouldn't have a boat, as you were told by DOT, it's a luxury item, different story if we had to take boats to go see the doctors or get to the shops, but that's just my opinion
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petermac
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Yewiefish85
the point that i am trying to make is simple , boats are considered a luxery item by the DOT thats why you dont get the rego options , since when was a 20 year old 12 foot ali dingy with a 15 hp outboard owned by a pensioner trying to catch some herring considered a luxery , and yet if you own a ferarri (and if you own 1 good on you ) its not considererd a luxery item by the DOT , maybe just maybe old fred the pensioner down the street cant afford to pay a full years boat rego in 1 whack on his dingy ,bloody hell lets have options even if its just for pensioners its not hard realy
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as I said above, if I was in
as I said above, if I was in the situation where I couldn't afford to pay my boat rego in one hit I simply wouldn't own one, simple really, no I don't have a Ferrari for the same reason, I simple can't afford one!, still pretty simple for me to work that one out!
also is it a necessity to use a boat to catch herring?
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Right on.
Right on.
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Paully
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^ Dont you get slugged an extra fee / tax
On vehicles that would be in that price range i.e. Ferrari. Luxury tax?
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Why do you need reminders?
Why do you need reminders? The rego papers are sent out and you pay them, they only send you a reminder 2 weeks before due date. I actually spoke with them yesterday regarding my stolen trailer and they offered me this free service.
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I have app on my phone that tells me for our cars, has links for going to payments, so I'm happy with that.
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Paully
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Question please
Are the / can the boat regos be paid online. The 3 month rego for cars is only available online i think.
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Yeah mate sure can and they
Yeah mate sure can and they also remind you
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thanks
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I just pay it when I get the
I just pay it when I get the renewal notice arrives like sea-kem said.
Also if you need reminding when it's due just write the date on your little service sticker for your oil change...simples.
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personally I don't care which
personally I don't care which way they run it
but its worth mentioning one thing about the 3 & 6 month rego is that if for some reason all your car or trailer regos tend to come due at the same time , like pre xmas etc ,,
you can use that option to shift a couple to a later month and thus stagger your expenses across your yearly budget then pay the 12 months to keep them in that order
its also handy for some peeps if their about to sell
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You can also do it the other way around
and bring all of your rego's to the same date so that you only have to remember it once a year.
Paully
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^
Jackfrost80
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Let's have a reminder sticker
Let's have a reminder sticker on my water mains, gas metre box, electricity metre box, my mobile phone, my modern, my home phone, my driver's licence.... hell why not put a reminder sticker on my toilet roll to wipe my bum.
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D_d_001
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^^ this in reply to this
"Id rather have a sticker, maybe a third of the size it was and non compulsory."
hahahhaha
think you need to get a hobby Jack. maybe try fishing
:)
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I'd love to but three kids
I'd love to but three kids under 6 puts a dent in my plans more often than not. Soon as the little pricks can pull an anchor though...
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Lol
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