AFL trade talk - 2016 thread
Submitted by randall df223 on Tue, 2016-08-30 11:28
Thought i would commence a thread to cover the AFL trade and draft periods as it seems the clean outs are already starting.
Two plus a retirement from Carlton and Cloke has requested a trade.
Freo obviously lose the Pav, but i expect (and hope) there will be many more! I'll call 15 changes to Freo's senior and rookie list.
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Will be interesting feom a WCE point of view
To see what happens with Emac and Browny, I would hope that both stay, but has been some talk about Emac. Be interesting to see whats offered up for him or both.
What I dont want too see is Emac for Ballantyne. Id rather WC go after Motlop if there looking to that sort of player.
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Talk about ballantyne -
Talk about ballantyne - kirsen swap but i dont think ballaz wants to leave the state and geelong fans probably dislike him more than west coast fans.
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Yeah I'd be up for chasing Kersten, he's a good South Fremantle lad.
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Unfortunately for him - Freo have the final say I would think
He's still contracted I think? What I really really want to see is WC make a big play for Lobb - but think probably he will cost to much from a trade pov. Interesting days ahead. Have a friend who is mad 1 eyed Roos....is savage about the likely Mayne pickup
Failing Lobb - would also like Jack Steele, but there talk of him being a Saint. Always a problem forour teams luring the mexicans
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I would love to lobb at
I would love to lobb at freo. We need another ruckman. But again he is contracted until the end of 2017.
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I would love the AFL to get serious about trading
With Nic Nat out , and looking to the future - put the house out for Lobb.
Imagine something like Gaff for Lobb. Sure you lose an amazing player, but team balance... both could win out of this.
What is more likely offered will be pick 20 two years in a row.. GWS will not be interested at all.
Chris Mayne is off to North Melbourne .... you can have Drew Petrie and Brent Harvey for him...jokes.... What about trade Majak Daw for Chris Mayne ... seems fair??
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Choke will be in a purple
Choke will be in a purple jumper next year!!!!
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IMO Cloke will stay in Melbourne
Last thing he'll want to at his age is travel every other week. I think the rebuild factor at Freo means it's a no go.
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And he doesnt like hot
And he doesnt like hot weather
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Freo are in need of a big
Freo are in need of a big man forward, likely contender, or have Ty vickery!
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That'll be Mcarthy's
Role I'm thinking. They'll develop him. Will be interesting - thinking Clokey had his chance with Freo
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Surely Freo have an
Surely Freo have an obligation to take Cam McCarthy after basically making him sit the year out and they are also going to trade in Bradley Hill by all accounts.
To mine that leaves West Coast in the box seat to get Lobb who has already indicated that he wants to be traded West, surely GWS have learned their lesson after last year. West Coast would also do well to remember the treatment we got when Ebert wanted to go home and offer up our second pick and THEN if required throw in a player Mastento 'sweeten' the deal. We'll be lucky to get a bag of Samboy chips for Mitch Clown.
I'd personally love the West Coast through the kitchen sink at one of O'Meara or Swallow who are now both wanting out of GC with a fit Swallow being the exact sort of big bodied mid we need.
I still believe Emac has a lot to offer as a pure shutdown player allowing McLovin to be a true swingman taking big clunks in the forward 50 and allowing Darling to run through the middle a bit more.
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Yep gws learned their lesson
What ones that??? I reakon if theres a signature they stay . dosent freo want hogan??
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See Randall's post below, he
See Randall's post below, he puts it better than I can
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Worsfold is going after McKenzie and Brown apparently.
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Sounds like Woosha is
Sounds like Woosha is chasing about 20 players. Bombers second pick for Clown
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^ 3 way deal with them and GWS
Might help our cause
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Would Freo consider a swap -
Ballantyne for Choke??
Oops, I see Bodie beat me to it!
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I dont expect to see bradley
I dont expect to see bradley hill at freo next year. 2018 maybe when he is out of contract. He shouldn't be a priority over someone like lobb. Possibly trade walters for lobb. Gws want a small forward apparently.
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Lobb also has to ask himself
Lobb also has to ask himself if he wants a slightly bigger pay cheque or a shot at a flag
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Inreresting Randall
Can I say though, It's difficult enough in a sense to understand why Lobb would want out given where GWS are now - however - no offence , but why would his prference be Freo when they are in another rebuild - dosent make sense to me. How also do you fit Lobb and Mcarthy both in trade deals, difficult spot I think. I am working on the fact youll get hill.
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Why would josh kennedy want
Why would josh kennedy want to come to the eagles in 2008 amongst all the turmoil at the time. Kenned has had to wait more than 4 years to play in a GF and had to endure a wooden spoon along the way.
Why would lobb want to go there now with kennedy still in his prime, nic nat and lycett arent going anywhere anytime soon.
If its a flag he is after in the next three years, he best stay at gws.
theyre all interesting questions, arent they?
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Josh Kennedy didn't want to
Josh Kennedy didn't want to come back to WA he was moved on by Carlton in no uncertain terms is your answer.
Lobb is a good Swan Districts boy who has expressed a desire to come home and barracked for the Eagles who coincidently require a ruckman and will have room in their salary cap to pay him handsomly. Lobb in the forward line when Nic Nat returns give Eagles flexibility to play Darling who has a huge tank in a different role.
Agree on the better chance of a flag at GWS however.
But hey, as we know with footy it's all tea leaves to us punters.
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^ spot on Frosty
As per my reply below.
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All of our forwards are hit
All of our forwards are hit up on the lead style players and we don't actually have anyone to sit deep for the top of the square kick and take the big clunk. That's where either Lobb after Nic Nat returns or retaining Emac and releasing McLovin forward become very important.
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I reckon we will get
I reckon we will get mccarthy forabsolutely next to nothing. Serve gws right i reckon for their stubbornness last year. I reckon a 4th or 5th round pick.
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Yep GWS lost out big time
Think you'll be looking at better than 4th 5th round.
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It will go right down to the
It will go right down to the wire that one i reckon. Either that or it will be done in the first day. Freo should just bide their time and do all their other deals and then in the last hour on the last day see what they want to give up. No other club will be interested except west coast and i cant see why they would be anyway.
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Hey paully. Dion prestia
Hey paully. Dion prestia nominted richmond as his club of choice. Based on that, your theory is out the window and freo still have a chance of getting lobb
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Long straw Randall ^ -
How close are GC to prem, how's their finals history looking?
- and he's (Prestia) not a west aussie is he? And as far as I can tell - it's only media hype anyway - like i said before , theres probably as much chance of him staying put.
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My point being that a
My point being that a talented player wants to go to a no hope club...
And the similarities between that situation and the lobb to freo scenario!
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^ He dosent know
any better
. Think youll find he has personal connections to the Tiges. Anyway whats wrong with them 
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Kennedy
Was not keen on coming home - he was required to do so otherwise Carlton were not getting Juddy.
Kennedy not ruck so that's not important.
So Lycca and Lobb for at least one whole season - right move. Darling play up ground after that - Lobb forward but able to play either end (mobile rucman ala Coxy), also important if we lose Emac.
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I swear I did NOT read this
I swear I did NOT read this before I replied to Randall above!!
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^ hahaha and i did not read this
Before i replied to you above LOL
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On a side note - might sound silly
But think the timing may be right for prospective players (west aussies - maybe others) with the new stadium and club/training facilities for both clubs coming online.
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Lobb
Getting Lobb is a long way away, GWS won't want picks so who's giving up what?
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Chris Masten and all the
Chris Masten and all the Whoppers the President can eat
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We will give them about 15
We will give them about 15 players for just him!
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Thats probably right ^^
If it happens - and i suspect there's as much chance of it not happening, it's going to be a multi club deal probaly to satisfy everyone.
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I seem to remember someone saying a big gun full forward
From Melbourne was coming to Freo this year - because he pulled on Dockers guernsey one day...might have even been told to bookmark it
Guess he might still.
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Sean hurley delisted from
Sean hurley delisted from freo. Sean who??? Yep didnt play any senior footy. Was an irish recruit.
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Might be dreaming regarding
Might be dreaming regarding Lobb so along with getting McCarthy , I’d consider Vickory as a tall Ruck/Fwd good hands and bonus he doesn’t mind bitch slapping the girly boys from up the road .. Mids are covered .. Backs , I hope Ibbotson’s not on the table can’t see Johnson playing injury free a whole season .. McKenzie’s experience would be a good fit if he wants to stay in town .
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Would become the most hated
Would become the most hated Freo player since the Carr hacks
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Not hated on this side of
Not hated on this side of the fence!
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Butcher been delisted
Guessing he hasnt done much - but had big raps in the beginning. Not aware if he's had much game time.
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Hope Mitch Brown doesnt
Hope Mitch Brown doesnt go. I really enjoy looking at his Mrs.
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Clarke
The Harlem Globetrotter is looking at options too. Apparently there is some interest.
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I think it'll be a case of
I think it'll be a case of helping him find a new home ala Mark Seaby
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Was only developing slowly
Was only developing slowly before he injured his knee (at a music festival). Has stopped developing altogether since!
Mr clarke, its time to leave the house.
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Was he there with Michael
Was he there with Michael Johnson? Might explain the overexcited dance moves
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Well he wasnt hiding at the
Well he wasnt hiding at the club's welfare officer's house!
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Or swimming across the
Or swimming across the Canning River or directing traffic or climbing a sikh temple or sneaking into the SAS barracks
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A Weagle bringing up
A Weagle bringing up insinuations of illicit substance use
Benny’s the man with the moves ..
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See two posts above.Whilst we
See two posts above.
Whilst we are on the subject however how many listed Eagles players have been arrested for being in possession of illicit substances?
Look down at Freo and you one current player who has an ecstasy charge and a cocaine charge to his name and one former player caught taking a drug used by heroin addicts and add to that a current player who by all accounts was the passenger in a stolen vehicle that was apprehended by Police.
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"By all accounts" ???? I
"By all accounts" ???? I must have my head in the sand because i have only heard that from you.
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I've heard from 2 seperate
I've heard from 2 seperate sources now without mentioning it and talked to a third person who said he also heard the same thing. Obviously it could have all spread from the one source and be completely false, I mean we all know how hard it is to come back from a soft tissue injury, can take years.
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I like your criteria jack.
I like your criteria jack. Listed players at the eagles vs any player that has been at freo.
you include former players at freo, how about former players at the eagles?
Objective or subjective?
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Former Freo players who were
Former Freo players who were caught doing/in possession of drugs whilst they were listed players Randall. One is still listed and one got delisted after serving his ban whilst still sitting on the list.
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^^^^ Now - that is a bit funny
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2 for 1 deal. We'll pay them
2 for 1 deal. We'll pay them to take Mitch
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Barlow - no offer on the
Barlow - no offer on the table yet. He'll probably not go to GWS as he values his legs too much.
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Haha. Sad thing is I work
Haha. Sad thing is I work with a guy that did the same injury playing soccer after doing the same injury 3 year prior to that. Poor bastard.
I reckon Barlow would be a good fit at Melbourne with their young emerging mids
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Tanner smith gone from freo.
Tanner smith gone from freo. He was on my list of 15. Perhaps i should publish that list to see how many i get right.
Ballantyne
Dawson
Pearce D
Suban
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Mzungu
Barlow
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Pavlich
Clarke
Hannath
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Motabito
Smith
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Would love Clancee back down
Would love Clancee back down at Basso. Was one of my favourites coming up through the ranks.
You reckon he'll get another AFL gig Randall?
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Will struggle. Courageous
Will struggle. Courageous player imo. Doesnt shirk any contest.
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Thought D Pearce already got
Thought D Pearce already got a contract extension though could be wrong .. heard whispers Langdon might pull the pin . On the fence with Barlow but I suppose the big picture is we need make some hard decisions while there's still some value there.
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D pearve is contracted for
D pearve is contracted for next yeah, yes. Dont think he has deserved it on this year's preformances.
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Forgot.
You forgot Ross Lyon off the list ........
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Everyone wants to blame the
Everyone wants to blame the coach, dont they? Richmond 5 assistant coaches, port adelaide 4 (?) assistant coaches....
When do the players take responsibility. In freos cause that was demonstrated last weekend. Where has that pressure been all year?
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Christ you used to rave
About most of those . don't see the coach there
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Dawson will get a contract
Dawson will get a contract extension and pay rise. Rosses little bitch
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Sometimes I watch Freo games
Sometimes I watch Freo games when they're losing just to watch the Spud Dawson comedy show
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I enjoy watching him run
I enjoy watching him run away from the ball when it hits the ground and try and hide in the pockets during the kickouts
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Stop picking on Zac you
Stop picking on Zac you mongrels , I see Neale and Shoowee didn’t make the AA cut .. though Kennedy and Mcgovern got in well done to those two
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As much as i like lachie
As much as i like lachie neale (a future leader at which ever club he plays) he needs to improve his disposal efficiency. Not surprisedhe missed out.
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Supposedly Mzungu is being
Supposedly Mzungu is being courted by the Black Ducks albeit not officially till the finals finish of course. Add David Ellard, Clancee Pearce and Jamie Bennell and Nathan Blakely back from a knee reco to the mix and we may well do better than finishing stone motherless last
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Anyone else bar WC and Freo
Anyone else bar WC and Freo supporters want to chime in?
Its certainly a long season listening to the home state dribble,
Being a Hawk i hope they snag a key defender and an inside mid...... Jaeger Bomb is just that i reckon, you'll pay overs for him and he seems like the clock is ticking before he has another injury....
FFS I hope we dont get Vickery!!
Cloke with confidence is a weapon, Cloke that we know now will spray it sideways from the goal square...
Can see Tmichell ending up in at the Hawks, i dont rate him too highly but i guess its a reasonable start.
Somewhat annoyed Selwood even got AA let alone capt? WTF??
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Victoria is about 3400km
Victoria is about 3400km east of here mate.
If you don't like WA bias just tune into The Footy Show, AFL 360, The Sunday Footy Show, Footy Classified, peruse the AFL website etc etc
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^
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Does anyone still watch the
Does anyone still watch the Footy Show??
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Could probably fit both
Could probably fit both in...as well as Tom Mitchell, seeing as there will no doubt be several retirements and some of the recent re-signings took pay cuts. Perhaps there will be some sort of exemption for Roughead's contract given the circumstances from what I've heard mentioned.
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Hahaha^^^
Hahaha^^^
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Entertaining, no one
Entertaining, no one dribbles like these two teams supporters haha
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Are you forgetting the
Are you forgetting the dribble Seagull rolls out week after week?
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Wake up Randal, did you say
Wake up Randal, did you say Lachie Neale needs to improve his effective disposals.
Ranked 1st in Total Handballs
Ranked 1st in Total Disposals
Ranked 5th in Total Supercoach Score
Ranked 1st in Total Contested Possessions
Ranked 19th in Total Uncontested Possessions
**Ranked 1st in Total Effective Disposals**
Ranked 3rd in Total Clearances
Ranked 1st in Handballs Per Game
Ranked 1st in Disposals Per Game
Ranked 3rd in Contested Possessions Per Game
Ranked 1st in Effective Disposals Per Game
Ranked 3rd in Clearances Per Game
All this and only 23yrs old.
If he was a eastern states player they would be raving about him.
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He is a balll magnet for
He is a balll magnet for sure. He just turns it over way too often. I dont see the point of getting 40+ disposals per game if the opposition get it back 20 times.
Dont get me wrong. I think he is good player but a bit like priddis he doesnt hurt opposition enough with his disposal.
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