advice please Re: beach setup
hi all,
i was hoping to get advice for people in the know regarding a beach setup for b&b species and also anything else that might swim by such as salmon or mulloway.
being a poor student i was hoping to spend $200 on the rod+reel. i think ill go for braid as i couldnt feel any nibbles/bites today when i bagged myself some tailor (this may just be due to the fact that i have a $100 setup with shimano eclipse rod and some plastic reel). in saying this what strength line do you recommend?
i may be able to stretch the budget a little (maybe $300 rod+reel) with christmas fast approaching.
an all purpose beach rod would be good, something stiff enough to cast a decent size sinker, but also light enough to cast metals/minnows/poppers.
thanks in advance,
-Jay

gumbyconts
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Oh,
if anyone has a second hand set up that matches the above please let me know too.
skrewloose
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for a rod i like the 9ft
for a rod i like the 9ft starlostix sore spin and match it with a 760 slamer you should be able to pick that up for about $250
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hlokk
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The rod would be good for
The rod would be good for lures, but you wont be able to chuck sinkers much over an ounce with it.
danno
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mate i think that for beach
mate i think that for beach fishing mono all the way. the reason i say this is that if you are going to catch samlon and mulloway in the surf your going to have to give i little but try not to lose much line off the reel. its also a good thing think for salmon because they jump and the extra stretch so they wont spit the hooks as easy.
thats my onpion and i think its the right one.
cheers danno.
gumbyconts
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hadnt though of it like
hadnt though of it like that, good point! do others agree?
wopjrb
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yer go mono mate
i found if bait fishin for silver brean and whiting braid is better - but anything big and you'll have a higher catch rate using mono - a 10 kg outfit is a good allrounder
justa_fisho
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shorespin
i have a starlo stick shorespin, it can cast but minimal weight, great for poppers and metals but if u have the small choppy seas it is alright bit short for and a little light in the kilo range, go a 10' silstar crysal tip, can cast up to round 90grams, it has a tonne of guts and is 8-10kg, or u could try a 8-12 kilo rod
hope this helps
gumbyconts
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do ya think that ill need 2
do ya think that ill need 2 separate rods for lures and dead baiting?
wopjrb
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nah u should be ight with an all rounder mate
maybe use a snap connector so u can switch rigs and lures easy - dontt forget the strong cross lock type snaps are the best
Emric1
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G'day, I'm interested in
G'day, I'm interested in hearing the responses on your question also.
I have 10' silstar crystal tip 8 -10kg and am using 20lb Mono and i'm happy with it for most Beach Fishing. It is sensitive enough to feel small stuff also.
I think i would like to get a slightly lighter setup say max 8kg. also.
I am thinking of a 12' rod for longer casting when the swell is up.
Good luck
Emric1
Colin Hay
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If you want a good allround rod at a great price Gumbyconts
track down a 12 foot Rovex Big Boss 6812. They are based on one of the best beach fishing rods of all time, the Penn 6810 and 6812. Sherbs had a lend of mine last weekend and I think he was pretty amazed at how far they will cast anything from a lightly weighted rig to a set-up with a heavy star sinker and a ganged mulie.
They are also fantastic for throwing metal lures a mile.
The advantage of having a light, 12 foot rod like this model is that if you are fishing a beach with a shore break, which you will start getting over the next few months, you are able to keep your rod above the waves and your bait in the bite zone.
If you are just going to fish areas where tghere is no reef, then 10 kg line is ok. As we fish near reefs quite a lot (where the big tailor tend to be at this time of year) I use a minimum of 15 kg line, with a 40 lb leader.
There are a few decent Shimano and Daiwa reels to be picked up for well under $200, and don't discard the Banax reels. They are tough and good value.
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mako magic
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i second that comment re big
i second that comment re big boss, awesome rod for the price. we have a couple coming in tomorrow or monday, definately worth a look at
gumbyconts
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i might come in tomorrow to
i might come in tomorrow to have a look at that rod.
luke george
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Braid - Mono
I always use braid off the beach i like being able to fit a huge amount of line incase you get a decent shark or a big ray and i found if you use a good size leader (2-3m) and a rod with a softish tip then you wont have any problems landing fish in the surf and i very rarely pull hooks on anything in the surf. I use braid for every style of fishing i do mainly just for the advantage of being able to feel every tiny little nibble or knock. As for the combo a live fibre of around 11 or 12 foot matched to any number of reels would do the job okuma has some nice ones with large line capacity in the eclipz range and daiwa also have a few good ones for around $150
Jody
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spools
Quite a few reasonably priced reels come with a spare spool Jay. Cover most bases if you have braid on one and mono on the other.
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Colin Hay
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I like the set-up for the Abu Garcia Soron STX model
They come with one spool which you can attach your braid directly to the spool without the need for backing and a second spool with a completely different design, which you can either use for mono or braid.
They come standard with carbon fibre drag washers and 11 ball bearings from memory - and at about $200 they are not bad value.
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i like mono
mono off the beach for me, gives you a bit more shock absorbtion and abrasion resistance 20 to 30lb the go for tailor and mulloway 10 to 15lb for herring, whiting etc. I f your just starting out dont go too fancy there are plenty of cheap 12' rods around that will do the job. some outlets are selling penn 850ss for abiut $150 at the moment and they are great tough reels for beach fishing just keep them out of the sand and water cos that will bring any reel to a grinding halt.
spend the extra money on a pipe to hold the rod, headlamp, impact sinkers, chair and esky
justa_fisho
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for herring
all you would need is a 7'-10' rod preferably 9' for distance, starlo stick 9' will do the job, with a 4000 or 5000 size shimano reel with one spool 12-15LB for your herring, skippy, whiting, garfish, flathead, tarwhine etc. on the other spool have 20LB and that will cover tailor, salmon, medium skippy. but if you want to anchor your bait on the bottom it wouldnt be the best rod to use, 10'-15' for a your heavy duty beach setup. you can get great shimano reels on special at bcf at the moment, come into bcf balcatta and im happy to help you out.
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