Political and Environmental Issues
Diesel spill in the Swan
Submitted by grantarctic1 on Thu, 2015-07-30 16:15Just heard about this on the radio. The article says its not that bad.
Any spill in the river is bad in my opinion .
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-30/swanriverslicksuppliedbyderjpg/6660968

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mmmmm Maroons domination
Submitted by maxxeman on Wed, 2015-07-08 21:41Cockroaches OWNED!!!
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Fisheries after whale information
Submitted by Willlo on Thu, 2015-06-04 13:35Just heard on the radio that fisheries are after info on whale migration from the commercial sector,to determine if we have a hump back migration highway off our coast.Now i am starting to feel a bit jaded and suspect about giving these guys any info in case it gets used to limit access to certain areas.It will be up to the commercial sector if they do or dont in the long run anyway,i was wondering if any out there were starting to feel the same way. Or am i just old and a bit paranoid and sick of being told where i can and cant fish.
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Possible sick seal north of burns beach
Submitted by Wahoo on Sun, 2015-05-31 10:01There's a possible sick seal around 4km north of Burns Beach cafe. It's a small seal laying on its back about 10m from the shore. Who's best to call?
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Animal Rights
Submitted by Rick Mazza on Wed, 2015-04-29 15:41Fishers are not immune to animal rights, catch and release is now banned in Germany and Denmark. With the Animal Rights Party now having a seat in the NSW upper house (8 year term) we will need to be on guard.
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Saving Quobba, Warroora, Gnaraloo & Ningaloo coastline from unwanted developments
Submitted by Bushbratz on Thu, 2015-04-23 16:17The following is a long report but it is detailed enough for readers to counter arguments by ill informed people regarding the situation along the Ningaloo coastline where the DPaW want to annexe a 180 klm strip 2klm wide, along the Ningaloo coast and bring in developers. In the name of "sustainable development" they plan to establish - quote: "a Public Reserve jointly managed with traditional land owners to protect the unique wilderness experience enjoyed by thousands of Western Australians" - yet they also plan a number of 500 bed resorts and 200 bed eco camps along the Ningaloo coast from Quobba to just south of Exmouth. They plan to relocate existing campsites away from beach areas; restrict camping stays to 2 weeks as per other DPaW managed facilities and of course increase camping fees. According to recent verbal statements from DPaW employees they also plan to put in around 13 long drop toilets at Winderabandi Point- long drop toilets are notorious for polluting ground water and leaching effluent into nearby seawater.
Retirees and pensioners are the main group of people visiting the Ningaloo coastline. They stay on average at least 8 weeks some even as much as 14 weeks and according to CSIRO and Curtin University studies contribute around $5.6million to the economies of Carnarvon and Exmouth every year. However during school holidays, families with children predominate.
They will all be deterred from ever visiting again if the DPaW take-over takes place because of higher camping fees; restricted camping time to 2 weeks; relocation of camping areas well away from beaches and even loss of access to the best beaches due to them being reserved for exclusive use by the proposed resort visitors.
People travel from Perth and the eastern states to visit every year - the two week limitation will certainly make the journey uneconomical to a proposed less attractive camping area.
Local businesses in Carnarvon and Exmouth will be adversely affected as the developers will be competing with them for the tourist dollar by providing full board accommodation and every recreational facility. Costs to patrons will rise dramatically to cover the investment costs for the substantial infrastructure such as roads, water, power, sewerage, shops and fuel outlets together with resort buildings and accommodation for employees. There is no mention of airports or hospitals so no doubt the developers will be relying on these facilities within their competitors area.
The proposed developments are far more substantial than those proposed years ago for Maud's Landing near Coral Bay - a project that was defeated by the combined efforts of celebrities, experienced environmentalists and people from all over the world objecting particularly on the grounds that the area could not sustain the increased number of people yet the new DPaW proposal would cater for far more visitors than the Maud's Landing project and therefore will have far greater consequences.
When UNESCO was investigating the Ningaloo Reef for World Heritage Listing, they commended the pastoralists on their ability to maintain the pristine wilderness aspect of the coastal area then went on to highlight the mistrust that Exmouth residents have in DPaW.
Scathing criticism was also launched against the DEC [now DPaW] by the WA Coroner Mr Alistair Hope during investigations into the deaths of three truck drivers who were allowed by DEC personnel to drive through a bushfire area on the Gt Eastern Highway near Coolgardie, he stated extreme incompetence attributed to their deaths yet the senior DEC employee involved escaped prosecution by a timely resignation and even received a $73,000 payout!!
Some other examples of incompetence and lack of integrity are:
The Inhumane treatment of animals when they were allowed to die of thirst after DPaW took over certain WA pastoral stations.
The alleged misconduct when DPaW allegedly refused to renew the licence of an Exmouth whale shark tour operator [who was not guilty of any misconduct] then allegedly allocated that licence to a former DEC [ now DPaW] employee who reputedly was inexperienced.
This is the government dept that claims the competence and integrity to manage the Ningaloo coastline in a sustainable manner!
Certain politicians are currently determined to enforce their own agenda on the populace without any regard for the consequences in Carnarvon and Exmouth - without any regard for the average Australian citizen being unable to compete with wealthy overseas tourists displacing them from traditional recreational areas.
If the authorities persist in their demands for improving the tourist industry then any new developments should take place in Carnarvon and Exmouth where the basic infrastructure already exists such as bitumen roads, potable water, sewerage,electricity, existing tourist attractions, shops, service stations, marinas, boat launching facilities, airports and hospitals - towns that depend on tourism for survival - towns that will suffer financially if the DPaW take over is approved.
The Minister for lands - Hon Terry Redman continually refers to signed agreements that pastoralists made some years ago agreeing to a strip of coast being annexed by DPaW but he fails to make known the duress experienced by the pastoralists of the alternative of having the whole of the stations taken from them - it was a choice between the devil and deep blue sea - not much of a choice was it? what would you do under the same circumstances? sign and continue the fight or capitulate to an unfair and bullying situation?
The pastoralists are internationally recognised for being successful for decades in preserving the pristine Wilderness aspect of that coastline whilst guaranteeing continued low impact, low cost access for recreation purposes so it makes sense to continue having them manage the area - it is also appropriate for them to retain the facilities [homesteads, buildings, access to water for stock etc] that they have established over the decades.
The pastoral leases should be renewed for at least 100 years and not just for the life of the current lessee as per the latest government offer - when one realises that Mrs Billie Lefroy is 89 yrs old then the latest government offer is shown to be very inadequate.
The Wilderness Society of WA has already expressed agreement to work with pastoralists towards a common goal - a sign of their confidence in the pastoralists. The Wilderness Society of WA also expresses concern of the DPaW to manage the Ningaloo coast.
It is acknowledged that some facilities/infrastructures on the stations would benefit from improvements so it is logical to have support from state and local governments to address these issues - such as environment friendly sewerage facilities; potable water and all weather roads that will encourage traditional campers to travel into town more frequently whilst providing a safe all weather exit in times of distress or foul weather - all are basics that will greatly benefit the local communities and towns without jeopardising the Wilderness aspect of the area.
Interestingly these basics improvements were implemented almost 20 yrs ago at Coral Bay when at the time just two private investors operated!!
And what about Coral Bay? Freehold title was granted to the two main investors years ago. Leases still exist for the housing estate people although Supreme Court activities indicate the possibility of strata titles being approved . This has been achieved by the efforts of an Association formed by the Coral Bay householders and their subsequent financial input to gain Supreme Court involvement. A situation that may not be viable for the Ningaloo coast pastoralists without contributions to a fighting fund for them- you are encouraged to contact them to see how to support their efforts.
Contacts are: ; ;
Freehold titles were granted to the two major Coral Bay investors years ago and approvals have already been given for another 800 persons to be accommodated there. The RAC [who advertises itself as a non profit organisation] has recently acquired the Aspen owned hotel and caravan park at Coral Bay. Money certainly speaks!!
Going back to the Ningaloo coastal stations issue - is it an example of influential developers aiming at another easy target- the Ningaloo pastoralists? An interesting comparison !!
The proposed DPaW take over is an important issue with far reaching consequences - everyone who cares for protecting a pristine wilderness area from developers must get involved - they need to remember the effects of other developments in wilderness areas over east - they all failed to preserve the wilderness integrity. This must not happen here on the Ningaloo coast. A Wilderness area is no longer a wilderness when developers move in!
The arguments prevailing during the failed Maud's Landing development proposal are still relevant:
"The 1995 Legislative Council Select Committee recommended generally against development on the west coast of Cape Range peninsula. Abundant scientific evidence shows that the area is too fragile to support such development.
Proposed sewerage of the resort[s] is inappropriate to the geomorphology of the area.
Nutrients from lawns, gardens, and wastewater will eventually enter groundwater and flow straight to the waters of the reef.
Demands on groundwater for supply to the settlement[s] will impact negatively on surrounding flora and fauna."
I urge you to contact your MPs and voice your concerns - without your involvement the take over will go ahead.
Signing the Facebook petition titled "Hon Ken Baston's campaign to save Warroora station from unwanted development" is the first step then politicians and the media - if you really care you must commit yourself.
Time is rapidly running out as the Pastoral leases expire in July this year and Leonnie McLeod of Warroora station has been set a deadline of April 24, 2015 to sign agreement for annexation or risk losing the whole station.
Albert Einstein once said " injustices are condoned by the inactions of people" or words to that effect - a wise and appropriate comment!
YOUR involvement is urgently needed - ACT NOW and stop the take-over.
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Shark cage operators apply for more locations to operate
Submitted by Paul H on Mon, 2015-04-06 17:54
South Australian Fishing Alliance is running a petition against an application for shark cage diving to be expanded to a number of other areas for anyone who wants to add their signature. They have applied to expand to other areas after a shark was killed by orcas and the sharks have left the area. SA government has asked for objections (given an 8 day ""consultation" period to do so which includes Easter but they stand to make money from any new approvals hence the very short objection period given) - See petition for more details.
Cheers
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Marine Parks
Submitted by Rick Mazza on Tue, 2014-11-25 13:21Part 1 of the debate for those interested.
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Putin VS Abbott
Submitted by chris raff on Tue, 2014-10-14 11:37Onya Tony don't take no crap , line him up and smash him
.. If you can't take him send in Bronwyn Bishop to finish him .
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" It's not food it's violence "
Submitted by chris raff on Thu, 2014-10-09 13:28Animal Libo’s recent dead chook speech .. I was overcome with emotion watching this and I’m just so glad “ Snow “ made it . Inbetween my tears , I’ve replicated some placards and encourage all of you to join with me spreading Snow’s message in a non violent protest at Nandos later today ..
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requesting help from fellow WA fishers - SA fishing bans
Submitted by Paul H on Thu, 2014-09-04 12:35As most know this is an issue that affects us all regardless of the state we live in. Anyone who would like to assist please sign the petition on the link below.
Things are looking dire here in SA and we need all the help we can get
http://www.change.org/p/don-t-ban-anglers-from-12-south-australian-marine-parks
Cheers and thanks to all who help out by signing
Paul
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Win for common sense
Submitted by Rick Mazza on Tue, 2014-08-19 17:50After intense discussions I received a letter from the fisheries minister that he will support a change in regulations excluding fish frames from the 20KG fillet limit. Good news in reducing waste.
Rick
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Road side assistance
Submitted by matt osborne on Sat, 2014-04-19 13:44Hi all just got down to leeman last night after driving from port Hedland. About 3 am Friday morning we hit massive bull just north of carnarvon and our car is pretty well stuffed my 6 metre boat snapped the front post on the trailer and we were pretty lucky it didn't end up in the back of our car.
The worst part of the accident was the 10 to 15 other boaters/ fishermen heading north that just drove past and didn't stop even with me trying to wave them down by flashing torch sat them. Thanks a lot to those guys pretty piss more in my books but what goes around comes around you blokes and one day you ll be the one that needs help. In case you are wonderingly young family including my 2 year old boy are fine and the tow truck driver was the most helpful bloke he helped me repair the trailer and get the boat sorted so we could get it down to leeman.
Just wanted to say to the blokes that drove past thanks for nothing. Very disappointed that fellow fisherman won't stop to help you out when you need it the most. I can't believe it to be honest.
And to john our tow truck driver known as carnarvonite on these pages thank you do much for every thing if we didn't have your help we would have been stranded for hours and not got our boat sorted you did way more than just tow the car. Helping me fix the trailer and get the boat back on and letting me use tools at the shop your a true Aussie. And a good bloke thanks so much!
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New study seeking participation of recreational fishers in an online survey
Submitted by emily baggs on Fri, 2014-04-18 07:06New study seeks your help to improve opportunities for recreational fishers to get involved in fisheries management and science
Take part in a 15-20 minute survey and go into a draw to win one of five $100 gift vouchers
Have you ever wanted to have a say about fisheries, or get involved in helping to improve fisheries management through doing things like collecting data? Or have you gotten involved and had some good or bad experiences?
A new study is looking at how to improve opportunities for recreational fishers to get involved in the management of recreational fishing. Getting involved can mean anything from talking to a local representative of a recreational fishing organisation, through to collecting data that helps improve knowledge of fisheries science, or being part of a fisheries management committee.
As part of the study, anyone interested in recreational fishing is invited to complete the ‘getting involved in fisheries management and science’ survey, which you can complete by going to http://canberra.az1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_24X4pjyKFpVcyXj
The researchers invite all people to take part, including fishers, fisheries managers, and others with an interest in fishing and fisheries. You don’t have to have had any involvement in fisheries management or science to take part.
The survey usually takes 15-20 minutes to complete. If you’ve had a lot of involvement in fisheries management processes in the past it may take up to 30 minutes. All participants who complete the survey have the opportunity to enter a prize draw for a chance to win one of 5 gift vouchers worth $100 each.
The survey, being conducted by researchers from the University of Canberra, is open until May 4th, 2014. If you need any help with the survey, or would like to have a paper copy of it posted to you instead of doing it online, please call the researchers on 1800 981 499. More information on the study is provided in the 'Information sheet - getting involved' document (follow this link: https://canberra.az1.qualtrics.com/CP/File.php?F=F_41R3xDJVpZYFzp3
The survey is funded by the Fisheries Research and Development Corporation and the Department of Primary Industries and Regions South Australia.
Please forward this email to people who may be interested in participating
Yours sincerely,
Jacki Schirmer
Senior Research Fellow
University of Canberra
Jacki.schirmer@canberra.edu.au
1800 981 499
Prize draw terms and conditions: Entry into the lottery is determined by the completion of the survey 'Getting involved in fisheries co-management and science.' Everyone who completes the survey will be eligible to enter the prize draw for one of 5 gift vouchers, worth $100 each. Winners will have their choice of a Flight Centre voucher, Coles-Myer or WISH giftcard. Entries for this competition open on April 2nd and close May 4th 2014. The prize draw will happen on May 5th at the Centre for Research and Action in Public Health, Building 22, University of Canberra, University Drive South, Bruce, ACT, 2617. The winner will be notified by May 12th 2014 and listed in The Australian newspaper on May 19th 2014. Minimum age is 18 years. Survey promoter: University of Canberra. Contact agent: Dr Jacki Schirmer, Senior Research Fellow, University of Canberra, Building 22, University Drive South, Bruce ACT 2617 ABN 81 633 873 422. Phone 1800 981 499.
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Asian paddle crab and othet Invasive species
Submitted by bingwit on Tue, 2014-04-08 21:43What are the invasive species that are starting to
proliferate in WA waters ?
Yesterday, i caught an unfamiliar crab at Hillarys. Good thing i was able to recall reading a writeup on Asian paddle crabs. So the critter was promptly destroyed. What are the other unwanted foreign species that we need to look out for?
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possible permanent closure of Dewar's 4x4 track, Two Rocks by Wanneroo council.
Submitted by Wahoo on Tue, 2014-04-01 22:12Hi all, the Wanneroo council is meeting again in two weeks (Tues) to discuss the permanent closure of Dewar's 4wd track, Two Rocks. Please attend if you want this track to remain accessible. Check out the facebook page Two Rocks Fights Back for further information and sign the petition on there. Cheers.
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Senate election. 05/04/2014. Lets get it right!
Submitted by pale ale on Sat, 2014-03-22 10:29Lets have an educated discussion on what is in our best interest for the upcoming senate election.
I personally want the Greens to come dead last! They may have gained some popularity with the recent shark cull fiasco.
How many senate candidates are going to support our rights as rec fishos?
Last election, I think we had 2 (Shooters and Fishers Party and another fishing related one.) and it seems they were competing against each other and therefore neither of them got anywhere.
As a website with thousands of members, I beleive if we all work together we can make a difference.
Try and play nice! We need our rights as rec anglers to be heard!
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Buswell well buzzed
Submitted by Redchoppa on Mon, 2014-03-10 19:08What a show. Got off pissy driving by disappearing to Sydney claiming an emotional breakdown, resigned when the news and papers found out and didn't tell them he'd stacked a work car until 2 weeks later.
bet state the budget is in good nick though...
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Greens will ruin Australia
Submitted by pale ale on Thu, 2014-02-20 16:58And the Greens want to let thousands of these heathen scum into Australia
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/02/20/asylum-seekers-made-rape-threats-mp
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Have your say in this one
Submitted by Rig on Wed, 2014-02-12 17:00another shark thread, thought I would post this one so everyone can have their own vote on this either way
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Sea Shepherd on trial for spill in QLD waters
Submitted by saltatrix on Tue, 2014-02-04 21:26News
Sea Shepherd on trial over spill in coastal waters off Cairns
Caitlin Guilfoyle
The Cairns Post
January 28, 2014 9:27AM
oil dump
CHARGED: A WELL-known marine life conservation group has been charged with discharging oil in coastal waters off Cairns. Source: CairnsPost
A WELL-known marine life conservation group has been charged with discharging oil in coastal waters off Cairns.
Sea Shepherd Australia Limited was recently mentioned in Cairns Magistrates Court charged with discharging oil in Trinity Inlet on October 13, 2012.
The charge falls under the Transport Operations (Marine Pollution) Act 1995.
The Cairns Post has obtained a complaint document which was filed by Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) prosecutor Anne Roseler in December last year.
The complaint claims TMR became aware of the alleged discharge in June last year, about eight months after the incident.
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Fish Deaths Wonnerup Estuary
Submitted by Howard George on Tue, 2014-02-04 19:41We're just having more fish deaths in the Wonnerup Estuary System . There's a toxic algal bloom killing them off.
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The real danger of drum lines?
Submitted by Adam Gallash on Sun, 2014-02-02 11:47Alright,
Not another drum line thread I promise, but there is some relation to it. I don't know about you, but I'm thinking the scary thing about the drum lines is the amount of support it is bringing up for the greens and these fringe minority enviro groups that are anti everything. I've been reading a bit of stuff on facebook and other discussion websites and its really scary how many people have come out of the woodwork to support any environmental principle thats somewhat related to the water. The concerning thing is how they aren't just focusing on sharks, but fishermen and marine parks and anything that could pose damage to the environment, regardless of the fact of it being well managed. I have no issues with enviro conservation, my concerns are how they are implemented, managed and the science that goes into deciding where they are placed.
I guess what I'm saying is, its got the potential to turn some of these minorities into small to medium players in the political arena (where it counts these days), whilst I don't think they're there just yet, this has the potential to have significant impacts on us as fisho's going into the future.. What do you think?
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Green idiots!
Submitted by pale ale on Sat, 2014-02-01 09:24How stupid is this woman.
If it wasn't so serious, it would be funny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moJ7j86MyWw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DmoJ7j86MyWw&app=desktop
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A win for fishing? I hope that they give more access to rec fishing.
Submitted by Buz on Fri, 2013-12-13 21:31"The Federal Government has taken the first step towards reviewing Labor's plans for marine reserves. Management plans signed off by Labor have been scrapped, including exclusion zones that would have come into effect next July. But the boundaries of all marine reserves and parks will stay in place while a scientific review is carried out.Environment Minister Greg Hunt says Labor's plans were flawed and would have locked out fishers."Rather than what has been perceived by many to have been a political process to have locked out small local fishing families - those that want to take out the tinny from areas that have long been popular," he said. "So the parks remain, but there's greater freedom in usage and a scientific process going forward."Mr Hunt says a review panel will be announced early next year and they will use a science-based process. "Exactly as we said before the election we have re-established and re-affirmed all of Australia's Commonwealth marine reserves," he said."What we have done is begun the process of re-establishing the management plans within them." http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-12-13/coalition-scraps-labor27s-marine-parks-management-plans/5156674
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The Shark Con Documentary
Submitted by Sulo on Wed, 2013-12-11 09:16Has anyone watched the doco called The Shark Con?
I have only been able to find it as a buy or rent to watch. Slammed by researches and the greenies but an interesting watch all the same.
New State Fisheries Minister WA
Submitted by Howard George on Fri, 2013-12-06 12:28There's been a cabinet reshuffle and Troy Buswell's been replaced by Ken Baston as State Fisheries Minister. The premier has made the move claiming Troy Buswell has too much on his plate handling the states finances.
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Indonesia Drama Escalating
Submitted by chris raff on Thu, 2013-11-21 17:38
Initially I thought bugger them why should we , especially after hearing media reports where the admission was made that they were also guilty of spying . But now I'm thinking Tony Abbot should have nipped it in the bud straight away and apologised . Yes we give them large bags of coin and they more or less give us the finger regarding people smuggling etc . It goes against the grain somewhat but that's what diplomacy is about dealing with a prospective volatile nation on your doorstep I guess . What's that saying " keep your friends close but your enemies closer " not that they are but you get the drift . The daughter is supposed to be going to Bali on monday , hopefully this starts to mellow out but I don't see it at this stage . Waiver : these are just the thoughts of a mediocre fisho who knows diddly squat about international relations . Interested in your thoughts on this contentious subject without any hostility.
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snorkelling with a hand reel
Submitted by gappy_p on Tue, 2013-11-05 00:59does anyone know the legality of this?
me and my dad used to do it down @ watermans beach and we caught a fair few fish.
then he told me he thought it might be illegal.
it's a pitty if it is though. there's a lot of big whiting in the holes of the reef between watermans and trigg.
they're not too hard to catch doing this.
just find them. chuck out the line done.
it's would be good to go down for a swim and catch dinner just before i go. also can be more selective with the fish.
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