Shark Fishing SW
This is going to be a bit controversial but the mulie boat at Dunsborough went out Sat. night and filled up with mulies but around the net there was an estimated dozen sharks of all species in a real frenzy. Now I've just rung up fisheries Dept .and they're saying that rec-fishers can target these sharks as long as we stick to the size limits of 700 mm between dorsal fins and second fin with a bag limit of two. When I then look at the SLSWA web-site bronze whalers and tiger sharks have caused closures at Meelup and Bunkers Bay for swimmers for a few days now but these sharks are not a protected species so I believe we're within our rights to have some shark action and take some pressure off the people using the area for swimming at the same time. You just know we're going to get some heat from the greenies if we do this but i'm not chasing greenie points but looking to put some shark in the freezer " maybe ".I'd be interested in other peoples opinions.
Shark B8
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I say there is no harm in
I say there is no harm in taking a few out of the water.. There are a lot about even futher up north.. I like to target bigger sharks of the beach as its a real accomplishment when u land one..
Go big or go home..
Howard George
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Ideal Shark BB
These sharks would be ideal for you BB because they're only a couple of metres from shore and the eye in the sky will lead you right to them.
AlwaysFishin
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I can't see a problem with
I can't see a problem with it, get amongst them! Be sure to post pics :)
Howard George
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There's another Side Issue
I should have mentioned this earlier that one of the sponsers on this web-site is Dunsborough Sportz and while he does fishing tackle he also does diving trips so it could have an impact on his business on what is posted so please be careful with your comments.
cudbfishn
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There not protected but
There not protected but 700mm rule still applies as they are both a whaler shark. Both are good eating.
Spitfire56
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It's fair game
No different to fishing the fads, fish your bag and there is no issue. It's not like a charter operator who fishes the same reef everyday until there is nothing left
sea-kem
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You've gotta be
You've gotta be kidding?"It's not like a charter operator who fishes the same reef everyday until there is nothing left". From what I've seen they log where they fish so as not to overfish each spot so they can have a sustainable business. Maybe you should think before you type. No doubt their are some average operators out there but it's the same in all walks of life.
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carnarvonite
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Not just sharks
You will find its not just sharks that surround the mulie net, have seen big tuna, YTKs, biig mulloway plus the sharks.
Howard, give Shane a call, he''d probably welcome an extra hand if you want to go out for a look see.
Howard George
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My Son Carnarvonite
My son has a licence to work on commercial fishing boats and is also related to Alan and Shane and worked for them on Sat night to make up the numbers.He does this on a few nights through the season and is always on the lookout for fish that are hanging around the net and on the sounder and sometimes his information is invaluable.Last Sat. it was sharks only but be sure if it was anything else I would have posted it. Last year from memory I posted when the SBT's turned up. The only trouble is getting him to give out information because having worked in the commercial fishing industry for some years he's learned to be tight liped and not give out to many secrets.
pudzz
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like
theres no problem catching sharks..
sure you not allowed to keep them over 70cm between the fins
if its over then just release it.. or fillet it if no ones watching haha <-- (whos gonna jump on the back about that first haha)
3m is a bit too big but ive had no problem releasing them infront of fisheries they even come and visit me at home and question
me about them but aslong as we release them its all good with them.
Spitfire56
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Maybe you should read before you type sea-kem
"a" charter operator, not all, not some, not anyone in particular..... My point is that a recreational fisherman taking a shark when the opportunity arises is nothing compared to "a" charter operator who may continually fish the same area everyday or loads more than the average man. Obviously given your post you monitor all charter activity in the world so you know best sea-kem. From what I have seen on the odd day the stars align, the weather is good, I'm not working and the mrs lets me is that some charters tend to fish the same areas consistently ( which i havent, didnt and wouldnt name) So back to my post..... No issue catching the occasional shark as long as it doesn't become an everyday thing like A ( not all) charter operator who may be from the " walk of life you mention"
. To break it down as long as the opportunity is not exploited I think it's a great opportunity to catch a good fish. To answer your question I am not kidding.... And if you actually read what you have typed you have clearly contradicted yourself... " average operators out there" perhaps one of them is the one I have mentioned. Who will ever know?? Good luck on the watersea-kem
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No mate when you say 'A"
No mate when you say 'A" charter operator you are making a general supposition. I know how to read a sentence and can garner what you were saying so don't try to change it now. Don't take offense it's constructive criticism..... BTW I've been on few good charters and they will only fish a spot for a short amount of time so as not to hammer their livelihood. If there a operators you've been with who do what you say then they won't last long. Word gets around quick if you're paying good dough and catching f'all. My appologies Howard for changing the subject.
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Spitfire56
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Collins dictionary Sea kem
() An adjective, commonly called the indefinite article, and signifying one or any, but less emphatically.
sea-kem
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whatever......
whatever......
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Chris fish
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It's all well and good
It's all well and good catching them but in the last 3 months I've been fishing for sharks on the south coast and I'm yet to see any numbers of small ones. In 3 months between 3 of us we have landed over 20 sharks and only 1 has been under 2m total length. Little sharks just aren't in big numbers it's always big ones that find the baits first even if they are only small baits supposed to be for small ones. With the salmon season coming its only going to get worse with more ad more large sharks following the schools. Mates that work on the Mulie boats out from Albany have said they do see small sharks in certain areas and even when I target those areas I still get big ones.
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Versus
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We should swap info/tactics
We should swap info/tactics chris fish, I only ever catch small stuff :D (not sharks but)
Don't see too much of a problem here, wouldn't want to get tangled in the nets but. Get a couple fresh mulies off the boat, chuck em in and hold on!
carnarvonite
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Tangles
Was working with Shane at Eagle bay when we got a wanker who was trolling for salmon caught inside the net then tried to drive over it to get out. Not only did he shear the rubber mount in his prop but cut a massive hole in the net.
Cost him quite a few dollars for repairs to the net and we reported him to fisheries because then there was the season exclusion zone keeping all boats 400 metres from shore.
Shane and his fatherAllen are wonderful blokes who would do anything for anyone, but don''t get on the wrong side of them.
Howard George
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I Agree Carnarvonite
Have to agree about the comments you made about Allan and Shane. I asked around why the pro's are not down there with their nets and it's been suggested that they've run out of fishing days that they can go fishing because you usually don't get sharks in this number at this time of year.I'm sure Brian would be there if there was a buck in it. Maybe time for a special licence to be issued by fisheries to sort out the problem.
marble
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There never was an exclusion
There never was an exclusion zone stopping boats within 400m of shore. A few of the less reputable commercial guys tried to say there was but the regs stated you could travel in that zone at reduced speed, anchor or drift fish but not troll. We had a few run ins with some of the pros down there about it, fisheries got involved and the pros got told to pull their heads in. Thankfully those fools arent in it anymore.
Allan and Shane used to point out salmon hanging on the reefs that they couldnt net hoping maybe if we caught a few the school would move up the beach so they could get them.
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Howard George
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Ah memories marble
There was actually salmon in those days. Will they ever return I wonder.
Howard George
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the Commercial Guys Versus
I've always found the Pro's down this way very approachable Versus simply because I don't slander their operations like some people do to win an argument.I'm sure Shane would help as much as he could but you've got to remember he's loaded up with mulies and he's got to get them in to the freezers as fast as he can so we get a quality product so best stay well clear.
Versus
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I really don't know how to
I really don't know how to interpret this...
Howard George
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I Should Have Explained versus.
A few years ago at a meeting in Bunbury between Rec-fishers and the local Pro's I suggested that a MOU should be made that no DG nets should be set close to shore in Geo.Bay during peak holiday time and they agreed and they've been true to their word ever since. Some rec-fishers thought by being agressive and attacking verbaly the way DG nets are used and also argued that the nets should be banned completely went to far and it all went horribly wrong and you'll notice the nets are still being used today with the support of the minister.I hope you don't think Versus that I was implying that you were anyway involved because I wasn't and I know you're not but there was a bit of biff on the jetty in Bunbury and the cops were called and charges laid hence a bit of friction between the two user groups still exists today down this way. Like I've said before, Shane who skippers the mulie boat is an ok guy but it's getting tougher all the time for them to remain profitable and they don't need any hassles from overzealous fishers chasing anything that comes around the net while it's still in the water. I hope this makes it clearer for you Versus.
carnarvonite
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Pros
Have worked with nearly all the pros down that way on salmon teams, Shane, his father , Allen, Smithy, Jonesy, the Soulos''s, Lucas's starting at Hamelin in 65 and on and off right through till 05.
The exclusion zone was sign posted at all the beaches and at Quindalup and old Dunsborough ramps and at one stage there was nearly some big fights because it wasn't being policed. Wouldn''t have been the first time I''ve cast a lure at a boat that has come near to scaring a school of fish that we had been tracking for hours , waiting for it to come off the reef.
Yet on the last season I did, we were asked by Buschy and Steve Starling to assist them in spotting fish for them at Hamelin bay, right at the end of the episode they panned the camera round to show us and thanked us for our help in making the show work.
Howard George
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You've Just confirmed Carnarvonite
I've longed believed Carnarvonite that level heads within both the pro's and Rec-fishers can sit down around the table and come up with some positive outcomes that will help our fish stocks remain sustainable without any need for heated debate after all, it's in our own best interests.
kaotik jetty rat
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ive been hooking bronzys
ive been hooking bronzys under 2m off the busso jetty on top,with squid lines,they keep wrapping up in my line an snapping me,hooked 1 last thursdy(6 an half foot) nite an on friday morning(6 foota),but as i said only squid lines so i got snapped both times!
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TheJettyRat
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If they are not protected
If they are not protected there is nothing wrong with taking a few, although you will prob have to throw anything you catch back since there is only small ones hanging around at this time of year isn't that right Howard.
:P :P
Howard George
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Sixty Hammerhead Sharks.
Sixty hammerhead sharks have been spotted at Bunker Bay by the eye in the sky. No photo's yet but you just know the media will be all over it.
TheJettyRat
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That will send the media into
That will send the media into a feeding frenzy.
MattMiller
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What about
the 5m GW the just spotted at Bunkers????
jettyrat
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a good ecosystem
It goes to show that the ecosystem is fine when a dead whale washes up and there is sixty sharks to eat it.