hey guys can someone remind me what PE/m means. iam looking at buying a daiwa reel and iam trying to work out the capacity. its something to do with braid hey?
So, that's generally the diameter covered. So for a given PE rating, the relevant diameter would extrapolate to how many meters you could load. Basically, the greater the PE, the greater the diameter (all else equal) and therefore the less line.
As a general rule of thumb, multiply by 10 to ESTIMATE the breaking strain. But a lot of factors will impinge on the accuracy. As I said, it's only a general rule of theumb, dependent on different lines etc.
The PE number is related to the breaking strain of the the braid. PE 6 is usually 60lb (however in some of the better quality braids PE 6 might equal 78lbs).
A spool with PE6/300 on it means that it should take 300 metres of 60lb braid.
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Colin, im pretty sure you are correct but the diameters may differ, however i think its the same sorta system... referring to diameter...
this is the reason why better braid systems, are still classified according to a lower PE, because thier diameter is still smaller than what standard braid would normally be.
That is why you can get PE6 braid which is up to 78lbs because the braid which has a higher breaking strength although it's diameter is matched to the average of what 60lb would be
Yeah, when PE as a term was getting more bantered around I did a bit of reading on it, and there was a lot of debate over the accuracy and applicability of the '10 times' rule'. Mostly, as you say to varying diameters, BS under and overating etc.
There's obviously quite a range in qualities, profiles, diameters and actual vs claimed BS. As far as I'm aware, the use of the term PE is relatively (speaking) new in Oz, not sure why we moved to that system for gear, I guess to be consistent with international terminology?
And yes Rickets, I've seen a few 'guage - B/S' tables which is why I said that was one.
Im saying that PE ratings is a measurement of braid thickness. A 4-ply braid is pretty much PE x 10 for its breaking strain but that changes when you increase the number of plys of braid but still remaining the same thickness as the 4-ply. All it changes is the diameter of each ply of braid.
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I think I have this right
Hi Johnno
I'm no expert, but as I understand it, PE is the japanese system for rating gel-spun polyethylene - what we commonly refer to as braid.
Loosley speaking, it refers to the line diameter and from that, general convention adopts a broad guaged braking strain.
Here is one table of diameters based on the PE system:
PE No..mm
0.6...0.128
0.8...0.148
1.0...0.165
1.2...0.185
1.5...0.205
1.7...0.218
2.0...0.235
2.5...0.260
3.0...0.285
3.5...0.310
4.0...0.330
5.0...0.370
6.0...0.405
7.0...0.435
8.0...0.470
10.0...0.520
12.0...0.570
14.0...0.620
16.0...0.660
18.0...0.700
20.0...0.740
22.0...0.780
24.0...0.810
28.0...0.870
So, that's generally the diameter covered. So for a given PE rating, the relevant diameter would extrapolate to how many meters you could load. Basically, the greater the PE, the greater the diameter (all else equal) and therefore the less line.
As a general rule of thumb, multiply by 10 to ESTIMATE the breaking strain. But a lot of factors will impinge on the accuracy. As I said, it's only a general rule of theumb, dependent on different lines etc.
I hope thats right :)
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PE Number
The PE number is related to the breaking strain of the the braid. PE 6 is usually 60lb (however in some of the better quality braids PE 6 might equal 78lbs).
A spool with PE6/300 on it means that it should take 300 metres of 60lb braid.
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Colin, im pretty sure you
Colin, im pretty sure you are correct but the diameters may differ, however i think its the same sorta system... referring to diameter...
this is the reason why better braid systems, are still classified according to a lower PE, because thier diameter is still smaller than what standard braid would normally be.
That is why you can get PE6 braid which is up to 78lbs because the braid which has a higher breaking strength although it's diameter is matched to the average of what 60lb would be
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thanx heaps. its all come
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Thanks Rickets
Yeah, when PE as a term was getting more bantered around I did a bit of reading on it, and there was a lot of debate over the accuracy and applicability of the '10 times' rule'. Mostly, as you say to varying diameters, BS under and overating etc.
There's obviously quite a range in qualities, profiles, diameters and actual vs claimed BS. As far as I'm aware, the use of the term PE is relatively (speaking) new in Oz, not sure why we moved to that system for gear, I guess to be consistent with international terminology?
And yes Rickets, I've seen a few 'guage - B/S' tables which is why I said that was one.
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Silk
I thought it had something to do with the thickness of silk and how it compares in size to PE lines
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The PE's thickness are all
The PE's thickness are all the same just the breaking strains that vary, as well as the number of plys of silk/braid/line, etc braided together.
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So what you're saying Honsu
So what you're saying Honsu is that all tables should be the same and if not, all that differ are incorrect? Or have I misunderstood you?
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Im saying that PE ratings is
Im saying that PE ratings is a measurement of braid thickness.
A 4-ply braid is pretty much PE x 10 for its breaking strain but that changes when you increase the number of plys of braid but still remaining the same thickness as the 4-ply. All it changes is the diameter of each ply of braid.
Maybe this will help us clear it up a little:
http://www.westernangler.com.au/default.asp?action=article&ID=242
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