Is it legal to BBQ crays on your boat?

 Hi all

Would appreciate any advice as it isn't stated on the fisheries website but will be overnighting on the boat in Rotto tonight and have got crays in the esky already,is it legal to eat them on board or do I wait till I go home tomorrow?

Just grilling some sausages now and would love to split and grill a couple of crays as well

Thanks

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 There's be no reason why you

Sat, 2016-02-20 11:17

 There's be no reason why you couldn't, but you'd still be restricted to the bag limit (and this doesn't mean you can bbq 4 then still take the bag limit home with you. In other words if the bag limit is 5 and you cook 4 then you're allowed to take home 1 for that day)

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No evidence. They no longer

Sat, 2016-02-20 11:24

No evidence. They no longer exist.

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 There certainly is that

Sat, 2016-02-20 11:33

 There certainly is that aspect to it and whilst it is highly unlikely for this to happen the fisheries officers have in their power the right to film or videotape a person whilst they are fishing and if they can prove that you had in your possession over the daily bag limit then they can take action against you. It's just like if you decide to catch 12 herring on the way out for bait that doesn't give you the right to catch another 12 on the way back in to take home with you.

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Lol like to see that

Sat, 2016-02-20 12:30

 Crays can be cooked on boat. Just stick to regs on how there caught. Fisheries have got some good gear no dought. Love to see them try that one

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 Thanks for the replies

Sat, 2016-02-20 12:33

 Thanks for the replies

As i thought but just checking, crays on the grill now  

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yes

Sat, 2016-02-20 13:56

 yes you can.
Annoys me a little that laws can be so complicated that law abiding people are continually worried about whether they are "allowed to do something" so harmless and simple.

But thats the way the Gov likes it-your never 100% sure that you arent doing something wrong when you get pulled over etc ...

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 People who stay on bigger

Sat, 2016-02-20 14:29

 People who stay on bigger boats over at rotto for extended stays (read...  the filthy rich...) would be eating crayfish for lunch almost every day.  Its the first thing you do in the morning isnt it?  After youre morning dip.  Go check the cray pot and then make lunch.  Cray fish salad.

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 Now where it gets tricky is

Sat, 2016-02-20 15:19

 Now where it gets tricky is you have all assumed that you are catching and eating your own crays, Now consider you have purchased a dozen (if you can afford that many) tails are not clipped and you are sitting on your boat cooking these and fisheries pull up.

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 Now where it gets tricky is

Sat, 2016-02-20 15:19

 Now where it gets tricky is you have all assumed that you are catching and eating your own crays, Now consider you have purchased a dozen (if you can afford that many) tails are not clipped and you are sitting on your boat cooking these and fisheries pull up.

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Interesting question Tom

Sat, 2016-02-20 15:28

 I suppose you had better keep the receipt from the fish monger or you might be in trouble.

 Im inclined to go with Rob H on this. Its a shame that we have to worry about such things  

 

  

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 The regs quite clearly state

Sat, 2016-02-20 15:50

 The regs quite clearly state that if you are carrying any commercially purchased seafood you have to produce a receipt on demand

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So as long as you've got a

Sat, 2016-02-20 19:38

So as long as you've got a receipt for crayfish bought previously you can carry unclipped crayfish on your boat?

Seems a bit open to abuse for those willing to put in the effort

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 Yes it does get a bit over

Sat, 2016-02-20 16:09

 Yes it does get a bit over the top, I have a reciept for a dozen purchased 2 months earlier and have kept them in the freezer all that time but only brought 4 out on the boat this day. I guess the same goes for eating fish on board your boat? Too crazy.

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 DING.......Next stop

Sat, 2016-02-20 16:23

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Know a few

Sat, 2016-02-20 19:54

That cook up undersize. Not my thing though but some people love their crays

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Interesting conversation.

Sat, 2016-02-20 20:30

 Fisheries do have to justify their jobs, But really !!!!! Which ever way you look at it, law abiding citizens should not feel they are doing wrong by LIVING.

We are lucky to catch our bag limit at any time where i live,  because the pro's are allowed extreme bag limits of mud crab ( 1000 Crab per week is normal for one pro ), As a recreational fisher, i can take 5, not allowed to use enclosed traps etc etc etc.

People that have the mindset of thinking they can't eat a cray on a boat, without getting in trouble, tell me that ideals are so much better with rec fishers nowadays then 15 years ago. Hooray to us !!! 

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And this does not just apply

Mon, 2016-02-22 12:41

And this does not just apply to Crayfish.

On a recent trip to Steep Point we took about 20Kgs of bait. We used almost none of it as we were going to bag out with Mackerel.

So our group of 4 had a very carefully weighed 74kgs of fillets stored in the freezer. So whats the go with the bait. Even with proof of purchase we were now over our total limit of 80Kgs. It's worth pondering, but I do know the answer. It's OK. Even though biat does count in your possession limits, with proof of purchase on said bait, your are sort of covered. 

However having said all of this, all of the fillets were in ONE of the TWO cars we took up. So now with only 2 people in the car and 80+ Kgs of Fillets and bait, trouble could be lurking just around the corner. So another gray area. And there are a few more, but thats another story.

 

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Keeping live crays

Mon, 2016-02-22 15:55

I have noticed some people on launches keep multiple days catch live off the side of their boat for extended rotto stays. What would be the rules regarding that. Say for example 1 license holder on board and 12 crays hanging off the side but caught on consecutive days...

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 I think this one comes under

Mon, 2016-02-22 16:08

 I think this one comes under the "in your Possession" rules not the daily bag limits.

 

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accumulating bag limits

Mon, 2016-02-22 18:48

this is exactly a change we tried to bring in at the last round of Recfishwest lobster committee round of talks early last year.
At the moment Fisheries interpretation seems that you cannot accumulate a cray bag limit even if it stays inside the boat limit as you describe above-even though as far as I know it is not written different to any other fish (accumulate say coral trout on an Abrolhos trip for example)

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