FWA weekend shows

Don't know about you, but i'm starting to warm to the ol FWA show again..

The two shows over the weekend were pretty good, and that pinnacle they were fishing down south, magic!!!

Thought both episodes were pretty good.. Along with ET on Saturday as well, even though it was a bit slow, I still rate ET as a host and think the shows worth watching.. Good to see some fishing on tv atleast..

Looks like next weeks FWA is going to be the one to watch, or so they say.. Look foward to that one..!

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Mon, 2005-11-07 11:22

Kalbari Tailor was fun...even though I would still toss the prensenter over the side at Blackrock and make him swim back....he carries on like a tool...


Did you see the expression on "the new deckie's" face...said 'I dont want to be here!!'


And all the crew standing on the flybridge of the charter they went on ..catching 'huge' red throat ...looked like they where just trying to stay out of the way of the mouth...


didnt see ET what day was that????

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Weekend Shows

Mon, 2005-11-07 11:33

ET was on saturday at 4;30 i think.. Was skippy and black and silver bream in an eastern river system.. pretty good fish with soft plastics..

Yeh.. Must admit that the 'excitement' levels for the kalbarri tailor were a little overkill! Lol, actually, it was the first thing the boys mentioned as well..

Did like the underwater camera for the lumo squids and ryan's sambo on the relatively light penn gear was pretty exceptional..  As for the mouth, LOL LOL LOL.. yeh, there was a lot of deckspace at the back now i remember, lol!

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I must agree with adam on

Mon, 2005-11-07 18:21

I must agree with adam on this one, WTF WAS THAT RIG?!

As for a dhuhie on a trembler, it was the GT jig version so it weights 178g as opposed to 125g that a normal one does, so i suppose it could work up here too. Alltho from the looks of things he is probably on a "private" lump that only a few fisho's know about, you know like all the secret ones we have up here(well some of us haha not me ! )

Cant steve just keep quiet for a little while tho, it would make the show much more enjoyable if i didnt here screaming every 2 seconds :p  Heh i like how ryan pipped steve on the squid fishing tho, either ryans got a good tactic or steve doesnt have any!

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tec side of show

Tue, 2005-11-08 10:42

Just hope the camerman stops waving the cam about ,that efort was as poor as you could get ,woeful filming .re Adam's comment Its on film ,hard to refute ,rather surprizing what a good editer can do,after all its not the first show I have seen with the same fish caught up to 3 times .

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Good point

Tue, 2005-11-08 11:17

Yeh.. I didn't think photo or video editing was done for mags and shows..

Not hard to catch a fish, hook it up on another rig, send it back down and pretend its fighting for its life with light drag.. just depends how badly you want to prove your point.. put it this way, i may have seen it on tv, but you won't see me with a giant trembler trying for dhufish every week.. but, all in all, it was a great catch if it was legit..

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yeh thats true, id imagine

Wed, 2005-11-09 18:12

yeh thats true, id imagine the rig would tangle on the way down something chronic.

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New FWA mag

Thu, 2005-11-10 08:51

Quite liked this months FWA mag.. plenty of good reading in it and some nice articles as well..

Bought my self a new Ian Miller T-curve 24kg Jig Stick yesterday.. the old bank account is hurting badly, but its damn sexy.. .cant wait to get out there and try it.. and ordered a new spool for the spheros 12000fa, so now will have 50 pound and 30 pound braid.. going to a big jigging season..

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Only 50lb? :p

Thu, 2005-11-10 20:52

Only 50lb? :p

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Jigging

Fri, 2005-11-11 06:18

Nice setup Adam,


I also recently have upgraded but went for the Daiwa saltist with a 18-24kg ugly stick black tiger - is awesome to use. We were using 50lb braid out there last year and didnt lose any so you just have to ease back a bot on them unlike my mate who now has 100lb and can bring them up at warp 10 speed. Bring them on...

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ive contempated getting a

Fri, 2005-11-11 08:19

ive contempated getting a deul speedy 20 too, used it last year for jigging and loved it. But the saltist is a nice reel to use too. Decisions decisions.

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Fri, 2005-11-11 09:02

Yeh, mate said should be able to bring a 25-30kg sambo up in around 8-10 mins now.. sounds good to me..

I think anything over 50 might be a bit overkill, theres bringing them in quick, and then theres skulldragging the life out of them..  But then again, if you play them right, they should be fine anyway..

Saltist is definately nice.. so many good reels out there to choose from at the moment..

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You might think anything

Fri, 2005-11-18 15:32

You might think anything over 50 is overkill, but I know AB reccommends 80 minimum, and Ive seen why, especially with the hassles 50lb can give - the fish can get a little run on and reap havoc on the other anglers or stitch you up (which can prove costly).  And also its a good idea to drag them as soon as you can as it gives a superior survival rate for the release of fish, im getting a Spheros 14000 with 80 on it.  Spare spool with maybe 30 or 50 on it.


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tec side of show - revisited

Fri, 2005-11-11 10:32


It was with interest that I read fishoutofwater's comment re: FWA program and it's shortcomings with the technical side.


As I understand it you have made a DVD (which I have seen), and so you of all people would know how hard it is to make a production.


Small boats, very sloppy seas, balance, spray, audio, wind, and temperament are all but some of the anomalies that have to be juggled when trying to produce a show.


This coupled with it being a small production (yes... I do Camera, as well as sound, as well as the editing), means that we don't always have the luxury of editing from another camera.


As far as the story you were critising, if you have been in that channel, you will know that it is very sloppy, and that it is unpredictable. And if you had used your imagination, you will have also realised that this is part of the story.


As for the technical side, we have strict criteria that we must abide by to get our show to air and to this day Channel 9 have always been pleased with our efforts. The show consistently rates in the 150,000s plus, and with numbers like these you can imagine that we are here to please the majority, not the frustrated 'wannebe's' who have to make DVD's (badly I might add), and whinge on forums like these.

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Fri, 2005-11-11 12:02

Well.. after that all I can say is.. its still the best fishing show on TV.. so, obviously you guys are doing something right..

And as for the channel, saw the episode last year, or the one before, so i can understand that you may have been a little nervous, lol.. I couldn't imagine a bow wave would be too good for a camera's health..

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, which is what forums are for, all I ask is that its kept civil..

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Fri, 2005-11-11 14:49

Gone are the days when all I had to look forward to was rex hunt at 5.30 on Saturday evenings.  Keep up the good work FWA, you produce arguably the best fishing program on television.  Lets hope the sponsors stay on board for many seasons to come 


I think that it is all too easy to attack the tall popies and BIG (you all know who I mean) personalities.  These guys have exposed many forms of sports fishing to the wider population by sharing their passion for fishing.  They were one of the early trend setters when it comes to discussion forums such as this and have promoted the sport we all love with aplomb


Good on you guys and keep up the good work



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FWA Saturday Show

Sat, 2005-11-12 12:27

Well well well.. what a good show this morning!!!

A dumbell smashed in half, now that is something special.. really liked the underwater shots as a bit of a change up.. definately one of the best fwa shows i've seen throughout all the series.. well done to the guys, now to get myself to the mackie islands!!!

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pissing my self laughing

Fri, 2005-11-18 09:30

 We film on 5m and under re boats, we know the dramas we dont make excuses like you just did .Would you like a  camerpersons who can hold a shot in shitty seas .we have 5 to choose from including women  . Wanna bes lol what a Joke .We do it for Fun . Would like to make it clear the fwa show tec side has always been good over all the comment was re; the waving the camera about  seams I hit a nerve personaly o well never mind. Mr Cameraman.is there a problem with using your real name to sit and make comment about anything when you appear to lack the courage and conviction to put your balls behind the statement .

On  Postive note the Gt"s in 2-3 m of water looks like hell fun.visial action is awesome .

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dvds badly

Fri, 2005-11-18 14:45

Hello to the cameraman ,
                                    My name is Jutta I filmed and edited the dvd ,Thanks for your opion .Can you please send me the very first vision you shot and the very first editing you did with the very first vision. So I can pass a opion on your work being that I unpacked the camera in exmouth and read a book, then Ian got me a computer and program so I had to learn to turn that on let alone edit .I"m saying this so we can be fair to each other on the matter of badly.

                                   Do you need lessons on how to stand on a boat in a bit of chop so the veiwers dont get sea sick .You are a professional .I know Ian would have tossed you off the boat with that poor efort with the camera .

                                    When you learn to stand on a boat in a sea and hold the camera still untill then you are in  no postion to past comment on my work .

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wow the wife is init as well

Fri, 2005-11-18 15:07

 This does not happen very often Jutta challanging a person . I see  postive thing in this sort of pinging at each others work for the veiwer .It can only make us and the other crews streach to try and deliver a better product as long as we are all seen to be moving forward it has to be good overall for the veiwers.


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Tue, 2005-11-22 12:16

It seems that you lads are a bit sensitive... and as far as putting my balls on the line (sounds like something a typical fisherman would say), all you need to do is look at the credits. If that is to hard then I will make it easy... it is Mark Jones.


As for your mates comments about being self taught, I think that is fantastic and the only way to learn. As for my experience, I am also self taught. I first picked up a camera with Malcolm Douglas some 15 years ago and did a 6 week trip to PNG in a boat that was less than 5 metres. I worked for him for ten years and made 15 docos.


I am not going to argue over the semantics of filming... it is futile. I understand that if you make something for TV, it is open for public opinion, but I do have the right to a rebuttal... and anyway, do you hear me having a go at your skills to sell cars... I wouldn't dare.


Happy fishing and filming.

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Why argue about filming, gee

Tue, 2005-11-22 14:38

Why argue about filming, gee we should be arguing about them not using a release weight in 60m of water up at the abrohlas 3 weeks ago or down at Canal Rocks 2 weeks ago .all looks sweet with the Jewie swimming off and camera pans away.sadly the fish dont make it too the bottom, they just float up. and we wonder why people bag us on C&R


Honestly.I cant stand that peanut.Ryan has got a clue but that peanut is holding him down.He actuall told me 2 years ago he didnt fish for bottom fish.Hence why he didnt know what a release weight was.Then 2 months later he writes a article about using the lilley bomb.Bloody funny that thats what the release weight was called when it was first invented.Pitty pride gets in the way, apperently ryan has asked too use this on film.He has declined.Maybe he dont like me either


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Strange

Wed, 2005-11-23 09:21

Bit strange that they wouldn't allow footage of the release weight?   Can you shed any light on this Mark?  Or is it just Steve's preference.

As for working for Malcolm Douglas, I'm sure you would have had some amazing experiences and seen some fishing feats over the years..  Could only imagine...

As for the criticism over filming techniques, we take a little handycam out and know how hard it is to get good footage.. as you can tell from my videos ;)  I think the FWA footage is excellent, its the commentry that frustrates me.. But, you can't win them all..  Keep up the good work..

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Good luck Adam.Steve told me

Wed, 2005-11-23 15:38

Good luck Adam.Steve told me to shove the release weight up my arse then slamed the phone downMind you he suggested too attach a undersize Jewie too 3kg line with a hook and snap it off in the print mag. either leaving the hook in the jewies mouth or ripping the mouth too pieces

Toooooo much pride as someone said too me one day.tell him its a f&&" n Prawn Star then he will use it


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Just jokes

Wed, 2005-11-23 22:25



Or..... you could attach the jewie to a giant trembler drop it to the bottom and pretend that it was caught bottom bouncing!!!


That segment was truely amazing!!


PS: Malcolm Douglas is a legend....

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The real deal!

Thu, 2005-11-24 01:12


* Firstly, Mark Jones would have to be one of the best Camerman out there today and I'm humbled to be filmed by a man who has been Malcolm Douglas's camerman for many, many years.  Marks internationally known as a camerman so dont be fooled, he is very good, hense why FWA sourced him!


* I've asked Steve re: putting the release weight on TV and he said "no probs", admittingly Wally is "spot on" re us using it more often for education and this I'll address. I've used it on TV a few times but in rushed situations, this will change in the future also.
* The dhufish Steve caught were legit, I was envious actually, especially when the dhufush was caught on my Halco GT jig (Trembler lure)


* Thanks for the positive posts re FWA TV series being enjoyable, hard to beat, try it yourself.........not easy, trust me!



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That would be great Ryan, be

Thu, 2005-11-24 17:39

That would be great Ryan, be good too see it on TV. Maybe get a few pointers from that fat mate of mine that gave ya a visit the other day,He seems too know what he is talking about most of the time.well 95% of the time  Doing it from a high guner rail needs pratice ( charter boats), but with a little advice forn the fat man you would be sorted


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Filming soon!

Thu, 2005-11-24 22:50

Hi Wally,


Yeh I'm going to call Gary in the next few days, we're filming on a charter boat soon that is 56ft long and has very high gunwhales. I will sort out the best release technique as we plan to get dhufish and I want to use the release weight definately. I need to find a successful way to  release demersal fish from a hight, I've tried it so far (filming) and struggled a bit, there has to be a better technique!


I've finally got heaps of "release weights" for the shop, I had to "scream" at the supplier as I was sick of having them on backorder for ages, I was told all the excusses however it's all sorted now!






Cheers



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Ryan from a charter boat is

Fri, 2005-11-25 16:55

Ryan from a charter boat is definately harder.I went off one last year from Two Rocks and showed them how to do it.definately a two man job and you need to lean right over.Beleive me in a big swell and a strong easterly it isnt easy.but as they say practice makes perfect


I would suggest get steve hold the rod in free spool. then strip a fair bit of line off.then lean over and drop the fish from as  less distance as you can,Making sure the release weight hits the water first and yell at steve when the fish hits the water so he is ready too thumb the spool.Once the slack of the line has been taken up wich you could see.Gently thumb the spool  to aviod over run


Hope this helps and from a high distance its definately a 2 man job.Filming it on the FWA boat should be a breeze and gets everyone involved then


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Solution!

Sat, 2005-11-26 00:05

Hi Wally,


Your idea sounds good, that was the only way I thought do-able also.


I had no probs on the FWA boat for dhufish and mulloway when I was just fishing (no filming) however the few times I've used the weight (filming) its been on larger charter vessels.


I'll put this technique into action soon, we're filming in Jurien Bay, will be good for education as mentioned!



Cheers



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Re:Solution

Thu, 2006-01-26 11:25

what a laugh


I watch these show's and DVD's just like every one else doe's and they are all a good watch, but when you read post from full grown men fighting and arguing over video footage it's just sick, you guy's argue like my kids, also puts me off coming to fishwrecked and other forum's because that's all you read,  BOYS it's a fishing site not a bitching site, take a look at the US fishing forums post like this get delete every quickly. And by the way keep up the video filming it's great to watch I dont care were it come's from.


Just my two cent worth.


TT

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Solution solved

Thu, 2006-01-26 13:42

Don't worry Tommy, we have been thru this and the issue has been resolved.

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Fishing ego's

Sat, 2006-02-04 20:16

Seems, not much has changed, with Fishing egos, longer than the boats they fish on and posting ego's with more megabytes than the websites they post at!


Whats worse is anglers who think they have to cut someone else down to their size - in order to make themselves look bigger!


Really people - get a life! Better still - go fishing!


What productive purpose was acieved with this thread?


How was anyones enjoyment of angling enhanced by it?


Thats the sign of a good "mooderator" - threads like this vaporise 'bout as fast as high modulous graphite when it's high sticked!


Cheers!

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Ego's

Sun, 2006-02-05 10:15

We have covered this.

Please read this thread: FWA Cameraman

http://fishwrecked.com/node/1178

Opinions are fine, personal agendas aren't.

This thread will be locked from now on, as a good moderator would do :)

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