Dead pinks 2
Submitted by little johnny on Fri, 2015-11-20 19:01
Washing up on shore now in front of my work. Just took this then. There gills look burnt. This one not that long dead. Thought it was seal. More washing up. This is not looking good for stocks at all. A good 12 plus kilo female in picture
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choc
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This is not good.Wonder what
This is not good.
Wonder what is causing this? Is it affecting the edibility of crays?
It looks very burnt around dorsil fins, gills and mouth.
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vinniefisho
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Could it have been from the
Could it have been from the lightning or not?
Hutch
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Huh?
Huh?
MattMiller
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Lol
lol
Brock O
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Looks Old
Big hump head!
more? That's a worry, hopefully fisheries jump straight on it and investigate!
Jim
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Id say when you have a huge
Id say when you have a huge concentration of snapper in the sound you will get a few die of natural causes.
Bend over
little johnny
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No it's not lightening
This is all our breeding stock . Still fresh ones washing up. Something last 3 days killing them and still is. Very serious. Will it hit crabs and mussels??
Ush
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Is it in the sound? Appears
Is it in the sound? Appears to be concerning, might want to report to fisheries, or a governmental dept to test water quality.?
Got keen?
Paul_86
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There's certainly something
There's certainly something fishy going on ;)
But in all seriousness this doesn't look good at all. Hopefully the fish stop turning up dead very soon and some test show what's going.
Jim
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Just saw other post and
Just saw other post and doesnt seem good at all.
Bend over
meglodon
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Notify Dof about finding dead snapper
May I suggest that F/W members send an Email to fisheries informing them of what is being found in the sound and ask them to undertake testing to ascertain the cause for these iconic fish losses in the breeding season.
Add to your Email that the urgency of their undertaking to solve this potentially devastating event cannot be overstated and you look forward to their testing results being published as soon as the cause for the deaths becomes clear.
If we don't notify the relevant authorities we cannot expect the problem/cause to be identified and hopefully neutralized.
little johnny
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They have know for 4 days
I wouldn't be eating a thing out the sound atm. All types of fish dying. Has it hit crabs and occy they don't float. Talking to someone earlier. Evey level of water column been affected.4 days now how long ? How many? And what is it. Going for swim tomoz be interested if I see dead crabs . find out . I hope my pet Dhue still alive. Been swimming with it for years
Broome lad
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Reported
I reported it to fisheries today after I saw it but it was just a lady on the line asking wher was it how many what time and this is you reference number ..
EL SYD
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Updates?
Updates?
choc
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This is one for the media. I
This is one for the media. I don't normally like them, but when they start plastering this all over the news something tends to get done quicker.
EL SYD
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Nothing on the Cockburn
Nothing on the Cockburn Sound Fishers Facebook page
uncle
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Could be an absolute
Environmental disaster. Is it safe to dive John?
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EL SYD
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Does RecFishwest know about
Does RecFishwest know about this?
uncle
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I think everyone knows
trying to keep a lid on it ?? need the facts I suppose
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Howard George
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Desal Plant.
I'm wondering if the Desal plant in Cockburn Sound has got any-thing to do with this.
Broome lad
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Recfish
I sent an email with a pic to recfishwest suppose the more people that see it might get something done to find out wtf is going on in sound .
Moking
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Got message sent this
Got message sent this morning that snapper and big northwest blowies washed up dead on beach from Kwinana Beach up to Challenger Beach.
Even the seagulls won't touch them?
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little johnny
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Funny that
Had mate pick up couple last night in front of my work. For testing Moking . Channel 7 phoned fisheries didn't get much luck. Had 2 trying to swim then float. Came back into shore done same again few times. Unsure bugger eating fish from cockburn until source found .5 days now still having effects? Got me all the hard work fisheries done over last 10 years gone. All big boys in sound atm breeding its a massive loss and shame. Seen turns eating dead bait this morn of top of water?? Let's see what happens in coming days. Surely we should find out?? Don't eat yor squid Moking you may end up with 3 heads:):)
axey45
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Has someone spilt a large
Has someone spilt a large amout of fuel or fertilizer or was it marina?
Lastchance
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Wasn't Michael Yoni taking
Wasn't Michael Yoni taking his pool testing kit down to get to the bottom of it?
sea-kem
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Yep he's all over it.
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Michael Yoni
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Couldn't find a cause. But
Couldn't find a cause.
But i did see a box trailer down there. Lol.
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Brand new update
Everything on my favorite safe dive spot dead. Sea urchins all wrasse the lot laying in bottom. My Dhue dead. Only thing alive is bullseyes. This is just outside coat hanger. All dead fish rocko end of sound . Maybe someone should dive this spot. All gone. No wonder Crays running early. This is crap .???
Moking
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Geez Johnny- I know you
Geez Johnny- I know you wouldn't joke about something like this! But that sounds bloody unbelievable.
Someone needs a underwater camera to be a witness to this.
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petermac
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on the money john
it is crap , some one is responsible suss to the navy , only going to worse if the mangles bay development goes ahead
smiley
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why peter
where does that informed comment come from
petermac
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that coment
it comes from a person that doesn't want a marina in mangles bay it cant be good for the ecology of that bay its still pristine I am no greeny but why cant we just leave it be, crab stocks have died of as it is in the bay , my old school mate that is a muliti millionare and lives in rocky also disagrees with me but that's why we live in Australia allowed to disagree
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Mangles
Cant wait for the Mangles development to go ahead.
Scotte
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Such a shame . seems a lot
Such a shame . seems a lot of pinks spawn just outside sound this year
Broome lad
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Fishing
Still a shit load of people fishing in a round the coat hanger area thismorning I told a few people about what's going on none of them new anything obout this saw more floating snapper today aswell .
Howard George
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RecfishWest
RecfishWest have put out a statement regarding this.
Vinesh87
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Have you got link ?
Have you got link ?
Vinesh87
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Recfish Facebook: 'Recent
Recfish Facebook:
'Recent Fish Deaths in Cockburn Sound! Recfishwest are following this up.
This was brought to our attention this morning. We have not had any contact with the Department of Fisheries at this stage.
This is extremely concerning particularly at a time when pink snapper are aggregating in the area for spawning.
Immediate action must be taken to find the source these mystery fish deaths.
The recreational fishing community are distressed at seeing large dead pink snapper and numerous other fish species washing up along shoreline around the sound.
Recfishwest understand that dead pink snapper and other fish were first been observed floating on the water throughout the sound 2days ago.
It is well known that Cockburn Sound is home to the largest know aggregations of pink snapper in the West Coast Bioregion and is critical for sustaining adequate breeding stocks throughout the region.
Recfishwest has had concerns about water quality issues in the Sound since the collapse of the crab fishery in 2010.
We know that invertebrates such as crabs and larval fish are more sensitive and vulnerable to pollution.
We understand samples have been collected by concerned fishers and provided to the authorities.
More to come.'
burnz
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Not good at all... Seems
Not good at all... Seems like something dodgy has happened. Hope the truth comes out and if someone is responsible they are held accountable.
Ashen
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Very sad news indeed..
Very sad news indeed..
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Sea-weed
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Maybe they've all been down
Maybe they've all been down to Fitzys elite boxing and coped the old 1 - 2 from Petermac and could never recover?
But on a serious note... This is bad news but with the amount of industry on its shores possibly an accident waiting to happen?
scottnofish
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came through there this arvo
Got to the coat hanger and you vould smell the rotting fish everywhere.i counted at least 6 snapper over a meter and dozens of
Smaller ones all along the groin there were flathead herring tailor whiting you name it .was the worst thing i think i ve seen on the water .need to find out whats going on .
meglodon
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Such carnage
To have such a large effect it must be one hell of an event, I don't believe a minor spill incident could cause such damage to a wide variety of fish stocks. I'm not saying it is caused by a spill by some industry, however I wonder how long it will be before we see a great white washed up. Then the greenies will be up in arms until then their silence is deafening.
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No such leg meg. Maybe tell
No such leg meg. Maybe tell the greenies whatever it is is good to bath in and they all carck it?!
Broome lad
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Getting worse
What ever it is must still be killing fish because when I first saw the snapper 2 days goo I had a good look around and only saw snapper in the days following the reports a growing and more and more species affected people need to know not to eat fish from the sound if they manage to catch a live one ..
Dale
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Nothing in the media yet either, thought something as catastrophic as this, as that's what it is, would be ringing alarm bells everywhere.
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Howard George
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Alert
I've alerted all the media outlets regarding this lets see what happens.
little johnny
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It all started from
Garden island. Sth end first fish going belly up?? Can't be industry up that end?cant be fish virus. Killing urchins. Must be very powerful . Everyone left in lurch. No news from anyone.6 th day tomoz. Technology now days they would have found out by now surely. Hush hush???I would have started by informing people instantly?? Don't take fish. Poo spill in s/ bay was broadcast asap.
axey45
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Well it must be the NAVY?
Well it must be the NAVY? Government ha.
Chinbald
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Concerning
Seeing big fish washed up is disheartening. Still nothing in the media?
Willlo
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wasn't there a sewage spill
wasn't there a sewage spill during the week? I just googled fish kill Rockingham and that and the dredging were the first items to come up
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Dale
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If their was, it would have to have been quite a large spill and everybody would have heard about that.
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Willlo
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sorry my bad reread it and that was back in may hope it hasn't happened again very surprised there hasn't been more on the news about it
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Boydy
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Geez this is bad news, I hope
Geez this is bad news, I hope there is an explanation ASAP.
Multiple species affected, breeding stock taken out....
Glad I got my feed today a lot further south diving.
Broome lad
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What to do
Just spoke to my old boy about what's happened in the sound one of his favorate places to go catch a squid he reckons someone needs to get onto the local member of parliament whoever the hell that is and send him some pics and an email so I'll try and find out who he is and send him some of the pics I got and maby others should do the same so something get done about this .
burnz
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Perhaps the lack of media
Perhaps the lack of media attention is saying something because they must have had a hundred calls about it by now... No statement from fisheries... Starting to think Navy..
ranmar850
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Water temps not unusual?
If not, and toxicity tests show nothing, maybe Burnz is on to it. Do the subs berth inside there? if someone fucked up and turned on a pinging sonar at full blast it would kill and disorient things for miles? Any ex-Navy on here with real knowledge?
Moking
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Not sure about that- but
Not sure about that- but seen as the Navy came out on there rib on Friday to warn/alert us about the dead snapper on Garden Island,maybe there was more to it than just warning us?
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little johnny
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Good one .
Unusual that one. I bet there is nothing left in small boats compound. Or bay next to it correening bay ( whatever it's called). S wester blowing them towards industry. Who knows . I bet know one will. Fisheries need to put fins on and swim
Howard George
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WA Today.
WA Today just posted the fish deaths.
Moking
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oday.com.au/wa-news/mystery-
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/mystery-surrounds-death-of-700-fish-found-dead-in-cockburn-sound-20151122-gl4usr.html
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Guardy
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Fisheries have made a statement
http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/About-Us/Media-releases/Pages/Fisheries-investigating-Cockburn-Sound-fish-deaths.aspx
But nothing really new, just that they are investigating.
burnz
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Wouldnt expect any answers
Wouldnt expect any answers today being a Sunday, hopefully tomorrow or Tuesday we get answers, and its not just swept under the rug.. Good to see its getting some media attention now, although you would expect Channels 7 and 9 to be jumping all over this..
bradz
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Must be military related
I'm thinking it's military related. If it were industrial or environmental someone would be all over it by now.
Military can keep things quiet alot easier and just claim "national security" issues.
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Auslobster
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Was on the southern flats yesterday....
...with Eric (uluabuster), and saw several dead pinkies floating past, but the herring, pike and snook were out and about in their usual numbers, so figure that one out! Maybe because those types of fish tend to spend more time away from the bottom?
Real mystery this one...you'd think the authorities (whoever they may be) would at least have notified the public by now about a potential "dangerous to consume seafood" situation.
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That is interesting, maybe
That is interesting, maybe the pinks floated with the current but the killing substance didn't?
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Mulie
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Fisheries Pathology
Hello,
I have just spoken to Paul Hillier who is with the Fisheries Pathology section. They are unable to ascertain what is causing this at the moment due to the fish being collected are too far gone to give them any real knowledge about what is going on. He has asked that if any of you come accross a sick and still alive fish, call him ASAP on 0409 373 063 for collection. This would give them a much better chance of identifying the cause.
Cheers
Mulie
Moking
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From what I've been told
From what I've been told this bloke at Fisheries Patholgy Section is onto it- hopefully something will be anounced soon.
Less general specutation and more facts.
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uncle
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Good one
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meglodon
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Anyone seen any dolphins in the sound recently
Just a question has anyone seen any dolphins in the sound recently. If this event is killing everything from top to bottom in the water column then everything can be assumed to be at risk.
grantarctic1
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If that
If that happened, we would have seen a massive response from every authority available, Instead we get a pathetic delayed response and still no warnings to swimmers or fishers as far as I have seen
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plenty of dolphins in sound
plenty of dolphins in sound yesterday 21/11/15 although this was on the northeastern side of GI
meglodon
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Question ?
Is it legal to collect the dead floating snapper for cray bait.
little johnny
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Phoned other day
While they where kicking on surface.( lol) Imagine explaining to fisheries when they check you with pinks still kicking on deck no thanks. Put on scuba gear they can get plenty of fresh samples. Prior to them bloating and floating. Someone can die months later still give cause of death. I may watch to much T.V:):):). Going under causeway this morn with nth East was vulgar.
lachieH
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Oh no! Crocodile Dundee has
Oh no! Crocodile Dundee has been in the sound again...
being serious here, this is not good. It may be like the Black Plague of fish, on the other post I saw they had been dead up north as well? Was thinking of heading up to yanchep during the week for a morning tailor fish, but I'm not risking anything by going fishing for food...
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Notorious
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Somebody said the navy was
Somebody said the navy was doing radiation testing on its vessels the other day - then all these snapper wash up dead.
Not good.
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that would explain why the
that would explain why the snappers gills looked burnt, and also why the media are keeping this quiet because the navy are involved...
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sackshaker
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Plenty of big healthy sand
Plenty of big healthy sand whiting in the channel today.......
Dont worry i won't be eating them.
Hutch
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Good to see Al Macglashan
Good to see Al Macglashan posting about this, hopefully some answers are uncovered soon.
Swompa
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What species have been
What species have been showing up dead other than Snapper?
With constant reports of Sharks in the sound I would have thought we would be seeing 10kg sharks washing up too.
little johnny
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Lol
I wish.
Moking
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Went out today Southern End
Went out today Southern End of Cockburn Sound- nothing seen floating on surface.
At boat ramp this morning: Fisheries and Research divers.
Also snapper, cobbler, blowies washed up onto Palm Beach and Rockingham Beach this morning. Seen Rockingham Council tractor scooping up dead fish from foreshore.
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Are the fish still dying? Or
Are the fish still dying? Or are all the dead ones from wednesday/thursday? The news last night showed long dead fish but not any fresh dead ones, if that makes sense. If there are no more fish dying and the dead ones are from last week does that rule out pollution? Or would the pollution have diluted and drifted off with the current, killing fish in the meantime. Must've been wide spread as the news showed a dead dhuie washed up.
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jamey ford
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Someone posted on Facebook
Someone posted on Facebook that the council drains the local duckppnds this time of year could be botulism as that water is filthy apparently its happened before.
Far Quirk!
Broome lad
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Recfishwest
Hi all , I got an email reply from the Recfishwest guys today after I sent them an email on saterday that are extremely concerned about what is happening in the sound I will try and copy & paste it on here when I get to my pc can't seem to do it from my phone.
petermac
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not just fish
heading out yesterday my mate said "hey look at that some one must be cooking there crays up out here " went and had a look about 10 full cray caracaras floating on the surface
Broome lad
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Recfishwest reply
Thanks for your email and your concerns re the Cockburn Sound Fish Kills. We were made aware of the incident on Saturday and we were out on the water yesterday to see for ourselves the extent of this incident.
We’ve contact the Department of Fisheries and are awaiting their findings of the kills.
We’re extremely concerned and simply whatever has caused this is just not good enough – we’re asking authorities for answers in terms of what’s being done to get to the bottom of this.
When we know more, all fishers will be notified. Watch this space.
Thanks again for your support
Kind Regards
Tim Grose
Communications Manager BSc
0411 393 977
Moking
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Garden Island/Rockingham -
Garden Island/Rockingham - Dead Fish latest news this morning video link:
http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/pollution-may-have-killed-hundreds-of-fish-in-cockburn-sound-scientist-20151124-gl6b7y.html
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