Cray Pot Pullers
Submitted by Sambo84 on Thu, 2015-10-22 09:50
its only been a week and my pots are getting pulled by someone else every day before i get there even if im pulling the first one at 5am. now if i see you and catch you you better hope god is on your side. we put in alot of effort,time and money every year for some other prick to pull your pots. low life scum better hope i dont catch you or you will be swimming with the fishes italian style!
D_d_001
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how do you know they are
how do you know they are getting pulled?
Sambo84
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i have 2 bait baskets on
i have 2 bait baskets on each pot which i put a cable tie on to stop octopus opening them up. also each day i go out there each pot is about 50-80m of the mark.
rigpig
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where are you out of mate?
I hear it happening a bit already down rocko way...I'm putting mine in tomorrow and its the one thing I'm dreading, getting them stolen.
Walfootrot
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Ties are cut? Why would a
Ties are cut? Why would a poaching prick check your bait? Running enough weights? Just asking
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
Sambo84
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plenty of weights i have ex
plenty of weights i have ex pro pots and have done the trick for years. ties are cut i guess so all my bait goes and no crays for me in the morning
D_d_001
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yeah that sucks. thought one
yeah that sucks. thought one of mine was pulled the other day but not sure....was off the mark and the cable tie I used for excess rope was broken. (pretty strong tie)
Scotte
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Move them somewhere else!
Move them somewhere else! bloody thieves.
D_d_001
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does the bait look eaten?
does the bait look eaten? look like there have been crays in it....legs ?
Sambo84
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nah not eaten, but a cable
nah not eaten, but a cable tie was in the bait basket and had a clean cut to it.
D_d_001
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obviously pulled but was just
obviously pulled but was just wondering if you are getting crays in the pots
NORUN NOFUN
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Here we go again !! Same time
Here we go again !! Same time of year , same type of posts !! The never ending story - how to combat pot pullers and thieves ?
tangles
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suggest
suggest u go out in dark. Sit a way off from yr pots on the pik and watch w a pair of binoculars. Or if you have a drone as ive suggested to a mate go out anchor up early launch yr drone from boat and hover ovr yr pots w camera fm 100m up. They wont even knw they r being watched!
Or get the dye tht fisheries use. Putin a bag half way up rope and when they pull it their boat will b covered in it and it doesnt come off!
Its potting off tge stones for me up here this season. No one will go where my pots r thrown andif by chance I catch em its a quick push and in the drink they go!!I
Sambo84
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yeah cheers tangles i will
yeah cheers tangles i will be out watching tomorrow morning. should just bring the rifle and put a hole in the boat that would be great to watch then drive up and laugh. oh well see what happens in the morning i hope i catch them.
Paul_86
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Personally this is why I
Personally this is why I don't drop my pots until the whites are running. At the moment there are way less pots in the water then when the whites are walking, so the chances of getting your pots pulled by someone else is much higher. Come end of November/start of December there are 50 times as many pots out there so the chances of getting yours pulled is much less then now.
Also I've found that on the few occasions that I'm pretty sure someone has pulled one of my pots it's been when my pots are by themselves away from everyone else's. When mine are close by to a heap of other pots they rarely get touched, as far as I can tell anyway.
rigpig
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good point
good point you raise mate, I'm putting mine in this weekend for a couple of days to get my system sorted out then i'll bring them out until the run starts. cheers for that.
Sambo84
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rigpig
hi rigpig lauching at ocean reef
meglodon
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Tell me more about this dye
I'd like to hear more about this dye business, it sounds like a very good way of identifying pot pulling sods.
tangles
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fisheries
fisheries used to use it on commercial pots to identify illegal pot pulling that went on. Pot comes flying up on winch n the bag of dye explodes as it hit tge side of tipper n stains the boat instantly. Does not come off. Boat would come in with nowhere to hide!
Maybe give em a ring n see where you can obtain some from.
Very effective way of busting pot pullers especially ones w capstan on boat.
Or just ballast the shit outa the pot. No one will pull a pot that weighs 80-90kg. Too hard basket!
meglodon
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Thank you
Last year was a terrible year for me, I believe that my pots were being pulled as a few mates in roughly the same area where doing exceptionally good. I used the same bait dropped on the same country and did all sorts of things, the pots I was using were well weighted down and I don't think they would have moveing on the bottom.
Pots were on the gps mark when I pulled them next morning no sign of being moved no legs etc. in the pots just a felling I was second in line to pull them.
Hughesy
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i don't think
I don't think it will stop its like everything in life there's few dicks in what ever you do if the fell it necessary to pull our pots the lest they could do is put it back were it was , don't fuck with it and if they get a feed out of it bait it up so we can to.
Madmerv
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Pullers
Already said but sure someone pulled 1 of ours from Mindarie.
Spoke to fisheries but nothing can be done till they get caught red handed.
Now who was it that had that gun????
Sometimes when the water is quiet, you can hear the fish laughing at you !
Daniel 82
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Go out there at 3am and wait
Go out there at 3am and wait in the dark 500m off your pots and Catch the pricks
carnarvonite
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Blame
Lot of the time its means there is no crays there or you have dropped your pots in the wrong place and its easy to go for the easy option and blame pot pullers for your lack of results. Drive past those who are catching well and see what they are doing and where they drop their pots in relation to the reef but DON'T drop your pots on top of theirs otherwise you will probably finish up with short ropes and no floats
Heavy pots is one of the answers to stop them walking across the bottom same goes for shorter ropes to stop the lateral drag on them in bigger swell.
randall df223
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Totally agree.
Totally agree.
Fish! HARD!
Paul_86
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Shorter ropes
Hey mate, could you elaborate on the length of the ropes, I thought more excess would be better, as long as it's not laying flat on top of the water and becoming a hazard.
What would the ideal rope length be for a pot in 20m's of water?
carnarvonite
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Length of rope
If your rope is too long the swell or waves will drag your pot along the bottom with a sideways pull , shorter ropes will drag your floats under before making your pot travel,
So in fifteen metres of water you should have no more than twenty metres of rope as an example. Beside slack rope on the surface give you a greater chance of being cut off by a passing boat
Paul_86
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Cheers for that mate,
Cheers for that mate, appreciate the advice
jetski jon
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stitch razors into your
stitch razors into your rope, then wait at the boat ramp and see who has their hands wrapped up!
choc
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Thats a good idea Too bad if
Thats a good idea
Too bad if some innocent person accidently gets your rope around thier prop.
Paj man
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Or
If fisheries come to check the pot...
aka Nick
Paul_86
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Yeah booby traping a pot
Yeah booby traping a pot won't help, if some prick does pull it and gets hurt, then your never going to see that pot again. At least normally they just take your crays and you get your pot back
little johnny
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Same crap every year
Stingrays main issue with slide lids on baskets. Not occys. They can snap and totally remove whole lid ( gone) even cable ties. Seen it underwater pro pots or not first few days they are light( still soaking . Strong currents millions of sea lice atm. If you really think your getting done phone fisheries with location. Over last week at ramp potters only getting few. Some divers doing very good. Crays are not moving. If you have been getting 10 to 20 a pot now nothing I would agree. My pots getting jack s-- t. Dive no probs. Not having dig just my opinion . Good luck
kirky79
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+1
Bodie
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I agree Johnny, Everyones
I agree Johnny,
Everyones confused thinking they should be getting crays now... the season starts 1 month earlier, so the bulk fo the crays are still over a month away... Crays dont change their rountine by much, just because the season opens 4 weeks earlier doesnt mean the crays will mault then walk 4 weeks early..
I will put mine in soon, but its full moon atm so crays will be way back in the reefs and not coming out.