banana's on board

hey guys

how superstituous are you?

i went on a charter in sydney and the skipper had taken banana's along for a snack, he said it was rubbish , and we caught a good haul that day.

i went out on sunday and the deckie brings 2 bananas along.  end result of the day - bits and pieces fishwise  , he throws my rod that he was using ,in the drink , and i snap another expensive new rod , re catching the rod he'd just thrown in.

fuel used $70 

rod cost $280

service for dunked reel $ 40

minus $90 from deckie for fuel and reel service 

 $300 for 1 squid in the esky. (it had better be good) 

i'm banning them from now on and getting a rabbits foot too.  

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no bananas no green dont

Mon, 2010-02-15 22:27

no bananas

no green

dont change your boat name

AND NO WOMEN(only because we always get out fished by them)

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Worth bringing if you have a

Mon, 2010-02-15 22:33

Worth bringing if you have a freezer for the ice cream.

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Variables!

Mon, 2010-02-15 22:34

First of all, the charter was in Sydney. Quite possibly they are unaware of the banana curse over there. I'm not sure but I think it's either mangos or granny smith apples that actually cause eastern staters to not catch fish.

On the other hand, you've mentioned TWO bananas on your Sunday trip. I think the West Coast formula involves an ODD number of bananas (1,3,5 etc) for the bad mojo to take effect...you should've been right with two.

 However...there is another school of thought that says the more bananas on board (remember, west coast only) the more bad things will happen. So with two you'd have twice the bad luck when compared with one. Perhaps.

Just to be safe, I wouldn't eat the squid.

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I thought the bannanas on

Mon, 2010-02-15 22:52

I thought the bannanas on board was an old sailing curse regardless of location!? The old tale about bannanas being loaded on old trade boats in the cargo hold under the deck would give off methane, cook lights a match *bang* no more boat or crew.

When it was finally figured out no bannanas on no boats

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no bananas ...

Mon, 2010-02-15 23:08

haven't heard that one before Lamby, but it makes as much or more sense as the other thousand reasons.  I heard once about a skipper who threw the Banana Boat Sunscreen overboard.

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the reason I've been told

Tue, 2010-02-16 08:11

the reason I've been told that bananas are bad luck on boats is when they sailed in the olden days, the bananas (being stored with the rest of the fruit/veges) caused the other fruit etc to ripen too quickly and go off, leaving the crew with no fruit and veg.
Anyway they're welcome on my boat, too convinient a snack to leave behind.

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Yeah thats right bod.

Tue, 2010-02-16 11:40

Yeah thats right tim. bananas emit acids that cause fruits to ripen quicker than normal.

The methane gas story is where we get the term "shit" from, and it has to do with manure. hundreds of years ago when they used to ship horse manure, they used to put the initials "S.H.I.T."on the crates, which  was short for "Store High IN Transit", because if they kept it below deck, the naked flame from the oil lantern could ignite the stagnant methane gasses that would accumulate from the manure.

Back to the banana theory, I was squidding with the missus once (and she didnt know the rules on my boat), and i hadnt caught a squid all morning (unusual for me), when at about 9.30am, she pulls out a bag with 3 bananas. "WTF?!" was my suprised comment, and i proceeded to tell her the banana on boat theory. she said it was all bullshit, and proceeded cast another jig. bimini twist got caught on one of the eyes of the rod, and the jig went flying, unattached to the mainline.....

"Thats it, we're going home" i said, and pulled in my jig. went to hook it to an eye of the rod, and drove the barbs bone deep into the knuckle of my finger. i yelled fuck so loudly, it startled the dog (who was asleep on the bow), who then fell into the water.

dont tell me bananas arent bad luck.

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Its the ethylene/ethene gas

Tue, 2010-02-16 12:31

Its the ethylene/ethene gas not acids though. Still very flammable though (its kinda 'the next molecule up' from methane). As for the manure story, thats all it is ;)

Its not the bananas that are bad luck scotto, after all you caught squid all morning while bananas were on the boat. I think you just self fulfilled the phophecy by getting worried when you saw the bananas  ;)

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nah no squid

Wed, 2010-02-17 11:43

"and i hadnt caught a squid all morning (unusual for me)".

 the superstition had to have come from somewhere hlok..... 600 years of sailors on the high seas cant be wrong

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Ah, right, read it wrong.

Wed, 2010-02-17 12:04

Ah, right, read it wrong. Superstitions dont have to come from anywhere, sometimes (well pretty much most times) they are completely irrational ;)

People have been wrong a lot longer than 600 years before ultimately been proven wrong too ;)

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spot on mate, Bananas and

Wed, 2010-02-17 14:01

spot on mate,

Bananas and some soft tropical fruit give of ethylene and it accelerates the ripening of fruit such as avo's, apples, pears and stone fruit. In fact you can store "green" unripe apples in 100% nitrogen at 1degC for up to 2 years and then slowly ripen them with a 1~2% ethylene mix at room temps in days. ( I use to work for a company that did it back in the 1990's)

Legend goes back to the French and Portuguese Brigantine ships that sailed between the top Western bulge of Africa and supplied fresh fruit to the European market back in the 1700~1800's.

Yes ethylene is combustive and can explode if in the right mix ratio's, but not likely from banana storage...lol..as they give off only a few parts per million air.

As for bananas on my boat, yip they allowed, they make good trolling lures too when bored and I have even caught a parrot fish on a whole one when I was bored back in SAFFA land...

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Did you get the rod back?

Mon, 2010-02-15 23:50

Did you get the rod back? What and idiot of a decky.

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lol

Tue, 2010-02-16 00:35

lol,my girlfriend does pretty well on tailor ,catch and release for fun,mainly undersizes,and occasional keepers,that i use for the elusive swan river mulloway in mosman bay,maybe thats my bad luck with mulloway lol.My girlfriend lived in Dampier for quite a few years, and fished almost every other weekend, around the islands of thee archipelago, mackerel, marlin competitions, didn't catch, but watched on close up, wonderful fishing in dampier, it is heaven.  A wonderful place to fish, dive, and relax.  Takes a long time to get there driving, but well worth it if-you have the local knowledge. And my girlfriend is not afraid to get her hands dirty either, one of the many things that attracted me to her, not many girls out there that love fishing, just for fishing.1 day i will make a pilgramage to fishing heaven way up north when i get a chance,dont agree with bananas being badluck,anyway every1 to their own oppinion

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never allowed

Tue, 2010-02-16 05:09

i sent my deckie home cause he refused to leave his bannanas behind cause it was alll he had, was quite funny leaving the ramp watching him with a look of dismay. they are a big no no for my boat

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Bugger!

Tue, 2010-02-16 05:20

The first I have heard of this???  But we haven't caught a Dhuie in years and guess what my Dad always brings on board for a snack?  Now how the hell am I gonna tell him he's not allowed to take bananas with him anymore cause that's the reason we're not catching Dhuies?

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hahaha like it auslobster i

Tue, 2010-02-16 05:29

hahaha

like it auslobster

i may need to get a witchdoctor around to dance around my boat with a stick wafting the remains of the squid at it and chanting to remove the dreaded banana curse

did actually get rod back from 30 meters down. i was certain it was a gonner but somehow i caught the line with my rod (snapping it when i struck). it was bitter sweet.

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Madness

Tue, 2010-02-16 08:41

Next time you mix a berley throw in a couple of bananas in the fray. The high potassium content attract fish like mad. Fantastic for herring, gardies and other bread and butter species.

I think a kayak is a boat, and doing the Avon descent without bananas would make it harder. Easy to eat, fast to digest and good energy.

Welcome on my boat.

LOL

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I find this topic funny, but

Tue, 2010-02-16 12:07

I find this topic funny, but I do hear "No Bananas" often. 

When I used to fish off West Malaysia (Rompin, Aur, Permangil, etc), the boat man always had a whole bunch of bananas on board.  No I am not talking a comb, but a whole friggin bunch.  Was a cheap meal for them, just cut any ripe bunch off  the trees along the road on the way to the boat.  The marlin, sailfish, dollies and what ever type of fish we caught didn't seem to notice - so for me it's just crap.

However, to avoid any problems when I am a deckie and out of respect for the skipper, I don't bring any along with me when I am not on my own boat.

Trying to see if I have one of the uncropped pic from the day I caught 11 dollies of the Hillaries FAD. I know one of the original pics had a half eaten banana in it.  Stupid fish interupted my morning snack.

 

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I think the no bananas is pretty standard around the

Tue, 2010-02-16 13:12

country. It was certainly in vogue when I lived in Sydney.

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Lets do a fishwrecked trial

Tue, 2010-02-16 13:22

And test this. Bananas one trip and none the next. Tally the fish caught by everyone for bananas or none on board.

Could be an interesting answer. I dont think someone has done a scientific (sort off) study on the effect off B1 and 2 on a boat. LOL

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bananas

Tue, 2010-02-16 16:19

we went out in my boat all good till i smelt banana my mate was just starting to peel one then the shit hit the fan petrol guage fell to bits then the hull split and we very nearly sank just made it in to peron from 16 out so no farkin bananas on my boat

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Maybe the bananas did you

Tue, 2010-02-16 16:27

Maybe the bananas did you good!  You might have gone down with the ship if you didn't have bananas on board!  Go banananananananans!!!!

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QLD

Tue, 2010-02-16 16:34

I was on a charter years ago for an ANZ managers conference and the skipper checked everyone's lunch boxes as we were boarding for bananas/ The hotel we were staying at supplied these individual lunch pails and they all had bananas in them. All binned!

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the only ingestable items

Tue, 2010-02-16 16:58

the only ingestable items that are allowed on my boat are port, fruit cake, pickled ginger, wasabi and soy - thats it

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Get dehydrated much?

Tue, 2010-02-16 17:07

Get dehydrated much?

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water is allowed - and that

Tue, 2010-02-16 17:13

water is allowed - and that is IT!

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I think my stomach would eat

Tue, 2010-02-16 17:18

I think my stomach would eat itself with 10hrs + on the water with nothing but fruitcake to eat. Why such an restricted list of stuff?

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fruitcake

Tue, 2010-02-16 17:22

bring on the fruitcake lol

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big sista fruitcake is hard

Wed, 2010-02-17 10:15

big sista fruitcake is hard to beat!

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unwarranted superstition

Wed, 2010-02-17 10:09

unwarranted superstition

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good mix

Tue, 2010-02-16 17:10

sounds like a top mix dog some faves in that lot

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Hasnt fruit cake got bananas in it?

Wed, 2010-02-17 10:21

Lol

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LOL I told you so

Wed, 2010-02-17 10:24

Ingredients



3/4
cup
butter



2
cups
brown sugar



4
large
eggs



2 1/2
cups
flour, all-purpose



1
cup
walnuts
chopped


3
cups
candied fruit



2
cups
dates
chopped


1
tablespoon
orange juice



1
teaspoon
orange zest
grated


1/2
teaspoon
orange extract



1
teaspoon
baking powder



1
teaspoon
baking soda



1
teaspoon
salt



1/4
teaspoon
nutmeg



1/4
teaspoon
cloves, ground



1
teaspoon
cinnamon, ground



1 1/2
cups
bananas
mashed

Neels

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my banana experience.....

Wed, 2010-02-17 10:25

two trips both simitaneous times I had banana for breakfast.

both times no fish

both times threw up......

no b on my boat

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Banananananananas

Wed, 2010-02-17 11:33

True story. Two weeks ago we dropped the boat in at Mindarie at 5am. Got 20 metres out and the throttle cable snapped. Putted very slowly back to the jetty. Very pissed off. 

In the esky were 2 bananas (first time on board).

No more bananas!