you may have to thin the strands down but a good splice always worked for me.Is it going through a winch? If it is its about the only way.The other way is to put a short piece of chain between the splice that gives the winch a chance or you to have something strong in between.
No winch, the first piece is joined to 3 meters of chain. That is 20 meters the other one is 250 meters long and is 6mm, the first length looks like it is about 12mm.
I have two anchors ,one on the winch and one I take up the beach when I want the arse towards the beach.My second rope is about 20 metres maybe its a idea for you.
Any ideas were I can pick up a cheap winch from? Have a Matson 45L fridge freezer I am trying to offload, wouldn't mind a trade for a decent one with rope..
That's some serious anchoring depth ability and the majority is 6mm with no winch??? That'll be fun to pull.
Suggest splicing a small eye in the 12mm then using the 6mm tie a double sheet bend. Splice the tag end of the 6mm back into the standing end of the 6mm. That ain't coming apart. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGTrJhUQQh8
Unless it's nylon, spectra/dyneema etc.. which I very much doubt at $5 for a coil then I'd be very wary of relying on it unless your in a dingy and/or you do not leave the boat unattended at anchor. You really should find out the braking strain and then consider your boats weight before you consider using it as your boats anchor rope. Silver rope ~300kg, Poly ~500 kg if nylon ~1300kg spectra/dyneema even higher.
Top of me head. The point being - don't trust ya boat & life to a $5 coil of rope. But you got me thinkin' so checked Donaghys and I'm a bit out - 6mm poly ~750kg and 6mm nylon also ~750kg. The nylon I had 1300kg in my head but that's for 8mm BS as that's what I just fitted to my winch. So correction, Silver~300kg Poly ~750kg Nylon ~750kg and Spectra/Dyneema ~3200kg and that's from a reputable supplier, if using cheapo I'd reduce these figures.
hehe just checkin.....also depends on the length of rope aswell doesnt it??
But non the less your right. If you didnt take that coil off rope off the shelf at your local marine shop and open it yourself I wouldnt be trusting any SWL eritten on the side....that coil could off been sitting in the sun for 5 years
6mm rope should be used for hanging a net, not for anchoring any sort of boat.
I would be using not less than 10mm on a boat of around 4.5 to 5.0 metres and one bit to remember, the regulations are that you have carry enough rope to be able to anchor in the area you are fishing. Example---fishing in 100 metres of water equals 150 metres of rope minimum.
Not using 6mm rope did not think it was a good idea, always heaps of knowledge that is shared on this site. That's the good thing about it, thanks for all the help.
Sorry Ol Yella, should have been a question mark at the end of my previous sentence.
On my boat, i have 50m of line nylon. It starts as 14mm for the first 5m (for chafe resistance, then goes down to 12mm for the next 5m, then 10mm for the remainder. Nylon is nice and stretchy and wont jerk. I was lucky that i worked for a supplier and was able to get the rope very cheap
I think the rope you were talking about is double braid rope? I guess it would be OK for a tinny in light wind, or for a beach anchor, but if you ever got the pick stuck, i wouldnt put money on you getting it back again.
Ref my previous comment, the safe amount of rope for anchoring is 3 x the water depth. If you are in really good ground then you can get away with less. Personally, i have had 50m out in 5m of water at the top of dirk hartog island once. Two anchors in and we still dragged.
hey Swampa do you use chain, if you are pulling in 5m of water sounds like your chain is not sufficient. (with enough chain the 3 x rule goes out the window)...within reason.
iana
Posts: 652
Date Joined: 21/09/09
Splice
Splice it
Starbug
Posts: 563
Date Joined: 27/08/09
Short splice
Short splice
solly
Posts: 376
Date Joined: 11/09/05
splice them
you may have to thin the strands down but a good splice always worked for me.Is it going through a winch? If it is its about the only way.The other way is to put a short piece of chain between the splice that gives the winch a chance or you to have something strong in between.
There are two types of people ,do'ers and watchers
Right now the do'ers are the doing it
And the watchers are watching us do it
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
No winch
No winch, the first piece is joined to 3 meters of chain. That is 20 meters the other one is 250 meters long and is 6mm, the first length looks like it is about 12mm.
solly
Posts: 376
Date Joined: 11/09/05
Get rid of the 6mm
Thicker rope is better to pull and less likely to snap.250m is a heap of rope on the anchor ,I hope you use a bouy?
There are two types of people ,do'ers and watchers
Right now the do'ers are the doing it
And the watchers are watching us do it
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
Haven't used
Was just wondering, picked up a new coil of rope at a garage sale for $5. Just throwing some ideas around, would not use the whole 250m.
solly
Posts: 376
Date Joined: 11/09/05
Do you have a second anchor
I have two anchors ,one on the winch and one I take up the beach when I want the arse towards the beach.My second rope is about 20 metres maybe its a idea for you.
There are two types of people ,do'ers and watchers
Right now the do'ers are the doing it
And the watchers are watching us do it
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
Winch
Any ideas were I can pick up a cheap winch from? Have a Matson 45L fridge freezer I am trying to offload, wouldn't mind a trade for a decent one with rope..
petermac
Posts: 2946
Date Joined: 03/03/10
i have a 1
I have a 5:1 boat whinch you can have for a block of mid strength carlton cans just needs a new belt it is as new and one of those safety belt type
duges66
Posts: 138
Date Joined: 07/03/12
That's some serious anchoring
That's some serious anchoring depth ability and the majority is 6mm with no winch??? That'll be fun to pull.
Suggest splicing a small eye in the 12mm then using the 6mm tie a double sheet bend. Splice the tag end of the 6mm back into the standing end of the 6mm. That ain't coming apart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGTrJhUQQh8
There's 3 kinds of people in this world, those who can count and those that can't.
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
Looks easy
But might try and find a winch, def would not use 250m of rope lol.
oz74
Posts: 274
Date Joined: 14/05/12
6mm?
What size is the boat and anchor?
My first thought is that 6mm for an anchor rope is a bit light and not worth the hassle or risk..
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
4.85m fiberglass
Not a very big anchor only for sand might look around for a witch I think.
duges66
Posts: 138
Date Joined: 07/03/12
Unless it's nylon,
Unless it's nylon, spectra/dyneema etc.. which I very much doubt at $5 for a coil then I'd be very wary of relying on it unless your in a dingy and/or you do not leave the boat unattended at anchor. You really should find out the braking strain and then consider your boats weight before you consider using it as your boats anchor rope. Silver rope ~300kg, Poly ~500 kg if nylon ~1300kg spectra/dyneema even higher.
There's 3 kinds of people in this world, those who can count and those that can't.
Jayden20
Posts: 672
Date Joined: 29/08/11
were did ypu get those
were did ypu get those number from??
duges66
Posts: 138
Date Joined: 07/03/12
Top of me head. The point
Top of me head. The point being - don't trust ya boat & life to a $5 coil of rope. But you got me thinkin' so checked Donaghys and I'm a bit out - 6mm poly ~750kg and 6mm nylon also ~750kg. The nylon I had 1300kg in my head but that's for 8mm BS as that's what I just fitted to my winch. So correction, Silver~300kg Poly ~750kg Nylon ~750kg and Spectra/Dyneema ~3200kg and that's from a reputable supplier, if using cheapo I'd reduce these figures.
There's 3 kinds of people in this world, those who can count and those that can't.
Jayden20
Posts: 672
Date Joined: 29/08/11
hehe just checkin.....also
hehe just checkin.....also depends on the length of rope aswell doesnt it??
But non the less your right. If you didnt take that coil off rope off the shelf at your local marine shop and open it yourself I wouldnt be trusting any SWL eritten on the side....that coil could off been sitting in the sun for 5 years
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
Garage sale
Got the rope at a garage sale, kangarope pp 6mm 250 meters on a roll. Probably not even anchor rope just looking for ideas.
carnarvonite
Posts: 8627
Date Joined: 24/07/07
6mm rope
6mm rope should be used for hanging a net, not for anchoring any sort of boat.
I would be using not less than 10mm on a boat of around 4.5 to 5.0 metres and one bit to remember, the regulations are that you have carry enough rope to be able to anchor in the area you are fishing. Example---fishing in 100 metres of water equals 150 metres of rope minimum.
Swompa
Posts: 3780
Date Joined: 14/10/12
You'd want a bit of chain if
You'd want a bit of chain if you expected the anchor to work. I thought 3x the depth of the water to anchor affectively.
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
Have chain
Not using 6mm rope did not think it was a good idea, always heaps of knowledge that is shared on this site. That's the good thing about it, thanks for all the help.
Swompa
Posts: 3780
Date Joined: 14/10/12
Sorry Ol Yella, should have
Sorry Ol Yella, should have been a question mark at the end of my previous sentence.
On my boat, i have 50m of line nylon. It starts as 14mm for the first 5m (for chafe resistance, then goes down to 12mm for the next 5m, then 10mm for the remainder. Nylon is nice and stretchy and wont jerk. I was lucky that i worked for a supplier and was able to get the rope very cheap
I think the rope you were talking about is double braid rope? I guess it would be OK for a tinny in light wind, or for a beach anchor, but if you ever got the pick stuck, i wouldnt put money on you getting it back again.
Ref my previous comment, the safe amount of rope for anchoring is 3 x the water depth. If you are in really good ground then you can get away with less. Personally, i have had 50m out in 5m of water at the top of dirk hartog island once. Two anchors in and we still dragged.
D_d_001
Posts: 1522
Date Joined: 09/03/13
hey Swampa do you use chain,
hey Swampa do you use chain, if you are pulling in 5m of water sounds like your chain is not sufficient. (with enough chain the 3 x rule goes out the window)...within reason.
Swompa
Posts: 3780
Date Joined: 14/10/12
20kg anchor with 10m of 10mm
20kg anchor with 10m of 10mm chain, followed by 40m of 25mm silver.
Shane O
Posts: 926
Date Joined: 22/01/10
Thanks
Thankyou for the heads up.
diver
Posts: 146
Date Joined: 25/09/08
Stapeling
I saw a repair of some Qantas wiring done O/Seas and they just stappled it,lets face it,if it works for a passenger jet,why not a rope.