Sherbs enters the dark side .... finally
Submitted by brenz on Fri, 2012-10-26 17:45
rumour has it that sherbert has finally come to the darkside and purchased a patrol.. About time you left the toyota's behind and bought a real mans car
tim-o
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Prob needed some more fishin
Prob needed some more fishin gear, traded the tojo for a newer troll and cash lol
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
Rig
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About time
Sick of hearing all the breakdown stories
carnarvonite
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Religion next
He'll probably turn real religious next now that he's finally seen the light.
UncutTriggerInWA
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Coudn't afford a Land Rover
So he gets a Nissan. Oh well. He is making progress LOL.
Let's see if it's the car or the driver. Time will tell.
Vince.
Work smart and fish often.
Member and die-hard supporter of the mighty West Coast Eagles.
Bluetonic
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Lost his Narna if you ask
Lost his Narna if you ask me!!!! Should be Toyota all the way!!!
Blue Sky, Blue Water, Bluetonic!
Rig
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Clutch
3 clutches in 2 years , no thanks
Dizzy
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Sounds more like a driver
I hope the new owner does't read this thread ! hehe.
3 Clutches ?
THAT Sounds more like a driver issue than a vehicle issue to me. LOL
WSHN4FSHN
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I have to agree with Dizzy.
I have to agree with Dizzy. You would think that is likely a driver thing but if i'm reading between the lines correctly, and Sherbs has/had a Prado, clutches failing on them is all too common!!
Burley it and they will come.
sherbert
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It's two cluthes
That cos i help a guy with a blow up tranferecase on a jeep out of the bush,,, And when thay fitted the new clutch and the piston on the side of the bell houseing caseing, Was not returning back
So it was like riding the clutch all the time
So thats why its two clutches /////And yes guy is on here that bought it off me ------so thank's rig
Assassin landbase fishing club
quadfisher
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Genuine quality
Thats what gq stands for Im lead to believe, arh the old salty dog , the sherbstar has switched
over to a real machine, he should put something back to the two rocks area he
so regualarly rapes and pillages, HIS PRADO! ( its half made of salt anyway)
Toyota reef , has a real ring about it.
Welcome to the nissan club mate , you are gonna have so much more fishing time
instead of having to sell your kids and missus to the toyota dealer!
quadfisher
Wahoo
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think he forgot
to mention the new clutch in his for sale advert.
Fishin for a feed and fun.
Rig
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sore topic
a sore topic re the clutches I think. Prado's arent really capable of continous hard work that Herbie wanted from a car. Lets just say he has done alot of 4wding and has seen the "Genuine Quality" in action, now converted
Mulie
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My GU now has 140k on it and
My GU now has 140k on it and has been through one turbo, 2 exhaust manifolds (and two studs drilled out), tens of hours of electrical work, four new wheels and recently had the whole suspension replaced and still wouldn't swap for a Cruiser. Goodluck with the Pootroll.
Mulie
carnarvonite
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Unlucky
Mine's got a new clutch and pressure plate in about 50.000 ago, it had done 440.000 when I bought it and I've had it about 6 years and possibly another 200.00+ and except for the clutch and regular servicing and tyres done nothing to it
Rig
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330
mines done 330, alot of beach work. Is there anyway I can test my clutch before it starts slipping when I am halfway down a beach??
tim-o
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The clutch master cyl has to
The clutch master cyl has to be adjusted correct from install (should be able to push slave cyl in by hand). As the clutch wears the engage point gets higher on the pedal. When it as at the top, a new clutch is due soon. On the road just select a higher gear than normal, ie 4th at 40kph and bury the right foot, just flare the clutch and release, if the revs stay high, the clutch is slipping and it has lost its tension due to the disc being worn. Loaded situations such as four wheel driving rely on the clutch hooking up and will certainly test that. If the prado has been through an abnormally high amount of clutches, chances are the master cylinder rod hasnt been adjusted correctly and so the slave cyl hasnt been able to receed as the cluch wears which will make it slip earlier and wear the clutch prematurely.
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
UncutTriggerInWA
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WOW! A master of information
LOL. Sometimes when the footy season ends the brain clicks back in LOL.
Vince.
Work smart and fish often.
Member and die-hard supporter of the mighty West Coast Eagles.
Rig
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Good advice
Thanks timo I will check that
the_dude84
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Who cares what you drive as
Who cares what you drive as long as it gets you where you wanna go and more importantly home......
quadfisher
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Right tools 4 the job!
True , the beach or the fish for that matter dont care what you drive , but the serious side
to this good natured ribbing of sherbs old prado, is that some 4wd,s will do the job better ,
with less strain on vehicle and crew.
Have a look at all those softroader adds for most of your so called AWD,s, if you drove them like
they do in the adverts, you would a) void warranty ,b) kill car very quick, and trying to get
a 4wd toyota tercel, honda Awd crv , etc etc up say borholm or reef beach on bad day
would be straining the vehicle beyond its design.
Doesnt mean you couldnt get one up , but a 80/100 series t/d, or a gq /gu will always
last longer doing it!
Besides men get vane in there old age ( red sports car anyone?) and sherbs needed
a style injection , with his new nissan haha.
quadfisher
carnarvonite
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Early Hi lux
Mate has an early Tojo Hi lux with the little 4 cyl petrol in it, carting salmon off the beach he would get nearly as many on it compared to the cruisers and my patrol ute and use half the fuel and go places we could only dream about. The same ute has outlasted 2 cruisers and is still going strong without a serious rebuild of any kind where the cruisers from the team have all had transfer case and gearbox rebuilds.
quadfisher
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Seen then in action
Will agree those old hiluxs do well, my theory is that the buggers were so
underpowered , the rest of the drivetrain lasted forever. A mate bought a n/a 2.2 litre diesel one from new back in the 80,s
Straight from the showroom , no load it struggled to get up greenmount hill in 4th gear
To a certain degree gq patrols are the same, trying spinning the wheels on a hard surface
with a n/a 4.2!
Seen another dual cab hilux with a worked 253 v8 in it and it loved overheating and destroying boxs.
quadfisher
the_dude84
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I had a 1990 Mazda b2600 ute
I had a 1990 Mazda b2600 ute on lpg a few years ago best bloody car I've ever owned had it for 4 years and nothing ever went wrong... tore the exhaust off but that was my stupidity... only sold it because i became a dad! Took me everywhere i needed to go and always got me home. I recovered my share of patrols and landcruisers too! I now an 80 series diesel so far so good... I do like the look of the landcruiser dual cabs though, factory diff lockers!
Browndog
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So True!
Spot on there quadfisher, my territory did OK in some "soft roading" situations, and never let me down by getting bogged, but was always a bit cautious with it and always travelled with a "proper" 4WD.
Then came the Kluger, beautiful on road, and pretty hopeless off road. One little moment of airborne
(just like in the ad!), and that Camry chassis was never the same. Bonnet stuck up about 1/2 an inch ever since, I was glad when the lease was up on that baby.
Now Jeep Grand Cherokee, a real tank on road, and never even looked like slowing down off road. (If they had servo's on the beach would be a different story, that V8 loves a drink more than me!)
Next time round I'm thinking a dual cab ute or 100 Series will do the job, but who knows, the new diesel Jeeps seem nice....
BD.
tim-o
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Cable clutches are the same,
Cable clutches are the same, the cable requires a small amount of freeplay to ensure the cluch isnt being engaged, cables need regular adjusment but hydralics dont if the master cyl is set right at instal its fine for the life of the clutch or clutches
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
adian73
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GU the best 4wd
nissan patrol the best 4wd in markets
go GU
grayzeee
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Now you can get a sticker on
Now you can get a sticker on the back window "Toyota recovery vehicle"
(funny , you never see a toyota with nissan recovery stickers.)
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
Dizzy
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That's because the Nissan
That's because the Nissan owners are all talk and the Tojo owners don't have to prove anything .
Sorta like a 4wd version of small-man syndrome LOL
sherbert
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Dont get me wrong
The gq is a great 4x4, But miss the pardo allready--- A go awaywere 4x 4
Assassin landbase fishing club
KeenAsFisho
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Bulletproof
I've got a 2000 rodeo 2.8 (the motor before they screwed the turbo up on) and have unstuck ALOT more nissans than cruisers, old man had a 86 GXL TD with 600 on the clock when he offloaded it (nearly cried). Albeit the turbo and gearbox had been recond. but me brother drove it all the way to broome, drowned it and hardly looked after it up there for a year than drove it back with no dramas! Second best motor they ever did!
No matter how hard I try I just can't get me rodeo stuck! Light as all hell and adding a K&N filter, snorkel and intercooler eliminates those "slug" issues they had! The only drama with having such a light car is trying to pull a 2.5tonne GU out of a shithole!
"Yeah I'll give it a crack mate but I ain't paying your medical bills from the snatch!"
Cheers
Wahoo
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the rodeo ride
is not exactly comfortable though.
Fishin for a feed and fun.
quadfisher
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Hahaha
Man if you cant bogg a rodeo ,you must be sticking to the bitumen!
Drivetrains and engines ( early diesels) are great on the isuzis , but been out
to bornholm, calcup hill and most of the bremer area with a mates 3.0 liter
rodeo , and they are quite easy to bog.
Hardest thing is lifting them high enough to get some decent rubber on them,
he eventualy did a body lift and susp lift , to squeeze some 285/75/16,s
I think they were, and although it then had no power , it didnt drag
its guts though the sand.
Me personally have had mitsi l200 ,rocky diesel, v6 3.5liter jackeroo
and several cruisers before settling on a gq, something I has always wanted.
All of them will go 4wdriving , but I still say the gq will last longer doing it, they
have the runs on the board and mine at 405000kms runs and 4wds with the best of them.
quadfisher
KeenAsFisho
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Was your mates 3ltr the RA or
Was your mates 3ltr the RA or TF model? The TF's were alright but the RAs were know to be gutless, as for never leaving the bitumen I have squashed 31's under my wheel arches (lift kit is next investment) and she doesn't scrape her belly.
To give you an idea for my bucks do earlier this year we camped on the beach for a night of fishin n boozin. While I was asleep in my tray the boys dug the rodeo down to her belly far enough to the point where you could spin all for wheels by hand. They did it to 5 cars, mine a navara 2 hiluxes and a triton, the next morning we all had to push sand back under our wheels. I did that and pushed it in with my foot to make it a bit firm, then still belly up but with sand under her boots I proceed to get her out of the ditch on the second rock and then snatch the other 4 out because they couldn't move theirs!
And I got out in high range because that's what I was in when I turned her off and without being able to roll a little low range wasnt an option :)
Cheers
Dizzy
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We had RA 3.0 TD's as survey
We had RA 3.0 TD's as survey vehicles and the difference between them and the previous model was huge.
On bitumen, sand or bush the older models performed and rode very ordinarily by comparison.
My only gripe was the change to the front mounted intercooler vs top/bonnet, which they changed back pretty soon after.
Great on sand too due to low weight - until ruts got too deep.
With limited ground clearance NEITHER compare to a Cruiser or Patrol.
Then there's the Series 3 & 4 Disco's which are on another level again ;)
adian73
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clutch
we should call you
THE OLD CLUTCH CLUB
not old farts club