Pinging and Boating Etiquette
Just wondering what everyone perceives as good boating behavior and etiquette when out at sea . Just about every time we go out on the open sea's we get circled at anchor by boats trying to get in on the action and mark out spot's, its not a fun day keeping watch all day and up rooting and taking off when a boat even think's of approaching not that i have anything to hide but pinging is low. An example of this was sunday at five fathom bank being circled by a new Commodore Cruiser then he set a drift close to us to me this is not on . Sure if you know the skipper on the boat if invited approach with caution and keep clear of lines in the water . I don't think there is any boat owner on this site which hasn't been pinged or buzzed , so what is the correct way to interact on the water ?
Some of my rules out in the boat
- If setting a course to a mark on my plotter and their is a boat drifting or anchored in the line of route i always divert around them and no closer than 150 metres
- Never drop in on a hot bite or burley trail , like the frenzy when the snapper are in the sound
- Never circle boats that are anchored
Whats does everyone else think ?
feral1975
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I think this would be good
I think this would be good as you would find most of the guy's pinging wouldn't be on this site and would be great to keep an eye out
big john
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Not confined
Sadly not just confined to Perth waters either. Grrr!
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happens all the time
but the jokes on them when your not gettiung anything ,they wasted fuel and time for what.
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kaneo
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i should off taken a photo
i should off taken a photo of the freaks who drifted into me sunday u would of laughed ,pitty they saw me pull a nice dhu .that spot is in the middle of no where n i was the only boat out there and they had to ping me.dogs.ive never pinged a boat,if theres a boat fishing in my route to my spot i go around them dont care what any one else is doing ,i just want to get to my spot.....
diji
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Give them a choice
Pull out the shotgun and ask em if they want it in the head or the hull!!!
mike79
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dont get me started
i hate theses people who do this spot pinching. no matter how much etiquette we talk about there will always be some rude bastard out there that will take it. how ever a nice 16 oz snapper lead can fly a long way form my boat and there is a few guys out there that can verify that
harro
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twice
i went out last weekend, and decided to stay in the bay for a change, with the northerly,and how i went out to two spots, decent spots, and they are some 8mile between, both spots had boats on them, excatly where i wanted to go,,
i fished nearby one, felt uncorforable, as i wanted to go over and tell the guys ,, hey i,m not pinging but we have the same spot here fellas,
anyway we moved, these guys obviously thought we were pinging, so out we went, and another boat , smack bang on the other spot,
very frustrating, as you drive a long way there, you want to fish it, but other pple are there also,
doesnt bother me that others have the spot at all, but the badluck of finding crew on both in 1 day, we drifted a fair way off, but no fish, so we came back in.
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on the other hand i have been out at a cple spots near the cape, waiting for wind to calm before headin further, and had one boat with 3 old guys come up , drop sea anchor like 30 metres away, we were like wtf...
yeled etc, they didnt even respond at all, full cheekiness, caught fish right there,
we moved after giving them a serve,and they hhad the move to come to the next spot which was like a mile away, we moved before they got to us, saw them trying to get on the spot, then motored past them tellen them wot we thought...
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Dreamweaver
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Common, increasing problem
Feral, there'so doubt that just about everyone in here that owns a boat and goes out on the ocean has experienced this problem. Certainly you folks in Perth cop it a lot, where there is a lot of boats and folks get desperate and more unscrupulous. But as John said, it doesn't just happen in Perth. I've even had it happen down here where there are a lot less boats and more fish
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There's an element that are lazy and, as I said, unscrupulous. Personally, I take great pride and a sense of accumplishment in finding my own spots as doe we all in here.
I totally agree with the points that you raised. Asside from there being distance rules of greater than 8 knots when passing a vessel it's just not the right thing to do.
Without even bringing the pinging into it, people (and their vessel) have rights on the water!
The problem is certainly increasing and if something isn't done about it soon, people will (understandably) take things into their own hands.
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alfred
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I will never come by to say
I will never come by to say "Hello" anymore. To many unhappy folks around.
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Neander
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Heheh I only have a few
Heheh
I only have a few spots on the handheld I have and I headed out to a spot on five fathoms to find 6 boats already on the spot.
so I motored around to the north to find a bit of nice ground.
Bit hard if you dont know where else to go and so many boats on the spot already.
That said its the spot that was floating around the net for yrs.
rainbow
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We have to put up with pr--ks at work,
in the streets, & on the highway. isnt that enough?
Jetties present the same problem with people fishing over your shoulder!
At least with trout fly fishing we can dissapear in the bush & there is definately etiquette practiced on a river anyway. Maybe its the back cast that does it, people dont seem to like flies decorating the back of their necks!
I`d rather be fishin`!!!
7739ian
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Try
swinging a hand line with a nice heavy sinker around yourself - clears up to 3 or pushy jetty tresspassers with ease.
Dreamweaver
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Binoculars and camera
I always take binoculars and a camera with me. Most of those that start heading towards me, I hold up both and then start giving them the eyeball through the 'nocs' - has discouraged most, but not all.
We need the marine equivalent of hoon laws
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eddie
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I'm proud to say that, even
I'm proud to say that, even as desperate as we are to find good ground, we try to steer well clear of people that are on the drop.
The only time we 'pinged' somebody was when we saw a cray boat dropping pots....we cruised over for a looksy as he was leaving.
We've only just started and we've already had people try to ping us...we always just have a laugh, bc little do they know that we have NO IDEA what we are doing!!! haha
roberta
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Yes
Eddie we've only pinged on cray floats in Leeman, good out of season can go and have a good look at ground they know the area and the lumps are fantastic. Hubbie hates also when they come close, older outboard motors play havoc with the sounder.
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Shorty
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Was out in the kayak in
Was out in the kayak in Cockburn Sound over the weekend, had the odd boat go through the small circle of boats before racing off to deeper water,
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Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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P & S
Agree Andrew, unfortunatly it happens every where and these boaties choose to ping because its easy and to much hard work finding their own grounds!
The last few trips out i've been followed then they realised the game i was playing so they took off but yeh pingers & shadowers are plentiful.........especially weekends
My take;
* I "dont" approach others whilst they're drifting on their fishing spots unless they're a mate or someone that has invited me over
* If someone is in my GPS line to my spot i will go around wide so no reason for them to "think" i'm doing the wrong thing.
* If i have a spot and some one is near by I will go elsewhere, no need to "give away" my spot or have the boat thinking i'm doing the wrong thing.
* On anchor your a "sitting duck" unfortunatly so thats why i dont do much of it.
* I like to drift and both the crew and myself keep an eye on the water so any boats approaching i'll slowly drift off the spot or slowly drive away.
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feral1975
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All agreed and " Neander " ,
All agreed and " Neander " , I know those marks ha ha have to get them back off you one day mate , another classic in the sound on sunday was about six boats anchored with in 30 metres of each other , probably saw one person pull in a fish and think the snapper are around . I think a name and shame forum would be good also give the people a chance in explaining them selves. And ryan you know your self of a few well known boats on here that catch fish regulary being targeted by the less fortunate and the games you have to play even before dropping a line . That is one of the reason's of my purchase of a radar unit for the fish finger , not to track others spots but mainly to keep track of people around me and see if they are cicrling or buzzing other boats and also fishing at night
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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selection!
Yes, I've got a good selection of fishing games that i've built up Andrew. Funny to watch the desperation in some P & S
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nothing a 24 ounce sinker
nothing a 24 ounce sinker carnt fix!!!!!
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Plain rude pinging other
Plain rude pinging other peoples spots.
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Stevef
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I strongly suspect that a
I strongly suspect that a bloke in a Signature pinged me on Saturday arvo out of Mindarie. Slowed right down, crossed about 20m in front of me and then took out like a bat out of hell. Jokes on him, the spot has never produced fish, we had already picked up a few fish elsewhere and thought we would give it one last try on the way home.
Shorty
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If thats the case Steve i
If thats the case Steve i would have pulled all the big fish out and pretend to admire them and take photos ,,the guy in the Sig will be there 5.00am next Saturday morning,,,,,,,,lol
I wonder if any cheeky folks on this forum have caught big dhueis then driven elsewhere to get a photo of then with a well known landmark in the background, leading folks up the garden path,,,,,
How can you tell when a fishwrecked member is rotten drunk ?
Because he is standing on faded pavers fishing
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roberta
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AAA fishing comp Jurien Bay
A few years back hubbie and mate fishing caught a couple of nice size dhui's, they knew there was a bigger one down there, cray boat came over ,deckie dropped line in, pulled a 18-20kg dhui held it up and laughed at hubbie then p....sed off. how do you like that for pinging, arse.......les, but his mate got seniors with nice big snapper, so its just not amateurs that ping.
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feral1975
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Have to get a ging i
Have to get a ging i think and a heap of ball sinkers or stink bombs . Pity the first person coming to the tub non - invited
boofhead
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hey feral, dont need to go
hey feral, dont need to go to the expense of sinkers.... amazing what a marble will do out of a ging
cheers Jes
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Top Tip Boofhead
Always pays to use your marbles when attempting to solve a problem
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boofhead
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yeah i know im ugly.... that
yeah i know im ugly.... that would be great to get out feral... let me know when and hopefully i wont be workin..... fingers crossed.... i'll have to get some new rubber for my ging and be ready.....
hey col.... at least i still got all me marbles......
cheers Jes
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Dreamweaver
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LOL Boof
I just KNOW ya not talking about me
....but just who could it be 
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boofhead
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aaaaaahhhhhh..... but you
aaaaaahhhhhh..... but you see it was you that needed a psych test to see if your marbles were or were not intact.....pmsl.......
sorry for the hijack
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Ah yes!
Good point Boof LOL
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boofhead
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hahaha....... have you heard
hahaha....... have you heard back about that yet
cheers Jes
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Dreamweaver
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Jes....
Not yet mate, was only last Friday - will take some time me thinks.
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feral1975
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Stuff fishing hey jes , we
Stuff fishing hey jes , we could just put up the pirate flags and go and attack people while they are anchored with flour bombs and marbles then ping em ha ha and just keep circling them and get some revenge and at least the incoming marbles would bounce off my ali hull. Or how about a fishwrecked cockburn sound flour war sponsored by dingo flour
boofhead
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or we could get one of these
or we could get one of these things and have some serious fun
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=220273396737
cheers Jes
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feral1975
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Jus cant imagine you lying
Jus cant imagine you lying on your back on the floor , last time i seen some one in stirrups i was in trouble
Sorry for the incorrect grammer whoops
boofhead
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hahahahahahahahaha "lying on
hahahahahahahahaha
"lying on your back on the floor , ........ in stirrups .............. i was in trouble"
im not goin fishing wit you...... roflmao
cheers Jes
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jay_burgess
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pingers... = scum it even
pingers... = scum
it even happens up here unfortunately.
Dreamweaver
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last time i seeb some one in stirrups i was in trouble
Feral - how do you seeb someone? No, don't tell me LOL
...and don't tell me the rest either
Had a ging shot I made when I was younger - fired a whole bucket of honky(gum) nuts about 20 meters - that would have come in handy!
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Paul G
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We stop and just hang the
We stop and just hang the bait in the water let them come over and drop to the bootom ,and away we go .they do get plenty of marks but no good ones,
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PACEMAKER
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Considering Im on the drift
Considering Im on the drift when fishing I find it amusing that if someone is pinging me that they are most likely pinging a slow spot. In my view if they cant find theyre own ground then they arent real fishermen/fisherwomen. Whether they are on this forum or not I think the shaming list may change there ways with boating etiquette.
My 2 cents
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Dean
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happens all the time, and it
happens all the time, and it will never stop.
We've had some good spots taken, and they are hammered now. Seen the same person at 1 of our spots about 4 times now.
brenz
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poachers
as myself and mako are people who work in the trade we both would be all for a shame list and would happily contribute as this is low there is absolutley no need for such nonsense ther is a billion spots in the ocean so y sit on some 1 elses .
brenz
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