Light demersal SP/jig outfit

 Hi all,

I understand that this type of thread has been mentioned countless of times before.

Just wanting to have a spare set up on board just in case I've had a gutful of the 16oz sinker and smelly bait on my hands.

Traditionally fish up to 30m and would like to try SP or jigs up to approx 120g ish.

Heaps of online info out there with regards to reels, lines and rods.

Pretty well decided the reel - Shimano 4000 size.

With the rods, there are 2 types which are online but I'm struggling to find them locally to see what they are like:


NS Black Hole S583 (5'8") 

PE 3

40-160g jig


Storm Gomoku Kaiten blue (6') - white rod with blue grips.

PE 1-3

up to 160g jig


Also, would PE 3 line be a general rule of thumb for offshore demersals?


Both are online from the east and super cheap as they are older stock.  Hoping some people have or know about these 2.

Cheers in advance


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The choice

Tue, 2020-05-26 10:42

 There are many options out there , but you can spend a lot more than you need to . My young bloke and I run pe 2-4 gomokus with 5000 stradics and they have proven themselves time and time again with plenty of demersals over the 20 kg mark being accounted for .Even run 200 to 250 gm jigs out to 250 metres for puka and grey band and up north for rossies and gold band , we run 30lb whiplash , hope this helps


The next time i see that jig will be in the mouth of something big !!


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just started myself

Tue, 2020-05-26 11:43

 and have set up with an oceans legacy PE2 rod with saragosa 5000. nice and light. rod i think was $270 from complete angler rocko. defo worth a look. 

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 +1 for the oceans legacy

Wed, 2020-05-27 10:03

 +1 for the oceans legacy slow element. i use the pe3 and love it.

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Pe2 or something around 30lb

Tue, 2020-05-26 11:54

Pe2 or something around 30lb for a 4k shimano


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I run a 4000 with 20lb on a

Tue, 2020-05-26 12:07

I run a 4000 with 20lb on a Eupro Giant King PE1-3...great value rod.

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 I have the NS with a Stradic

Tue, 2020-05-26 12:15

 I have the NS with a Stradic 4000. Great Combo.

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 NS blackhole S583 with the

Tue, 2020-05-26 14:04

 NS blackhole S583 with the Japanese model Stradic SW 5000PG aka the poor mans stella. 30lb J braid.

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Vic Dory

Tue, 2020-05-26 16:53

 Probably swayed towards the S583.  Is yours the "Amped" model or "Explorer"?  Amped is a pretty old model but share the same model numbers as Explorer.

As far as I can work out, they may share the same blank but Explorer has better componentry.

Do you find the size (5'8") OK to deliver action to SP/jigs.  I presume without seeing one that it is a heavier action rod.



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 Explorer and mate it's

Tue, 2020-05-26 18:01

 Explorer and mate it's perfect, almost as thin as a whiting rod, you can feel your jigs and plastics easy, I've landed 30kg sambos and 15kg dhus on it so it is more than capable. I'm located near freo if you wanted to have a look.

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 Pm me your mobile and I will

Tue, 2020-05-26 18:02

 Pm me your mobile and I will send you some pics of the rod in action

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Thank you for all your responses guys

Tue, 2020-05-26 16:47

 Probably leaning towards NS rod with a 4000 reel.  Still unsure about PE2 or 3 rod but swaying towards 3.  

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 Go the pe2!

Tue, 2020-05-26 21:39

 Go the pe2!


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I've got both the PE2 and PE3

Wed, 2020-05-27 00:34

I've got both the PE2 and PE3 explorers. I find the PE2 flicks lighter (130g and under) jigs much easier than the PE3. Although this is probably expected, the difference is quite remarkable. Not sure why, but the more recent PE2 spin is rated for heavy jigs than my PE 3. My guess is a change in marketing considering the rods are mainly used for slow picth jigging.