FISH FOR LIFE ALLIANCE
Submitted by VAGABOND on Thu, 2008-06-26 16:07
Interesting read on the Fish For Life Alliance web site. Could someone put the link in don't know how
Dreamweaver
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Vagabond - Fish For Life Alliance Web Site
Hey Vag if you copy and paste the URL (web address) into your post, this site's software will automatically create a html link:
http://fishforlifealliance.com/
(as soon as it sees http etc it creates the link)
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Thanks Dreamweaver,
Thanks Dreamweaver,
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YW Vag
Your welcome vag
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Hey Jason
Not a bad site thanks for that but some of the infomation is old was i looking at the wrong place
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VAGABOND
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Media release was
Media release was on Tuesday 24th June in response to new regs Russ.
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Oh ok click on the wrong one
Oh ok click on the wrong one ha ha got it right this time
Thanks Jason
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Interesting Vagabond
Unfortunately it didn't get much play in the media.
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I think you might be hearing
I think you might be hearing more from them in the near future?
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That would be good. There needs to more voices.
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Join as a Member
Guys,
Cannot urge everyone that have a concern regarding our hobbies, business, lifestyle and economic responsibilities in industries that will be effected by this to join such a group as Fish for Life Alliance. Make a contribution as the position which these guys are trying to approach this from is very sensible and responsible and also far more reaching than our state government wishes to acknowledge.
As part of an industry that will fell the effect of this new policy, we want a collective and uniform approach to the issues that we face.
The discussion on this web forum has been fantastic and I would ask each one of you that have expressed an opinion to join up, we're there. I really feel for guys that fish responsibly, the familys that enjoy their catch, and the business that contribute to social interaction. A government that ignores social, family, business and community interaction cannot ask for support in the long term.
I guarantee that all the businesses effected are looking at their business in a different manner and how they source product, distribute product and interact at a local level because of political bullying. The long term effect hurts the very state and community that we live, and will cost jobs, and additionally the people that work in the domestic boating, fishing and angling give more than they recieve in regards to business. Its a love affair not a business.
Why has there been nothing done in regards to commercial fishing if it is so fragile. I bet that if it was a rotation policy, one year rec fishing, the next year commercial there would be more fuss kicked up in regards to the ban, but I also bet that the fish stocks would increase.
Don't go this issue alone, unite behind a coordinated front and make ourselves heard.
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Hi Ya, I know I posted this
Hi Ya,
I know I posted this elsewhere but I will copy it here.
I know I won't be popular for saying this, but I think an option not considered, or at least mentioned, would be to ban all use of GPS and fish finder technology.
'Oh, but GPS devices are safety devices', I hear you say. Crap. For how many centuries have sailors been navagating the world without such technology. You only have to go to the South Pacific to find sailors who are doing the same thing now. They set off in a small boat, heading for a smaller island several days away and hit it every time. And then get back home again. All it means is that the ability to use charts and compasses competently should be part of the RST program. If you can't find your way around with those, no RST.
I am of the opinion that the ability accurately locate and hit a spot time after time has a lot to do with the decline. Yes, I know, there are many on this forum (and probably others) that both preach and practice spot farming. But don't kid yourself for one minute that your favourite spots are only known to you. Think for a moment about the impact on a spot that is in the GPS of as few as 20 boats. Each of you only hits the spot once every six months. That means it is getting hit (almost) every week. So much for farming. Good in principle but not in practice when you look at the total picture.
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I think the GPS is a safety
I think the GPS is a safety Device, it's main purpose is to aid in navigation, it's just that we use it to mark fishing spots. Alot of people use it to navigate around reefs etc in areas that they are unfamiliar with. There are alot more peole fishing further offshore these days where land is not visable. I did alot of fishing before GPS was used by recs and have been caught out a couple of times reversing compass berings and ending up headind the wrong way home due to strong currents. This is a true story, We were fishing about 45km offshore about 20 years ago and this boat came over to us asking directions the way home, it was a hazy day and he didn't think East on his compass was pointing in the right direction as the haze to the West looked like land.
I agree that no GPS would make fishing harder and reduce take but I can't see it being baned, If a boatie did have an accident out there the GOVT could be facing legal action for banning a navigation/Safety device.
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If it wasn't for such
If it wasn't for such technology, we would all still be rowing our boats home.
You cannot stay in the past.
It's called progression, move forward not backward.
I'm sure I'll catch a biggy oneday. (or maybe not)
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Changes to commercial fishing
Hmmm??? Statements like that are not right, and can mislead people about the real situation with commercial fishing, or turn this into a "recreational against commercial" argument.
It's not that. It's about sustainable fishing. The simple truth is there aren't enough fish and too many are being caught and killed for this to go on without a serious risk of the fishery collapsing.
The solution isn't simple, there are lots of possible alternatives and that's what the Alliance is about.
The fact is that there have been significant changes to commercial wetline fishing for demersal species, eg see Fisheries Management Paper 224 http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/mp/mp224/index.php?0006 the "Outcomes of the Wetline Review -The Minister for Fisheries' decisions in relation to the future management of the West Coast and Gascoyne commercial ‘wetline' fisheries"
Fisheries Minister Jon Ford's statement in Legislative Council, 26 February 2008. http://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/hansard/hans35.nsf/NFS/c2f3ad7427308a70c825741e002d3fe4?OpenDocument
From http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/sof/index.php State of the Fisheries 2006/7 (really 2005/6 but that's the latest one available...) Page 73
And there's suspicions that a lot of the catch was not reported. Compare those numbers to just under 70 licences for the whole of Western Australia from now on, with limits on gear and fishing days, etc.
Why does anyone think that the commercial rock lobster fishermen and deckies are complaining so much about not being able to catch ANY scale fish from their boats like they have done for all these years, if "nothing (has been) done in regards to commercial fishing...."?????
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