extra heavy surf rods

 Looking at getting another surf rod i already have bout 10 but looking to get a beast for chucking big leads and bait or slidbaiting with 10oz plus sinkers i have 2 ten footers that are capable of this wieght but, looking for something a bit longer to use off the stones and out cast everyone on the beach on the ruff days.

I've looked a lot on google and south africans seem to have it sussed is it worth ordering from there also kilwell blanks come up a lot so is it worth getting one custom made? Any brands or websites i can check out?

I'd prefer it to suit an egg beater or alvey but am starting to see that over heads are getting used alot but that opens up another can of worms for me with castsing and maging of reels ectk, so would rather stick to the firt 2 for now

i'm happy to spend the dollars on this one cause it will be pushed to its absoult limits!  

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 I've a Pfleuger Crank Big

Thu, 2014-08-14 16:18

 I've a Pfleuger Crank Big Bait.... I reckon it could toss a house brick.

 

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big rod

Thu, 2014-08-14 16:41

Been down this track before, there are a few good options if you look at Assasin, Poseidon, loomis and franklin, shimano tirelejo, saltiga ballistic and for a bit more coin a century but these are not very common in Oz although very popular in certain circles.  I bought my Assasins from Basil Manning in South Africa but they are available along with poseidons and LF at some perth shops

I have had a couple of assasins and a poseidon plus a few others my two favourites are the poseidon batam and my go to rod is definately the saltiga ballistic.  There are heavier rods than these on the market particularly in the assasin range but I find them too heavy for my applications. The particular things I like about the saltiga is the lightness for long sessions and thin profile which makes for more accurate casting plus the most sensitive tip I have seen in a rod with that casting weight.   

as for reels its your preference I still cast an overhead now and then but prefer the quality spin reels we get these days particulary when your hands are wet and its dark casting an overhead can be difficult and I hate overuns

There are some good distance casting spin reels available, either way most brands make rods that suit spin or OH

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Many Options....

Thu, 2014-08-14 16:54

They do indeed have it dialed I know that Assasin are making rods for both spin and overhead.

Posiden are another good option with one small guide change the overhead rods will work well with spin reels, plus most models will come with three rod tips (soft, medium & heavy). Another option is the Saltiga ballistic surf which can be used as with spin or overhead which can cast up to 12 oz and has some serious balls, I used this one reef fishing up north and it felt great the only downside is the height of the reel seat.

However I keep on going back to my OZflex's SU450G which was tossing 8oz easily and im sure it would handle 10oz no drammas I have seen some amazing fish caught on this rod with both the Alvey and spin set ups and highly recomend it especially for the $$$.

The main problem if you want to stick with the trusty Alvey with the african rods will be the size of the first guide and the lack of an alvey hook?

 

 

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penn talon

Thu, 2014-08-14 17:09

Beard_Slob I overcame the reels seat height issue on the saltiga by getting a Penn talon which is a movable reel seat and just fits on that particular blank, can fish low mount or High or in between spin or overhead

 

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Cheers Rig!

Thu, 2014-08-14 23:36

 How did you go fitting that did you need Ito re hear shrink it? Alsoo is it similar to the  tirelejo's that slide up and down? I've been looking for one for a while a friend has one and it's an absolute beast of a rod! 

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talon

Fri, 2014-08-15 05:57

It just clamps on wherever you want, no heat shrink at all, maybe not quite as user friendly as the tirelejo but its heaps stronger and has a trigger grip which is especially handy for OH

http://www.alderneyangling.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=1042

I got mine on ebay from the UK

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 happy to stick with spin

Thu, 2014-08-14 17:14

 happy to stick with spin reel mate i have a su 400 bit light but love my fsu6120's but a bit short, will be looking into the assassin range ballistic and posiden  

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15.5 ft

Thu, 2014-08-14 22:32

Snyder with a 6500H Saltist spin reel. Worked for me Dhuie couple days ago!

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spaghetti

Fri, 2014-08-15 05:58

looked like a piece of spaghetti

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 yeah beaty fish max lookin

Sat, 2014-08-16 10:48

 yeah beaty fish max lookin forward to havin a fish with ya next time i'm up and sussing out the dhu wisper off the stones!

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Dhuie

Mon, 2014-08-18 02:48

whisperer.............like F#%k....pot luck! Keen to go back up again sooner rather than later. Some big pinks still about.

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Agree with the Snyder... Most

Fri, 2014-08-15 09:46

Agree with the Snyder... Most popular beach rod in SA for chasing big Mullys of the sand... Not sure I'd go 15 ft though 13 ft is what I have and have always had... I'm not sure how heavy a whole Herring + hooks + grapple wire sinker weighs but I'd imagine it would be 10oz +

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I have a Snyder for beach

Fri, 2014-08-15 10:00

I have a Snyder for beach fishing (not that I've used it in ages) its 12 foot (maybe and inch or two more) and I found it perfect. I have a bit extra length on the but end below the reel for casting (I have long arms).

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 prevail gets a good bait out

Fri, 2014-08-15 10:02

 prevail gets a good bait out great

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I have a Purglass 400/2.

Fri, 2014-08-15 12:33

I have a Purglass 400/2.  Google told me that these are a reknowned Saffa surf casting blank. 

I bought it 2nd hand off a mate so i couldnt tell you much else about where to find one. 

The thing is a beast, throws out anything i tie to it.  And the best thing is, it is way lighter than my 12ft fibregalss rod!

 

If you are interested in the Purglass, you are welcome to come and have a play with mine. 

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 cheers for all the advice

Sat, 2014-08-16 11:15

 cheers for all the advice boys time to get on google and pick one!

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extra heavy surf rods

Sun, 2014-08-17 07:50

 I just got myself a 15ft pasific compisite blank in a 9wrap, cut the butt end out its now 13ft 6inch. getting the rest of fittings put on now.

We use these for fishing Dirk hartog island, stellas with 80lb braid off the rocks tuff as nails rods.

Blanks are bout $190  got mine from Whiteys tackle in australind,    give him a call he gets them from perth...

 tight lines.

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Basil Manning

Mon, 2014-08-18 08:27

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Assassin

Mon, 2014-08-18 08:50

 Mate pop into castaway tackle and have a look at the assassin range of spin rods , if u can afford it the Evo is the star attraction , but there are others in the range to suit the budget .

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Hey mate, During the run on

Mon, 2014-08-18 09:31

Hey mate,

During the run on the snapper for the first few storms in june / july we go through heaps of the Pflueger Crank Big Bait rods. They are a 12' 15-24kg designed for belting out big baits and lead. They are awesome value for money, we get glowing reports back from people that have used them to land big pink's and sambos off the stones.

Well worth having a look at if you are chasing something in that 12ft range designed for heavy abuse haha.

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 Hello, do you still sell

Tue, 2020-12-29 01:03

 Hello, do you still sell this rod?

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 Try Southside boating and

Tue, 2020-12-29 06:10

 Try Southside boating and fishing for your gear . That other one no longer exists

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 Bump Good day gents, Would

Thu, 2021-01-07 14:19

 Bump

 
Good day gents, 
Would like to revive this discussion.
 
 
Same as OP, looking to cast out  a whole herring with lead. 40-50lb line.
 
I envision a 12' 2pc.
 
What works for you!
 
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 When I mostly rock and surf

Thu, 2021-01-07 19:38

 When I mostly rock and surf fished I used a penn prevail 12-24kg 12ft with a penn fathom 30 for big baits or an assassin 13ft with a Saragossa 25000, penn outfit was awesome for big baits and even ballooning 

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As with the above comments,

Sat, 2021-01-23 17:53

As with the above comments, go the Penn Crank WA Special. Can toss a car into the surf. I use it for drone fishing too, and the thing has plenty of power. Can be bought from AFW in Freo, for around the $250 mark. Prob some other tackle stores do it, but i know AFW in Freo does for sure

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One no one has mentioned as

Thu, 2021-01-28 06:37

One no one has mentioned as yet is the Ozflex 12ft two piece composite Slayer rod. I have been using one the past few weeks. Made in WA as well so it can be customized if you want. 

It is rated 15-20kg weighs nothing and has a cast weight of about 300g. To me it feels more like it can handle 25 plus kg. Sounds like what you want.

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 Depending on your budget the

Mon, 2021-01-25 16:00

 Depending on your budget the - Century C or J Curve, (action reflects lettering), they are a universally usable length @ 13'8, and you wont find a higher quality blank. The Excalibur TT is effectively a 15ft scaffolding rod, the Century Eliminator T1200 is a more user friendly 15fter but at 15ft leverage gets a bit awkward.