Bent Street Boat Ramp- Excavation to start Monday 3rd:
Bent Street Navigation Channel Works
Mariners are advised that sand excavation works are scheduled to commence in the Bent Street Navigation Channel and Tern Bank (Warnbro Sound, Safety Bay) on Monday 3 December 2018 and are expected to be completed by Monday 24 December 2018.
These works will be undertaken using a land-based long reach excavator, with excavated sand being transported off Tern Bank via Carlisle Street boat ramp.
Operating hours: Monday to Friday, 6am–6pm, and Saturdays 7am–2pm.
Access to Bent Street Navigation Channel and boat launching facility and Donald Drive over-sand ramp will remain open for the duration of the works however, Carlisle Street boat ramp will be closed for safety operational purposes.
See also:
Carlisle Street Boat Ramp Closure
Bent Street Navigation Channel Works - Stock Pile
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Faulkner Family
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all good but how long before
all good but how long before it fills up again. from my understanding its been an ongoing problem
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little johnny
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It's a moving sand bank
It's called dunga island birds crap all over it.waste of time and money. They made it 1 million times worse years ago when they pumped sand onto pengo island trying to save beach there. How many people remember the good old safety bay jetty. Picture in your mind where it was. Have a look now. Would be high and dry by hundreds of feet. Go towards pengo sand ramp . Has never changed. ( old nun place)But let's waste more money on something that will never be fixed.and will always be high maintenance . Just a no brainer in my books. Years ago it use to be a good solid 20 min row to sand bank. Next ten years it will be built on . You can not beat or alter what will happen. 2 words ( dumb ass) .
Moking
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This will be a very
This will be a very interesting: The Rockingham Council is going to use a long reach Excavator to dig out the Channel,then use trucks driving along the beach all the way to the Carlisle Beach Launch Ramp.
They will be closing this Ramp,so the trucks can take the sand away! Hmmmm.
Copied from there Site:
Carlisle Street Boat Ramp ClosurePlease be advised the Carlisle Street Boat Ramp and carpark will be closed for the duration of the Bent Street Navigation Channel and Tern Bank Sand Excavation works due to operational safety needs.
Recreational users will be redirected from the Carlisle Street sand ramp to the sand ramp at Donald Drive.
Access to Bent Street Navigation Channel, Bent Street boat launching facility and Donald Drive sand ramp will remain open for the duration of the works.
See also:
Bent Street Navigation Channel Works - Stock Pile
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SeperateKnob
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If we are going to continue
If we are going to continue to use the ramp they need to dredge the ramp and a channel through to the markers. Excavating a small area of the sandbar isn't going to help much. Waste of money need a permanent fix for a ramp in the area.
Red Dog
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From my understanding the
From my understanding the council did complete a study into upgrading the sand ramp between Donald Drive and June Road however that would require a breakwater/marina and from memory costings came in at around 9 million dollars.
Creating a marina there would only create new issues in relation to sea weed/sand build up etc. Plus the fact that there's only about twenty metres between the road and the actual beach there's no room for parking or any additional infrastructure.
The council have to work in with a whole pile of restrictions from other govt entities, environmental concerns, rate payers that whinge about higher rates etc. - bashing the crap out of them continually doesn't achieve anything.
Clearly there's no easy answer to the issue - we live in a city that is growing, boating is getting more popular and the topography of the area is changing due to a whole range of factors - it's not the friggin councils fault!
Wait til they start charging us to use the ramps we do have - the whinging then will be deafening.
SeperateKnob
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Rockingham is hardly an
Rockingham is hardly an "Aquatic Playground" if there isn't a serviceable / safe boat ramp on the south side
Ahpuka
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Wouldn’t they be better of
Wouldn’t they be better of giving up on the bent St ramp altogether and investing the money in expanding long point boat ramp. At a minimum they could double the width of the existing ramps so the drive on guys could use the outer ramps and everybody else could use the inner ramps with the jetty. Or better yet, double the ramps and install another two jetties either side. Two ramps for launching and two ramps for retrieving.
If you google warnbro sound J.S Rowe you will find his report and maps about Peel Harbour (used to be inside Warnbro sound) form back in the mid 1800s. It was a problem then so why bother wasting money on it now.
SeperateKnob
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My point exactly, however any
My point exactly, however any more than 1.5m swell at the PK ramp and the surge makes it too dangerous and difficult to retrieve. PK ramp would need a breakwall.
Ahpuka
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Your right, surge can be a
Your right, surge can be a pain in the ass. Had a close call one morning, launching in the dark, had the boat half way off the trailer when a wave picked it up and wedged it past my winch post and up against the jetty. This I can live with but the knobs swimming around the jetty are the biggest problem. Ive had mobs of people swimming at the jetty not willing to move, after a lot of yelling they finally move only to find a toddler with floaties left in the water half way up the jetty with nobody looking after them. Ive had kids swimming around the boats as they are coming and going, crab nets in my prop, countless hooks dragged across the deck and cab. Push bikes and deck chairs clogging up the jetty with no room to get past, the list goes on.
SeperateKnob
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I've only used PK ramp half a
I've only used PK ramp half a dozen times due to the issues mentioned. Surely there are No Swimming signs posted - not that would stop anyone though
Ahpuka
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They have just recently put
They have just recently put a tiny sign up on the light post next to the ramp stating no swimming around ramp but nobody seems to give a shit. Every afternoon you will find all the cars parked in the rigging lanes and reversing lanes. Also seen a car with a boat trailer parked on the ramp with no boat in sight. Biggest problem is with the design as they have made the ramp the main entrance to the beach so you will get people parking on the ramp while the unload bbqs, gazebos, etc. The ramp and jetty are excellent, seabreeze not really a problem, just the surge.
I don’t think a break wall will do the job as the sand comes from the south. There used to be a groyne in the middle of the sound which was removed years ago. Before they removed it, the sand on the south side was almost at the end of the groyne but on the north side it was way back close to the dunes. Once it was removed, all the sand ended up at bent street ramp area.
Ahpuka
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They have just recently put
They have just recently put a tiny sign up on the light post next to the ramp stating no swimming around ramp but nobody seems to give a shit. Every afternoon you will find all the cars parked in the rigging lanes and reversing lanes. Also seen a car with a boat trailer parked on the ramp with no boat in sight. Biggest problem is with the design as they have made the ramp the main entrance to the beach so you will get people parking on the ramp while the unload bbqs, gazebos, etc. The ramp and jetty are excellent, seabreeze not really a problem, just the surge.
I don’t think a break wall will do the job as the sand comes from the south. There used to be a groyne in the middle of the sound which was removed years ago. Before they removed it, the sand on the south side was almost at the end of the groyne but on the north side it was way back close to the dunes. Once it was removed, all the sand ended up at bent street ramp area.
little johnny
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Never used
Long point ramp. Been told by fair few people smashed crap out off boat.
petermac
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its a shocker
its a shocker of a ramp when the sea breeze is in
petermac
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my bet is
my bet is the company doing the dedging will dump all there gear in the disabled paking area at the ramp , same as the last lot did
, council rangers turn a blind eye to it
Moking
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No dredging this time-
No dredging this time- everything is being done by digging out,and trucks driving along the beach.
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Red Dog
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Now beginning December 10
Now beginning December 10
SeperateKnob
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Are they planning to excavate
Are they planning to excavate around the ramp as well?
Mitch88
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Was out their kitesurfing
Was out their kitesurfing today, excavator getting it done quite fast I thought. Alot of sun bleached weed from the low tides and exposed to the sun.
Sand bar off the back changed dramatically aswell, pretty much a sheltered bay off the back with the sand bar blocking the Southerly winds.
Smells like shit and water looks filthy
Smalldog
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Long point ramp is the go
Long point ramp is the go but any swell and it is dangerous also very dangerous when i launch at 4am to go for an early fish and have crack heads hassling you. Having.jet skis all park up next to the jetty and drive in circles near the ramp doesn't help either when trying to get boat on trailer
SeperateKnob
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Hey any further update on how
Hey any further update on how the Bent ramp is going? are people launching big boats yet?
Cheers,
axey45
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All Good there now, see
All Good there now, see heaps of big boats going out.
SeperateKnob
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Awesome cheers mate, might
Awesome cheers mate, might head down there this weekend
little johnny
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Water very dirty
In warnbro and beyond. Clears up when you hit 5.
SeperateKnob
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Was chatting to a guy this
Was chatting to a guy this afternoon down at the ramp he mentioned on low tide only one ramp is useable for bigger boats otherwise the boat is launched onto a sand bank