Undertanding effects of moon phase, tides,wind direction influencing fishing?
Submitted by davebarry on Fri, 2008-08-29 12:51.
Hi everyoine..
Can you guys assist in explaining how the phases of the moon, tides and wind direction influence the fishing conditions here?
I spoke to a retired gentleman who has fished Safety Bay area for years and he was trying to explain, but I couldnt get it - he says black moon, easterly winds, early morning tide, off coventry reef is good..
yes, but why?
Wind just for comfortor does it bring bad weather in?
Tide - why should it influence 30m plus waters?
moon phase??
these two varying tides a day with uneven differences also do my head in........
I'm sure there will be very interesting answers....
Thanks
Dave
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Okay thanks Colin
This weeks question revised....
Please tell me why tides affect the deep water fishing conditions??
Too much for a Friday,agreed?
Dave
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Nah, leave there Dave
Oh, I wouldn't constrain the pain to just Friday Dave LOL
Nah, JK mate - leave it there I reckon - we should get a lot of good information out of your original questions.
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What area are you talking about Dave?
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Safety Bay area
Safety Bay area and surrounds, Colin
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Ok thanks Dave
Have you had a look at an Angler's Almanac?
It is a small book which makes predictions on peak fishing times based largely on moon phases.
From about 10 months of research it does seem to work okay. I wouldn't say that I have caught more fish when the Almanac says it is a peak fishing period, but I have found that if it suggests it will be a poor day, then my results generally match that prediction.
I can't tell you too much about the effects of tides in the deeper waters around Perth, but most of my successful fishing trips have been based around tide changes - either high or low. And there needs to be a reasonable tide movement. There are times where there is virtually no difference betwen high and low tide and my experience is that the fishing is pretty poor on those days. There is an old saying, which I think goes, "no run, no fun" which I agree with.
As for winds, while seabreezes can make the fishing conditions a bit more tricky, most people would agree that if you are fishing from the beach or the rocks, you are more likely to find larger tailor biting when the seabreeze is blowing.
Sorry, this only my landbased experiences Dave. The boaties will have different experiences I am sure.
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My take!
Dave,
Tide effects all fish regardless of the depth. Tide isn't always a physical thing to fish but a change to trigger their feeding habits. I've found full & new moon good depending on the species but the higher tides often better.
Morning & arvo being better feed times with sunlight change. Current is an issue, fish hold up against reef/coral etc and dont like to move around so things to slow done i've found. I've just been out the last two days and the current was an issue and as soon as it slowed....bingo....the fish were on!
Wind speed ie too fast means the fish struggle to get the bait and are weary of leaving their grounds. Too slow changes the outlook with smaller/sh!t fish getting to the baits before the better/bigger fish. I prefer wind speed something inbetween and moving around will often change these factors as they can feed against the rule book!
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Got that book
Got that book Colin - don't fish to it as my boss says my job cannot be flexible around the tides and weather - or it can be fully flexible - but with no pay - in fact I don't even need to come in then...My wife would sh..t herself with no income though....
Have to take the weekends until my numbers come in..and these have not been so great lately..
Thanks for the explanation though..
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Know the problem Dave
The best fishing times always seem to be during work hours.
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Bosses weather
when hubbie was working he always called good fishing weather during the week as bosse's weather. His experience he has found is as he goes deep, full moon he has found fish wont bite till the afternoon and dhui's come in shallow 10-40 metres, tides are a pig if fishing deep anything over 30 metres is a bugger even with sea anchor out, he's been on the tide line, has seen the leewin current bubbling away, wind not so much but if you are drifting at .8 or .9 knot give up and go home, .3 to .5 knots good no more. He bottom fishes with reef master winches sometimes 2lb to 4lb sinkers to hold bottom, gets his fair share of fish. hope that helps, its a long way out. On the tide line he found some fantastic bouys with stainless steel hooks etc from long liners, bouy is very useful for marking where our craypots are on a very blowy/overcast day in Leeman. This info from fishig out of Leeman not as far to bank as Perth.
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