Sounder shot. enjoy!

Sounder shot. enjoy!

 Took this photo last night on the sounder. Was following bait then larger fish and then this passed on the screen. Wether it's a shark, porpoise or a school of fish it sure looked like a Noah to me. Everyone on the bridge had never seen an image like it. Anyways enjoy.

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in the sound ?

Thu, 2014-08-21 15:31

in the sound ?

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yep

Thu, 2014-08-21 16:11

 just south of the woodies ramp

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Huh

Thu, 2014-08-21 16:12

Thats bizarre. But would have thought it a school of fish. Unlikely a sounder shot would look "exactly" like a shark. Bloody interesting shot and dying to hear others opinions.

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Cool shot!

Thu, 2014-08-21 16:35

Cool shot!

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Sure looks like a

Thu, 2014-08-21 16:41

Sure looks like a GW......

How many days a week do you go fishing!!!!!!!!

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 My bro and myself were

Thu, 2014-08-21 16:50

 My bro and myself were coming into woodies ramp , a few months back and had a big solid mass come up just like that on the sounder .. a few metres under just cruising along the ASI rockwall .. Bruce for sure I reckon , Good shot ... 

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GW for sure

Thu, 2014-08-21 16:53

 GW for sure!

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BAIT

Thu, 2014-08-21 21:58

School of bait fish pretending to be a great white in order not to be eaten!

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Bait

Fri, 2014-08-22 07:30

Bait

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 Tardis!

Fri, 2014-08-22 07:32

 Tardis!

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bait

Fri, 2014-08-22 07:44

as much as i wanna say its a white it has got to be bait! if it was a white you would think the echo would be alot stronger specially considering the depth near woodies!

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Yip

Fri, 2014-08-22 07:56

And ECHO relies on swimbladder causing a deflection. Thus you wouldnt see the outline so perfect. Not long ago there was a sounder shot off a known whale under a boat. The image was big, but you wouldnt be able to ID it for sure unless you know.

Here is one: http://fishwrecked.com/image/whale-sounder

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Another

Fri, 2014-08-22 08:00

http://fishwrecked.com/forum/sounder-image

 

and the best one last: http://fishwrecked.com/forum/great-image-humpback-sounder

 

Having said all that it sure is a very cool shot of a large flathead me think

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why do you need a swim

Fri, 2014-08-22 08:07

why do you need a swim bladder to get a picture?

I often see my bait or sinker going down on the sounder.  no swim bladder there?

 

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 I think the sinker going

Fri, 2014-08-22 08:29

 I think the sinker going down is the bubbles left behind...... maybe 

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 I thought it was purely

Fri, 2014-08-22 09:17

 I thought it was purely based on density...  hence your sinker shows up well being lead.   And the harder / denser the bottom, the stronger the rebound of the signal.

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Yeah, I'm with you pale

Fri, 2014-08-22 09:24

Yeah, I'm with you pale ale.

Not sure on the whole swim bladder thing, considering sharks don't have swim bladders but definitely show up on the sounder. I'm sure I've seen them on the sounder when up north.

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Should have explained better

Fri, 2014-08-22 09:49

Offcourse it sees other thing, but the Echo return is stronger with an air/fluid interface. And by the way I am easy corrected as certainly not an expert on Sounders.

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I think you could be on the

Fri, 2014-08-22 10:14

I think you could be on the money with a Flathead crasny1. Bloody big one at that.

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Crasny is pretty well right I

Fri, 2014-08-22 10:21

Crasny is pretty well right I reckon.

Its a great shot, one for the poolroom but just coincidence.

A single sounder pic doesnt really tell a story any more than a single frame from a movie.

Imagine say sitting directly above exactly the same feature but not moving, it would just show a continuous red line, or if you moved over it quickly, just a small red blob.

Also sitting over a lump not moving isnt going to show a lump, just a flat bottom. Same lump moving slowly or fast will present a totally different pic as does slowing or speeding the screen picture speed

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You might be sitting still

Fri, 2014-08-22 11:28

You might be sitting still but the "shark" has (possibly) swum through the beam.

Not exactly a single frame either - more like hundreds of frames except each frame is very thin (as in one pixel wide) and vertical. Only the frame on the right is the "Now" and everything else is history as it scrolls to the left.

The interesting thing is if it was a shark it could have been swimming through the beam in any direction (left to right, towards bow or stern) but the picture shows/proves it was swimming forward (yet to see a shark swim backwards :-))

Your dead right on speed being a factor in how the same object is presented on the screen.

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a still photo of a sounder

Fri, 2014-08-22 19:25

a still photo of a sounder screen is like a single frame of a movie I meant

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The swim bladder theory is

Fri, 2014-08-22 09:17

The swim bladder theory is partly a myth - I say partly because swim bladders do reflect sonar - but so do all objects including fish without swim bladders, jellyfish, weed, particles in the water, thermoclines, sinkers and bait/lures and of course the bottom.

It's a combination of the size and density of the object that dictates the strength of the return.

The object shows a red centre showing a fairly strong return it could well be a GW or dolphin etc - it is not impossible it could be bait but the shape and stronger returns (red in this instance) is in the right place for a GW/dolphin I'd put my guess on a shark of some type as if it was a dolphin you'd expect a sighting of them surfacing in the area (which wasn't mentioned).

interesting pic regardless

Frame it and straight to the pool room that one!!

 

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shark, dolphin or bait.

Fri, 2014-08-22 12:32

I didn't see  any dolphins but I was in the cabin and it was at night. After staring at the sounder for years I just thought it was a unique image. Wether it be like staring at the clouds and someone says "hey there's a cloud that looks like a face" or something like that, it was worth capturing on the camera. 

Maybe furuno WA should develop a great white ID function. : ) 

 

 

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It does look like a shark

Fri, 2014-08-22 13:27

or flathead!! And I have never seen anything like it on my sounders over the years. Had one baitball that looked (the cloud theory)  like a turtle. And A turtle surfaced not far away!! But the size off the sounder "turtle" would have made it 20ft long.

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bait, bruce, dolphin, who gives a toss,

Fri, 2014-08-22 16:47

Deploy the drumlines anyway!!

 

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tony

Wed, 2014-08-27 21:27

is that really your sounder bud, or is that the kids nintendo lol ,

give us a bell mate catch up and have a fish eh,

whatever it is , its big lol

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Gday Harro

Fri, 2014-08-29 11:50

 Yeah it was on the work boat. You still out in south geralton or moved closer to the burbs? ; )

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looks like a whale to me....

Fri, 2014-08-29 12:35

looks like a whale to me.... cool pic whatever it is.

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 Submarine!!!!!!

Fri, 2014-08-29 12:54

 Submarine!!!!!!

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Dolphin Sounder Shot

Thu, 2014-09-25 10:33

I was cruising alongside about 10 dolphins and 4 whales last week, looked at the sounder and saw this. Looks like a dolphin diving to me. Wasn't keen to try for a whale shot though!!