Yachting Idiots

This morning I was close to cleaned up by an 60-80 metre yacht 13km's north of preston beach about 400 metres offshore, sitting achored in my yak for about an hour or more before a frinking idiot in a bloody big yacht decided to see how close to me he could get to me, lined me up from a mile off missed my rudder by a metre but collected my anchor rope and took me for a ride before it dislodged. I am lucky I am not dead this was definitely deliberate I have a yellow malibu wearing a red life jacket. Some people are just plain stupid............


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Sure are some wankers around.

Tue, 2011-12-27 15:22

Sure are some wankers around. I bet you gave him a mouthful of your finest English language!

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Report him

Tue, 2011-12-27 15:33

Report him mate, did you get any info or a picture ? I understand if you didnt considering what happen'd .

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thats a huge yacht to be so

Tue, 2011-12-27 15:42

thats a huge yacht to be so close to shore?

Bear in mind that yachts can have difficulty seeing past a jib and even though its their responsibility to keep a proper lookout of course, Id imagine that an anchor line on a yak would be pretty thin and hard to see otherwise?

according to the Colregs a vessel that is taking advantage of it "standon" status (such as anchored) should be showing a dayshape or light at night so others can see that its anchored.

 

 

Still I know what you mean-one of the worst places Ive found down your way as a professional fisherman was the entrance to Fremantle Fishing Boat harbour. Most dont seem to know the purpose of the traffic separation marker and the number of yacht heros trying to sail in and out of the sailing club and straight across the channel etc can make it a scary proposition in a large heavy vessel on weekends.

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he is lost

Tue, 2011-12-27 16:04

isnt he supposed to be heading for hobart lol

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This bloke clearly saw me

Tue, 2011-12-27 16:04

This bloke clearly saw me from 500 metres away, people siting on shore 600 to 800 metres away saw it, one was the local ranger who called it through to Bunbury, there was two blokes on the deck and I think they could have been in a race as it was the fourth yatch to go by most were out deeper. if he can't see a 14 foot bright yellow kayak he shouldn't have his skippers ticket. my anchore line was only out 15 meters he litterally was a  metre off my rudder, didn't take note of his rego as I was busy trying to hold on for my life once I got dragged, he did drop his sail but took off once it was released.

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What did they do after you

Tue, 2011-12-27 16:08

What did they do after you presumably yelled and screamed at them ? Did they say anything or assist after hitting the rope ?

 

I guess its easy to spot something that size heading South or North,which way was it going ?

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Understand what your saying

Tue, 2011-12-27 16:18

Understand what your saying Karlos, but I was saying that it may be that he didnt see your anchor rope as a kayak bow is only a few inches off the water and the rope would be very thin.

Still very bad form on his part regardless as no matter who has the ROW, everyone has a obligation to take all measures to avoid an "imminent collision".

But some people forget (not saying in this case) that in order to enforce your "standon" status as an anchored vessel, you need to show it by having a white light or dayshape up.

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I'd hit him up for the drycleaning

Tue, 2011-12-27 16:45

1 ) they didn't see you

2 ) they seen you and had couldn't control their vessel under sail

3 ) yak hunting is on their bucket list

4 ) they're just arrogant A holes who expect everyone else to clear out of their way

hopefully someone in authority tells them to pull their heads in ...very lucky you weren't hurt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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idiots all over the place at

Tue, 2011-12-27 16:59

idiots all over the place at the moment,was on the busselton jetty today and watched 3 boats drive straight under the jetty.was plenty of divers in the water there also.dont reckon they would have been to happy about the clowns that drove over the top of them

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He might also have been on

Tue, 2011-12-27 17:08

He might also have been on auto pilot. Although your yak is bright yellow, they aren't highly visible objects on the water. Yachties also sit at the stern, clouding their forward vision even more. Plus a 60-80m yachties is a bloody massive yacht, a 200ft'er ??? Wouldnt be many of them about. If a 200ft yacht came my way while i was in a yak, i woulda got the hell out of the way rather than wait for it to see me!! Bit like the big ships when im in the tub.

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yachties arrogant sods

Tue, 2011-12-27 17:36

I've been a yachtie so I know a bit about them and the way they look down at every other type of water vessel. I had a close shave on the swan many years back, I was happly anchored near karrakatta bank and a few yachties had passed me giving me a good clearance 20-30 yards when Mr I own the river tore passed me and collected my anchor rope which caused him to drop his main sail execute a very sharp 180 gibe with the jib give me a large mouthful of obcenities then sail off. I was in no frame of mind to put up with this so I retreived my anchor. Then took of after him got in front of him dropped a sea anchor over the side played out a bit of rope went accross his bow dropped the other end of the sea anchor rope with a 20 lte bucket attached and watched him come to a very undignified stop, crew falling over unplanned gibe etc. I then approached him at which point instead of seeking a sort of peace he got all head up with the abuse again and told me that he was in a race and in fact he was therace  leader (some how) after I towed him to the middle of karrakatta bank (under much protest) and grounded him I retrieved my sea anchor and bid him good sailing. 

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Classic meglodon, I used to

Wed, 2011-12-28 07:42

Classic meglodon, I used to race out of Freo sailing club on a 36 footer & agree alot of them see them selves as wholier than thou. In saying that yes would be hard to see a yak even brightly coloured in a yatch that size, I know I have only seen some at the last minute over my bow cause of the very low profile.

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probbaly means feet

Tue, 2011-12-27 17:19

wouldnt think a 200 footer would be under sail!

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Boat of that size would

Tue, 2011-12-27 17:44

Boat of that size would generally have a professional skipper. Someone that should know better and certainly one of the biggest 'racing yachts' in Australia.

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Not advocating anything

Tue, 2011-12-27 18:13

Not advocating anything but.....

Carry a couple of big snapper sinkers!! They are usually fond of their gelcoat.....

 

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Stinking Yachties

Tue, 2011-12-27 18:40

They are a different breed the old croc wearing yachties

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God's gift to boating

Tue, 2011-12-27 18:54

In their minds they are God's gift to boating and all other water users have to bow down and pay homage to them.

Up here we have to pull approx 30-40 of the buggers off the sand bank at the Fascine entrance every year because they cannot safely navigate the channel and we would be lucky to get a donation for our [sea rescue] efforts from 1 in ten jobs like its our fault they hit the bank.

As the water police say ----YACHT = yet another "C" having trouble.  Totally agree.

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regardless of if he could see

Tue, 2011-12-27 19:05

regardless of if he could see his anchor rope or not what in the world was he doing that close in the first place. it is every skippers responsibilty  to give every vessel a safe berth regardless of showing apropriate signals. if a ship is at anchor and not showing apropriate signals im not gonna drive into the side of him because i am in the right, the colregs alow for skippers common sence to kick in when the rules are being bent...never seen the point in the sport? 

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Cyclists of the water

Tue, 2011-12-27 19:23

Thats what we reckon. No rules for them, and the same arrogance and very little observation of the laws by them.

But by god if you somehow get in the way or dont give enough space they hurl abuse.

Yachties should were Lycra..lol

A**holes

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Little dick syndrome.

Tue, 2011-12-27 19:35

 

How dare you deign to place your inferior water craft in his path. Move yourself or his 60ft fiberglass penis extension will run you down.

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hahaha

Tue, 2011-12-27 19:53

"How dare you deign to place your inferior water craft in his path."

 

I love it-that is the attitude exactly.

You cop that also if you dare also to present yourself to the FSC to pay a bill with the incorrect "attire" on!

Fremantle Fishing Boat Harbour is also a side pond of the Club where they allow the riff raff to go so long as they dont interfere with them coming and going.

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totaly agree with above.i

Tue, 2011-12-27 19:47

totaly agree with above.

i have been in the river many times around melville water, when there all racing/practice and i give the plenty of room, but on more than a couple of times they will turn right in front of you even when they can see your coming up and going to pass them on the other side as to which they are heading.

one day, 3 did it in a row, one after the other. if i had my shotgun that day, 1 would of gone to the bottom of the river!!

i know they have the right away, but c'mon 5 seconds later would't hurt, im sure they do it to piss us off.

 

 

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i saw a yaka nearly get hit

Tue, 2011-12-27 19:54

i saw a yaka nearly get hit by the rotto ferry today and a couple others paddling across the entrance of hillarys marina bloody idiots there are experienced yakas doing the right thing but there are heaps of one's darting out everywhere paddling in the wrong places.What that guy did to you is bad and lucky you didnt get hurt.

ps not having a dig

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Unfortunately theres tools

Tue, 2011-12-27 22:06

Unfortunately theres tools everywhere. Was out till just after dark on the swan tonight and there was a boat out there anchored up with only a single red nav light working. Couldn't see the boat till the last second. He was inbetween the narrows and matilda bay which sees quite a bit of traffic. I only got really pissed off after nearly collecting his dam crab net which had a milk container for a float!!! Impossible to see at night and they were pretty much smack bang in the middle of the channel that the bigger boats use to go through to pt walter.

Probly not relevant or helpful to the OP but feels good to have a rant

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I'd better own up here.I 

Wed, 2011-12-28 06:56

I'd better own up here.

I  went for a sailing lesson , once , but I'll say now , it was the most boring thing I've ever done.

I had an idea that I wanted to try the hobie cats , but the lessson was that boring ,I gave it away immediately

Did, however, get into an interesting conversation with a yachtie at a bbq.   When I told him I was a fisho , he said I could buy the fish cheaper at kailis , so I recounted my sailing experience  to him.     He got all defensive and told me people even die sailing , it was that extreme...      I said , if I was going to die , I'd want to be travelling faster than 15 knots while doing it.

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Bwahaha, top story!

Wed, 2011-12-28 07:56

Bwahaha, top story!

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LOL, did you tell him as a

Wed, 2011-12-28 08:19

LOL, did you tell him as a Sailor Boy he could get his fair share of schlong cheaper elsewhere too??

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I once took a sailing lesson,

Wed, 2011-12-28 08:08

I once took a sailing lesson, then i realised they weren’t for men

People do die yatching, of old age and of boredom

 

Allthough i find myself asking where the fine line of difference is between kayaks and yatchs?? Isnt a hobbie cat two kayaks joined together??

 

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I do believe that those that

Wed, 2011-12-28 08:13

I do believe that those that have learnt to sail are definately better at reading sea conditions therefore make better all round skippers. Surfer also fit into a similar category. However, as a sea rescue skipper, the yachties I have dealt with lately always seemed to be pretty happy to see a power boat.

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Sea rescue should have its

Wed, 2011-12-28 09:07

Sea rescue should have its own sailboat and sailboat crew to rescue yatchies, that way us humans dont have to deal with them

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C'mon you guys, Yachting is a

Thu, 2011-12-29 16:08

C'mon you guys, Yachting is a sport that is full of cat and mouse tactics, larger than life personalities and extremely well presented craft - just like Mardi Gras where they also go.

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You have some pure gold

Mon, 2012-01-02 22:19

You have some pure gold comments LC, pure gold

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Kind words, Lamby. Most other

Tue, 2012-01-03 15:20

Kind words, Lamby. Most other people think Im a c*nt!

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the only thing u needed was a

Thu, 2011-12-29 16:22

the only thing u needed was a 4oz star smallish brutish rod and a casting arm pointed in the direction of his hull, if ya know waht i mean

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Don't sterotype all yachties as inconsiderate idiots

Mon, 2012-01-02 20:41

just because this one is.  I have been fortunate enough to enjoy both yachting AND powerboating, at professional levels in both categories.  No matter what your opinion is, or what your experiences have been there are IDIOTS on both sides. There are definately yachties that dont know the rules and have this incorrect "belief" that power gives way to to sail in every instance, and there are just as many arrogant and incompetent power boat skippers who like to speed through restricted areas, tow people without a second person "lookout" on board, or let their passengers sit with their legs hanging over the bow whilst they do 30 knots (that is really stupid!)....  This yachtie is most likely one of those that have little regard for other water users.  I have seen many power boat skippers with the same disregard.  Don't make the mistake of sterotyping all yachties as idiots because of one bad experience.  It could well have been a power boat, or even a fremantle harbour pilot vessel (as happened about 12 - 13 years ago when one run straight thru another vessel at 26 knots, just outside the harbour).

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Cruising yachties

Tue, 2012-01-03 01:15

With the exception of one maybe two local yachties up here, they are pretty good but when you get called out to 6 different incidents in 10 days because they cannot read charts, cardinal marks, follow channel markers or see the signs indicating shallow water in broad daylight then we must get the reeal dumb ones visiting our beautiful Fascine anchorage area.

One 3-4 occasions they have run straight back aground after being towed off the first time---that is if the engine is working or the emergency outboard --3.5hp can even reach the water if the all the time on a 35foot plus yacht.

From April through to August we tow yachts on average 6-7 times for each power boat being in need of a tow either by us at sea rescue or another vessel.

Enough said.

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WAFI's

Tue, 2012-01-03 09:22

Mate of mine use the river as part of his job and calls them WAFI's.

 

  Wind Assisted F@#$ing Idiots.

 

Would appear they own the river when they are racing.

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Unless they are overtaking

Tue, 2012-01-03 11:17

Unless they are overtaking you, or you are restricted in your ability to manoeuvre and are displaying the the right signal, they pretty much do own the river, because in most instances power gives way to sail.  Your mate might be a little bit ignorant of that fact.  Watch the ferry drivers, who do probably have the best argument for demanding right of way due to their size. They give way where they can, even in Blackwall Reach.  And they are the educated skippers who do know the rules. Ask a lot of yachties and you will get exactly the same response about the powerboat skippers.  Tolerance and understanding from both sides is what is needed.

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Yacht hits reef

Tue, 2012-01-03 11:03

A couple of weeks ago we had to assist a yacht of a reef out from Mullaloo. Marker clearly indicates safe water North but he went south of it and hit The North Lumps. Apparently he was following his GPS but did not notice the reef as it was calm. Took sometime to get him off using 2 boats.

On another note the yachties at Ocean Reef Sea Sports Club race every Saturday. The come down and launch and then proceed to prepare their boats and sails along side the jetties at the ramps instead of going over the other side. They use both the launch and retrieve ramps to launch and can take up to half an hour to get organised and thats on a good day. See a lot of power boaties getting frustrated with them. I truely believe they think they own the marina and can do what they want, when they want.

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And I have seen just as many

Tue, 2012-01-03 11:21

And I have seen just as many powerboat owners arrive at the top of the ramp, get out of their car, put the bung in, unshackle the chain, take off the tie down strap, put up the bimini, load the bags and the kiddliewinks into the boat.....  all of which should have been done in the rigging lane.  the top of the ramp is for one purpose only, shifting into reverse and getting the boat in the water and away from the jetty as quick as possible.

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randell ...I've just got two questions

Tue, 2012-01-03 16:31

1 ) In 1983, did you ever own a rather large  yacht that won a race in Newport, Rhode Island ...

2 ) Are your inititials A B , because even though you have a cap on in your avatar ..I know it's you

 

Ps ...Well Done for the comebacks from a yachty prospective ...be a brave man on a fishing forum

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randall

Tue, 2012-01-03 19:56

absolutely spot on.....so tell 99% of yachties to follow those guide lines!!

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and who will tell the 99% of

Tue, 2012-01-03 20:40

and who will tell the 99% of powerboat skippers the same thing?

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