US boat imports

Have been looking at them for awhile now , like the look of the Sea Fox , Sea Hunt  23ft Walkarounds . Would like to hear from owners past/present on anything that might put you off from them .Im very particular about choice of motor , only yami or suzuki 4 strokes . More after ride quality in WA waters , and other notable matters . Would love ali in same size , but it just hard to beat prices of the glass imports ! 

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Sea fox seems to be a good

Sun, 2012-06-03 19:47

Sea fox seems to be a good boat for the coin
Don't think u could go wrong with either yam or suzi, have a look at this 1

http://www.boatsonline.com.au/boats-for-sale/used/power-boats/sea-fox-236-pro-series-walkaround/108265

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Its a jungle out there

Sun, 2012-06-03 20:19

Hi Handi 1

Make sure you do your homework. No risk not reward!!

PM sent..

Cheers

Mark

 

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Mines here in 10 days

Sun, 2012-06-03 21:03

I've got the 225centre console key west here in 10 days from the states can't wait .
Looked at he sea fox and the key west had better reports on the key west but everyone to there own it's like barracking for Holden or ford if you want come have a look even a sea trial if you want when it gets here.
Cheers Colin

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 Hey Handi1, just thought id

Thu, 2012-06-07 11:59

 Hey Handi1, just thought id add a few comments, while trying not to be biased, as I have my Grady White for sale at the moment.(only selling as baby on way and thinking of a slightly more family orientated boat, Grady White for sale section....)

From what ive heard around the traps, you do want to be a little careful with some of the cheaper brand US imports. Structurally it seems some are not made very well. I think alot were made as lake boats. I started to hear this while doing the research before I imported my Grady. Since then ive needed to get a couple of fibreglass repairs done on mine, by a reputable local builder, whos new boat sales has almost dried up, and now makes a very good living out of insurance jobs on US boats that are falling apart, in our conditions.

I think he might be a bit anti US boats and a little biased towards his own boats, but I think he is looking at the structural integrity of cheaper US bulilds, and does not like what he sees.

He likes my boat although doesnt think its as good as his, but certainly doesnt like most of the companies starting with Sea or Pro. Trophys, Gradys, Bostons, Key West, Wellcrafts seem to be a bit better. He also says individual boats built by same builder can vary alot. 

I also think looking at slightly older boats that have been well built is a good idea, as with all things they often built them a bit stronger and heavier back in the day. Competition to build cheaper boats can sometimes reduce quality. 

Anyway just thought id add some thoughts, not wanting to degrade any boats,or upset any owners, theres some really good examples of alot of the US imports out there. It also makes a big difference how you treat and look after your boat, and also what you want to do with it. For me generally I fish around 40km offshore and like to drive my boat to the conditions ie not smash it into the ocean, but I do need it to stand up to some conditions.

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 beg to differ....regarding

Thu, 2012-06-07 20:08

 beg to differ....regarding your boat builders thoughts regarding anything with pro or sea into it. I own a pro-line, and i have had it in some serious seriious weather and its handled it well and is sea worthy. Its 4 years old now, and as with any of your toy, routine maintenance and looking after the girl is what all that matters.

Ive fished up to 50-60km offshore not in millpoind conditions and feel and always will feel perfectly safe and happy with my ride.  I didnt import, west coast importers had it in there sale yard, in fact Ive had Yamaha state reps on it, mecury state reps on it and they love it for a american import, and were impressed. Still they all do say nothing beats a aussie made boat. Im jsut disagreeing with your point on the word "pro". Any boat can have manfacutres issues with it Carribeean,whalers what ever.

But unforunately it looks like i will most likely be selling mine at the end of next summer, as its looking like a possible moove to NZ for a couple years worth of work.

As everyone had said including gibb, is do your research dont just jump on the spot cause it looks nice.

Brett

 

 

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"He likes my boat although

Thu, 2012-06-07 15:25

"He likes my boat although doesnt think its as good as his, but certainly doesnt like most of the companies starting with Sea or Pro. Trophys, Gradys, Bostons, Key West, Wellcrafts seem to be a bit better. He also says individual boats built by same builder can vary alot."

Sounds like someone scorned at the death of the local boating industry due to strutural change in the way people choose to shop.
No one wants to see local builders going broke but seriously they cant really compete against a country of 250+million people who can produce products in volume at cheaper labour and material costs
I saw a whittley "2600" write up (note it is actually a 24 foot boat) on the back page of the west - nice boat but at $146,000 for a 24ft boat they are absolutely kidding themselves - Australian boats might be "better built" but they are unrealistically/uncompetitvely priced due to the higher labour and material costs . (and i would dispute the better built comment "in general")
Becareful looking at "slightly older US boats" -or at least do your research on the model specific to the year -searay and bayliner had some shocking issues in the 90's with some (note - "some") balsa cored hulls - problems of waterlogged hulls occurring through water getting into the core through poor fastening methods.
Like any worthwhile investment it is worth doing some research before parting with your funds :-)

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 Hey all, yeah certainly

Thu, 2012-06-07 21:29

 Hey all, yeah certainly wasnt trying to bag the Prolines, Seafoxes watever out there, have another mate who owns aquastack and theres alot of happy owners out there. Was just adding some info ..Certainly good to hear from happy owners. I love my Grady..

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Ive got a Seaswirl and love it

Sun, 2012-06-10 19:47

 G'day Handi1,

I imported a 2301 Seaswirl W/A last year. Ive had it out in some reasonably rough weather and it handled it pretty well. The build quality of the seaswirls if excellent, especially for the price. Compared to the Whalers and the like you get a lot more value for your money and they are a great boat. My best mate bought the 2601 and he loves it. Another guy from work bought the 2601 and he loves it as well. Solid boats with a lot of features. Mine came with a 225 Etec which I am stoked with. It depends on what your price range is, what age of boat you are after and what you will use it for. There are a few teirs of boats over there. There are some made for a budget, some pretty good value for money and some for premium quality. Do your research and then hunt down a specific boat. There are heaps over there to choose from. There are some unbelievably cheap 21 footers in great condition. Its also worth looking at getting a trailer made over there. I had a brand new ally trailer made with electric over hydrauilc brakes for $4400. Over here its about $10-12k. And you can get a surveyor to inspect the boat before you purchase. Mine gave me a very thorough report with photos of anything of interest. Most importers can hunt down a boat make or size that you are chasing as they are dealing with it every day. If you find your own its worth getting a few quotes on the shipping and ask how they ship it. I had mine roll on roll offwhich meant it stayed on the trailer and was brought over on a car carrier. Some get put on their side in a sea container, which is considerably cheaper but can cause havoc to the hull as they are not designed to sit on their side. If you are going to the effort it is worth spending a little bit more to ensure it arrives in one peice. I also had mine professionally cleaned and wrapped which made getting through customs here fairly easy. Just make sure you have your import application done before it gets here because Canberra took 8 weeks to put a stamp on mine. Dont know what took so long but you cant convince them to hurry up. All in all, I would do it again in a flash. I ended up with a great boat that I wouldnt have been able to afford otherwise. If you need someone to give you a quote for shipping and handling the guy I used from USA2OZ was great. There are a fair few out there with some very different prices. Kept me informed the whole way through and has people organised over here to process the quarrantine and customs so all you have to do is show up, sign and pick it up from the customs yard. Hope that helps and enjoy the hunt!! Its very rewarding when you get it over here and on the water.

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I don't think many people

Mon, 2012-06-11 10:13

I don't think many people will argue at the handling of American boats. BUT as Gibb said they are built different.

Biggest difference is they use a lot of foam to help with rigidity. Once foam starts to break down then the issues will start to arise(approx ten years old usually seems to be the average).

Its kinda like saying a Great Wall is every bit as good as a Toyota. Built for different markets and its that simple. But also different price so for some that's just fine.

 

You do need to do your homework. I saw a guy the other day who had issues with the freight company went bad and he lost over $5000. Then the papers were sent through incorrect and it had to sit on the docks here in Perth for nearly 2 weeks waiting for release. He said he paid $500 a day for that privilege.

 

The way i see it is bring in a expensive model. That way if your costs blow out then you still make stay ahead of the end game (price).