No more shark cull
Submitted by scotto on Thu, 2014-09-11 16:02
Just heard on the radio that col has reviewed the shark cull policy, and the government is now not drum lining for sharks anymore.
I reckon thats just fucked.
crasny1
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Oh interesting
Now all we are going to hear is the Greenies claiming Victory. This wont end well for future issues, even if you are Pro or Anticull.
Like to see the reasoning myself, I like Col but this shows no backbone unless there is a good reason for this decision.
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Geez scotto - now you've done it
Im gonna go make some popcorn and watch this thread explode after your closing comment there at the bottom !
MattMiller
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Agreed
Stupid decision, bloody greenies
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We can still kill the sharks
We can still kill the sharks ourselves.
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Exactly - when they get
Exactly - when they get pulled up baseball bat to the head and they realease quite placidly
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Yep
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Lets see now
We have an EPA which has made decisions when there are vested interests at play in the body that made 25 decisions on major capital undertakings, the government has to pass a special bill to get them out of the manure. We have a power body that spent 300 + mil on a power house that is not needed and the bloody thing still won't go. We have a treasurer who has gambled the states good credit rating on the price of iron ore staying quite stable and high. And lastly we have a premier who is spending money like it is water.
No I wouldn't say it is a stupid decision it fits in nicely with all the other decisions that have been made by the current government.
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how the fuck do you spend money like its water?
Reckon i could pay my mortgage with a bottle of evian?
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True that,Would have helped
True that,Would have helped if the hooks actually went in the water while the whites were around.That would have provided a different result,instead of piss farting around trying to appease everybody with a pc or smart phone.
Whats the difference between WA and Queensland etc arent our beach users as important ?
Am over it,lets see what happens when the first person is taken this summer condolances in advance.
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Oh here we go again......
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Can only hope
That sharks prefer enviros rather than any of us, I work on the mines and what is allowed happen is criminal to the local areas, and yet they are prepared to allow people culling by sharks.
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Shark cull
I'm not looking to start/ or engage in another argument over this topic. I am just suprised to see the comments so far, which don't agree with stopping the baited hooks. I study marine biology, love the ocean and respect the risks of going into the water, also I know the important role that sharks have in our already raped oceans. Just thought out of the general population, users of this site would have more respect and knowledge of how rare a shark attack really is. Anyway just my 10c
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Good bloody job!!!
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Good decision
Good decision in my opinion, even though I used to love catching them I didn't approve of just towing the carcass out to sea and dumping them, that is worse than the Japs finning them on tuna boats.
It didn't do what it was designed to do, catch white pointers, so therefore it failed.
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yep complete waste of money
Rather see my Taxes spent better. Just as Canarvonite said, didn't do what it was designed to do.
Pissing money up against the wall to kill a species that was never a problem. Would rather see the fisheries boat tied up policing fisheries.
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MJ
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Waste of $
A bunch of tiger sharks caught and no impact at all.
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With all the money the
With all the money the government will save maybe they can put on a few extra fisheries officers to catch more of the cheating scumbags out there. Or engage better patrols of the SW where the majority of the attacks occur.
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helicopter flights you would have to say
haven't worked either, might as well can them as well
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it was never done properly to start with
The drum lines shouldve been out by start of september, and start in places like cockburn and warnbro sounds, floreat, cott, etc. I know hardly anyone has been nailed in cockburn, but if this plan was to take out large great whites, then they shouldve put a 50 calibre shell into the heads of the 6 they sat - tagged straight after the snapper closure last year.
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Haha!! good pick up Pale
Haha!! good pick up Pale Ale. Classic
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lets get it right..
The govt hasn't made a decision. An Authority has made a recommendation (based on there not being enough science, research or evidence to prove that drumlines will make a change) to the Environment Minister that the proposal (which actually came from the Dept of Premier and Cabinet- or Col as you have stated) should not be approved.
this doesn't mean that it won't be approved by the Minister as he makes his own decision and can still approve the program. You can be sure that there will be further discussion on this within government in the coming weeks.
but that isn't the end of it either- there is both an appeal process available and more importantly, Federal approval/ endorsement of the proposal required from the Federal Dept of the Environment (as the GW Shark is listed as a vulnerable species at a federal level).
its a bloody wicked political web that needs to be navigated for this program to proceed - yeah it has the first nail in its coffin but its not over yet.
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Unlikely to appeal ,
Unlikely to appeal , according to this media report ..
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/breaking-news/epa-rejects-extending-wa-shark-cull-trial/story-fnhrvfuw-1227055542238
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Cheers
Thanks Chris.
so that rules out an appeal by the dept of P&C so the program is dead in the water then. Pardon the pun. If the govt don't want to appeal then it makes the ministers decision very easy
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Well managed fisheries
Is I what support.
So we have shark hook barriers on local beachs to give beach goers confidence and illl effects on tourism relieved. This "cull" crap was just social media drumming for tears.
Wether it stays or go I don't care. But Im definitely supprised and how badly the thing was managed and dirty on how social media green groups use lies and intimidation to disrupt progress.
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I agree with your last
I agree with your last paragraph Southcity, Either way it was the law at the time and the way these conservation groups handled themselves was a disgrace. To threaten and intimidate people going about their lawful business is bullshit. Hope they never approach me at a shopping centre.
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If it were a cull, the hooks
If it were a cull, the hooks wouldnt have been "in a line" along the shore line as a shield. The set lines would be out in areas where they a re more commonly seen, like around the back of Rottnest
It all started on WA, when Queensland has not only had drumlines, but nets also for 80 years. A total stunt by Sea Shepherd etc.
It was "thugs for hire" If only the uni students running around knew who they working for, but may they did.. Maybe some are looking for future employment.
They should have been charged for interfering with fishing equipment. What sort of fine would we get for touching commercial fishing equipment let alone boat confiscation?
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If the Greens were worried
If the Greens were worried about White pointers they'd be onto the shark netters where all the baby Whites roll out the nets to the floor dead drowned.
But this is not about sharks...
Everyone has forgotten about he oil spill that has been floating around killing turtles, juvenile fish like marlin etc in the North. And that is what all the masturbation is about
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If they wanted to get a white
If they wanted to get a white they would. Was the aim of the drum lines to get whites or target all sharks?
Bend over
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Fisheries couldn't catch a
Fisheries couldn't catch a cold. They should have been chopping up the whale carcasses that had washed up and putting them on drum lines if they want to catch a white.
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Qld
1. they have been putting out drum lines in Qld for the past 20 years but no one made a fuss about that
2. A dog attacked someone or another dog and the dog is put down. Not the dogs fault but the owners.
3. Wait until a greenie or politicians family member is taken by a shark - then see what they say.
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Oil spills, Oil spills, Oil
Oil spills, Oil spills, Oil spills
Oh, have you forgotten, oilspills that killed millions of wildlife, all brushed under the carpet
Yeah, your debating sharks, which have eaten a few people, but you forgot the oil spills that destroyed and are still killing wildlife.
Juvenile species such as marlin dying from the oil and surfactant to break up the poison in the ocean
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What is it with this Oil spill stuff
And what has it got to do with culling sharks or not. Confused!!!!
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http://sharkmanofcortez.com/s
http://sharkmanofcortez.com/shark-protection-its-all-about-oil/
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Thanks Dumper Read it all
Thanks Dumper
Read it all Crasny to glean an insight into shifting people minds to other things.
In marketing its called market positioning
A few people forget WA commercial sector nets about a 1000 tonnes of shark each year.
Why havent the Greens gone after them *roles eyes*
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The shark man has a lot of
The shark man has a lot of very interesting info, and they have a couple of interviews with him in The Shark Conspiracy movie... Very interesting watch. Certainly makes you realise how much power these green movements can get so much momentum on something that does not even exist... Joe public just laps it up like it is science and everyone follows like sheep.
The worst part of this decision in my eyes is the fact that the EPA got to have input... We have the only independent fisheries department in Australia with some of the best managed fisheries in the world along with some of the best in their field fisheries scientists. So why the hell is the EPA (managers for logging and forests) having input on our marine environment? Very confused.
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0 fatalities last year. I
0 fatalities last year. I reckon keep going till it proves otherwise.
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Lot less WA people in the
Lot less WA people in the ocean thats for sure.
Greens campaign hasnt done our dive industry much good. Lot of guys not getting in the water
When I was in Exmouth a bloke was going for a night dive. He said the bronzies were the worry because they gave no warning.
Theres no shortage of sharks in WA yet Greens are giving us a hard time. Attack the state that has done the right thing.
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We are not the problem. Rack
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