electric reel decisions

ok ive narrowed my choice down to

 

Miya Epoch COMMAND X-4PRO

or

 

Daiwa Seaborg 1000 Mega Twin

but will consider others ?

 

what one would you buy and why? what one would last longer ?

the seaborg has more speed

but the miya has more drag

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both good reels

Sat, 2011-07-16 13:29

personally the  megatwin is dual speed, and looks the goods, i have used a tanacom bull and epoch, the epoch was deff user friendly also,

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The Command 4 is a little

Sat, 2011-07-16 14:11

The Command 4 is a little small really, I'd probably go a 6 or so to match the capacity of the Daiwa 1000 sized reels.

Check the top two images in this article on Tackle Tester:
http://www.tackletester.com/2011/07/daiwa-saltiga-dendoh-deep-drop-rods/

Keep in mind that the Daiwas do seem to have some sort of jig function that the cheaper Miya Epochs don't have. Can't say I have tried the jig functionyet in any case.

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Have used the mega twin a few

Sat, 2011-07-16 14:27

Have used the mega twin a few times and are a good reel, the jig function isn't great but an extra option. Landed some big fish and sharks on it and had no problems. Haven't used the others so couldn't comment.

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what about this one will be

Sat, 2011-07-16 15:01

what about this one will be sub $1200

claims 64kg of drag hahah thats crazy

Miya Epoch COMMAND AC-5S(AC5S)

 

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The AC-5S is pretty nice,

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:03

The AC-5S is pretty nice, hard to get for under $1200 though.

It has all the fruit for jigging etc as well as being a bit faster than the tanacom bull 1000. megatwin is faster at top speed though.

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personnally

Sat, 2011-07-16 15:23

 i would stick with the diawa bull 1000, the two speed reel isnt anything special for the extra dollars, the miya's are great but more a reel you stick the rod in the holder and let it do the job

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I don't really understand

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:07

I don't really understand that comment.

I've fished with the Miya Epoch CX-4, Tanacom Bull 1000 and the Megatwin and never really felt any one of them was more for fishing by hand than the gunnel.

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lol

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:59

get a straight butt , and hold it you pussy,lol

hahaha jamie i,ll have to order another rod me thinks,

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Na, the jigging is for when I

Sat, 2011-07-16 18:00

Na, the jigging is for when I need to do some work!

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reply to till

Sat, 2011-07-16 19:48

 the miya have a larger drag capacity, in my experience any fish over 20kg will pull you over the side if your drag is tightened up, as with the tanacom bull the drag will allow the fish to pull line and not you when at full drag

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Haha fair point. Only running

Sat, 2011-07-16 21:03

Haha fair point. Only running 80lb so not really running more than 15kg.

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What reel are you going to go

Sat, 2011-07-16 15:36

What reel are you going to go with Harro?

I was blown away by the specs of these things checking out the catalogues the other day & picking the brains of a local deep drop guru. Slippery slope of tackle addiction, I fear once I give it a go I would be hooked

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Likewise,

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:04

i'm already hooked and I havn't even caught a Cod/Harpuka/Bass or Ruby yet.

I love the idea of hauling these monsters out of the deep. Who cares how deep it is or how big the sinker is, at those sizes you only need 1 to make your day

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i,m gonna get a maga twin liam

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:37

might get 2, for one lucky decky, keep a second handy for the deckie, lol, gettin myself organised now, new sounder coming, trannys and reels, got my rod now thanks to jamie, just gotta order the straight butt for it,

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Nice one Harro

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:40

the wish list keeps getting longer hey?

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 who do I have to kill to get

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:45

 who do I have to kill to get on Harros "lucky" decky list. Im guessing you hey Matty, so how about we go fishing off the shelf next week :P

LoL All this talk about big fish down here, makes me wonder why I havnt managed to see a photo of one from you boys yet :(

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lol

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:56

look at my avatar ray lol,

oh theyr,e coming mate lol ,

the lucky deckie will be the one whom catches all the big squid and hezzas, consistantly for the boat,lol

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Stuff the

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:03

Squid and Hezza's Harro. Should be able to get a few live red things, I hear there like lollypops for the big boys

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oh yer

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:41

cant beat nanny bait,

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I honestly thought

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:08

I honestly thought insinuating that I was gonna leave Matt off the shelf was gonna get a rise before saying I hadnt seen any pics :P 

Maybe by the time Clints boat is fixed we will be able to get out and get onto some of those monsters, Im getting sick and tired of catching baby fish in the bay while clints boat is layed off....Spose it is better then watching everyone else catch fish on clints boat though....HAHAH

 

Squid I can do...Im sure my little tub is big enough to get to some decent squid grounds :P

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yo ray

Sat, 2011-07-16 18:02

ur welcome out anytime bud,

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Hurry back from perth then,

Sat, 2011-07-16 18:12

Hurry back from perth then, maybe your boat will provide me better luck then clints hahaha...

I only go on clints boat with him to help spread the fuel and provide some more fishing for the other boys while I try desperately to fill my quota ;)

If you want bait recently I have been great at catching babys :P

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not a wish list

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:57

its more a "to do list" lol

i,ll order another rod of jamie aswell,

i cant be the only guy on my boat that gets them lol

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i personally belive if i go

Sat, 2011-07-16 15:44

i personally belive if i go electric the only time it will be in my hands is when im taking it  from the car to the boat the rest of the times its staying in the rod holder im going to only use this in 300m and deeper any shallower and im using a conventioal reel

 

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Epoch

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:13

I would say the Epoch would suit you better if this is how you plan to fish.

 

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Miya

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:03

I run two miya 1100 and 3000 they stay in rod holders as they weigh 6 kg and hold 1000m of 200lb braid only use in deepwater but very strong

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I started crying out for the

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:06

I started crying out for the electric after the 6th drop fishing just past the 220 with a Stella 8000. Not racing out to do it again but with an electric then that would all change, slippery slope into 300's 400's & beyond!

Out of curiosity supervisor what boat do you fish out of & where?

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only done 4 trips out but go

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:47

only done 4 trips out but go with a mate in a 34ft bertram from hilliarys

never caught anything other than gree eyed sharks but we will find the fish eventually

have done 350m with a 16vsx it took me 12 mins to pull up with no fish on 3 drops and its really hurting

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We must have done 20 drops

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:51

We must have done 20 drops last run ... and I jiggged every one but one ... it adds up after awhile ;)

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certainly good training for

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:53

certainly good training for your arms and back

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Yeah to top it off I buggered

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:07

Yeah to top it off I buggered my floating ribs the trip before. I was really worried about it, but you can get out of using your abs.

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Just need to emulate the

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:10

Just need to emulate the footsteps of the artist formerly known as Prince

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I'm not sure

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:17

the symbol took those measures for jigging. Bobbing for apples on the other hand

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I think I just broke mine,

Sat, 2011-07-16 18:04

I think I just broke mine, they're still there.

Never heard that prince had his out, I thought the only tranny that had that done was cher.

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Yep that's just nasty!Sweet

Sat, 2011-07-16 16:54

Yep that's just nasty!

Sweet tub to be doing it from, what electronics have are you using to sound out for fish?

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it got a raymarine cant

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:14

it got a raymarine cant rember the model

but its 12inch still only using 1kw i think hes getting a 2kw

i shoud rember the model  first trip out i spent 2 hours playing with the sounder and boy was i sick after that

me in a flybridge head down not good ive been staying down stairs since then

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well its a done deal just

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:10

well its a done deal just ordered and paid for a

Miya Epoch COMMAND AC-5S $1195 delived

hope its good

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Good luck looking fwd to the

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:11

Good luck looking fwd to the pics

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Ahh know exactly which one

Sat, 2011-07-16 18:01

Ahh know exactly which one that was too. Keen to get a look at it sometime ;)

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As Jamie said The Command

Sat, 2011-07-16 17:21

As Jamie said The Command Epoch 4 is small you need to go to a 6 or Epoch 8 but then you start talking $$$$

I was in the same mind of things 6 mths ago I went for the Daiwa Seaborg 1000 Mega Twin

Great reel for the money apox 1k for the Daiwa Seaborg 1000 Mega Twin

I think the The Command Epoch Epoch 8 was around the 2k mark

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strong fighter reels

Sat, 2011-07-16 19:28

Hand made on order by a guy called ken matsuro? But you would be paying drug money

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Miya Epoch COMMAND AC-5S best price

Sun, 2011-09-18 09:56

Can Any body advise the best place to purchase Miya Epoch COMMAND AC-5S or the AT5S is

Any body looked at either and recomment one over the other? just looks to me the AC5S has more jigging functions ?

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Just remember the "5" sized

Sun, 2011-09-18 10:17

Just remember the "5" sized miya epochs are quite a big reel if you intend to use the jigger functions.

Try Ebay dealer fuuta37 for good prices.

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Miya

Sun, 2011-09-18 10:35

Plenty on eBay north834 is also good for 2nd hand have bought 3 from him all good

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i havent used the reel in

Mon, 2011-09-19 19:10

i havent used the reel in anger but took it out last weekend in the 40s just with a sinker to get used to the controls must have looked funny me standing on the boat reading instrustions and dropping a huge sinker then retreving

but must say its a big heavy outfit not really suited to holding onto

it went well was surprised how fast it can go just need to get some fish on it now

must say thanks to till for the rod and filling it up with line will be bass and puka hunting in the very near future

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hey guys do you reckon the

Mon, 2011-09-19 19:21

hey guys do you reckon the old faithful snapper winch would be up for the task ?.i know its not fishing as such but would be good just to check out new ground out while you save up for a electric reel???.