Dunsborough Artificial Reef
Submitted by top notch on Thu, 2015-12-03 14:58
Some photos taken on the Dunsborough Artificial Reef yesterday as a part of Reef Vision.
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Jackfrost80
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Bloody WKW! They're like a
Bloody WKW! They're like a plague
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Dale
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Yep, wrasse city
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Cool pics, those concrete
Cool pics, those concrete lumps look like dollars well spent..............not!
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MattMiller
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Waste of time
plonked them in the middle of a sand desert.
Not surprising that it doesn't fish well for the majority of the year.
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At least they look cool on
At least they look cool on the sounder
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meglodon
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May I suggest that the idea of the nodules
Is to create an artificial reef where no such type of structure exists in order to attract fish and create a fish aggregating area.
And going by the pictures that is exactly what they are doing, look at t5he species of fish hanging around them, they are not your average sandy bottom dwellers.
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Absolutely correct & if you
Absolutely correct & if you look at the science behind the design of water flow to create species from the bottom up & hence why people get stuck into some good seriola's off them then a waste of money it is not. Anyway hater's gunna hate
Well pointed out meglodon
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Yeah That's what I thought
Yeah That's what I thought was thye whole point Mega. Gott say I was surprised to see Dhuies there. I reckon they are a good thing.
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Scotte
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Waste of time and money
Waste of time and money
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would you say the same
about the fish hanging off em ?
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Scotte
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Yes but those fish would
Yes but those fish would be on another piece of ground ..its like having a truck load of rice and throwing in a single grain.
Plenty reef out there
barneyboy
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don,t get what you mean
why would you even bother fishing full stop if fish are a waste of time and money to you. Ya might as well take up golf!!
At least something is being done about ground to fish and making it accessible to everyone. Gives the bloke in a small boat a chance to go and get a feed without having to go to far.
If all of you haters think you can do it better, go for it. There are government grants available to do this type of thing. It won't even cost you anything
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Scotte
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My argument is there is
My argument is there is plenty of ground to fish that holds bulk fish that is natural..
barneyboy
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Sure, however
things like this take the pressure off other areas/spots. it is good to see things like this attracting fish. Cool pics by the way
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What, introducing new fish
What, introducing new fish habitat (that is CLEARLY working) to where there was previously nothing?
Howard George
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Simple Explanation maggot.
The more habitat you have in the ocean the more marine life you have which includes fish. More and more people want to go fishing and catch fish so some pro-active measures need to be taken to meet the demand. This is one way. While I'll agree that 30 modules doesn't offer much but imagine if there were thousands of them placed along the coastline that fishermen could fish on.
Scotte
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Why not just go find some
Why not just go find some nuggets .
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They just don't drop out of the sky....
These things cost a lot of money. There are billiions and billions add billions bits of reef out there. Ridiculous waste of money. Glad to see my licence dollars well spent. Lets set up a fish habitat to attract fish so we can then go and rape it silly.....
West Coast
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You think that is $3 million well spent....
What a waste of $$$. There is no shortage of reef out there. See hundreds of small dhuies diving...and $3m wasn't spent putting the reef there.
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A few old fellas in the
A few old fellas in the jurien mens shed made a artificial reef a 100times better than those things shame its only in 8m for snokellers. And only needed to borrow $70,000. There are crays living in it holes for wrass to breed weed and kelp for squid and Occys to hide in all of which are dhuies favorite food so you create homes for bait and attract tge predators. These things here will get raped and they will take ages to recover from fishing pressure because there is no where for the smaller food to hide. Just surrounded by dessert.
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Have a look
Have a look at http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2013/12/30/3918629.htm
hezzy
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what i like about this is the
what i like about this is the fact that some people got off there arse and actually did something to try to improve rec fishing for others
the result is some rec fishos have a place close to major regional cities they can go in their boat and fish , even if there not catching full bag limits etc , there are boats on these many days of the week fishing off busso and bunbury and will be for decades into the future ,that equates to fishers out there participating and enjoying the experience for literally hundreds of thousands of hours into the future
that beats the naysayer do nothings any day of the week imo
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Spot on Hezzy
Spot on Hezzy
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Very different to the initial footage from a few years back
Does this mean the target fish came, saw conquered and then moved on or were overfished and now there's little more than wrasse left?
www.youtube.com/watch
I think it's important to find out given the Mandurah/Dawesville artificial reef is due to be installed this summer.
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Dale
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Geographe Bay is referred to
Geographe Bay is referred to by some as Barren Bay because there's not a lot of reef. So these man made structures are a great concept.
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Willlo
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talk about glass half empty
talk about glass half empty mindset pretty sure i spotted a dhufish there. Westcoast if you had an idea re how much reef is available to small boats out from bunno and inshore from Dunsborough you may change yr comment these reefs were put there with small boats and families in mind and they have been proven throughout the world to work fish tend to move around eh so not always there
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The glass is half empty....
beacause it has just been drained of $3m. We spend a bit of time in Dunsborough. Have an absolute ball catching big fat whiting, squid and crabs. Never have a problem getting a feed. The area may be a little light on for reef, but you can still get a quality feed. How many pour into the are to catch a salmon. You don't need to spend $3m on an artificial reef. And really do you think anything worthwhile is going to be caught off it...particularly with all the fishing pressure it receives. Start a post 'artificial reef captures' and I think you will find it an embarrassing dismal failure. For $3m I think you can get a lot more bang for your buck. I like what they have done with barra and prawns restocking but if they are running out of ideas get rid of the bureaucracy and the annual fishing licence fee!!
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Glad to see your happy
Glad to see your happy catching your feed of whiting , squid and crabs but the reef wasn't put there for those species.As for worth while well that all depends on the individual. I cant say much re the dunsborough reef but I know the bunno one has produced a few decent fish for crew with small boats and the 3 mill wasn't just for these 2 reef systems, most of it went into research to get the show rolling. These artificial reef systems are used the world over and are proven to work so I cant understand the negativity toward them.Gee it takes ages for our govt to do anything and when they do they r shot down, damned if they do damned if they don't. The more they put in the better I reckon. Remember the coastline sure aint the same all the way along the coast.
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personally..
i would like to see a bigger complex of them. like 1/2 a doz in a row or even a couple stacked on top. i think that would be the game changer!!
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I don't use them as I have
I don't use them as I have my own spots but these get a thumbs up from me.
I know of plenty of tourists using these reefs in their small boats and catching some decent fish. If you are new to this area it is hard to find spots in close to fish.
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There is no pleasing some
There is no pleasing some people.
That is a snap shot of one piece of artificial reef on one day at a given point in time - plenty of random reef fish and wrasse a couple smallish dhu fish and a pink snapper? Not too bad for a snap shot. Could send that same camera down the next week and see a good show of snapper or absoutely nothing. Fish move, things change. I live in Perth and don't fish them, but they they are a great initiative.
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They're great and alot of
They're great and alot of people benefit from them im not knocking the idea of artificial reefs. I just think the project could have spent the money alot better seems alot of people lined there pockets and all rec fishers got were some concrete art in a dessert under the sea. But covered all this a while back.
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Looks Good
Just need more... concrete culvets?
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[They're great and alot of
[They're great and alot of people benefit from them im not knocking the idea of artificial reefs. I just think the project could have spent the money alot better seems alot of people lined there pockets and all rec fishers got were some concrete art in a dessert under the sea. But covered all this a while back.]
hey rob , your not knocking them ??
sheez Id hate to see what you would write if you where then
have you got any substance to back up your claims about the lots of people who lined there pockets ??or are you just shooting from the hip ?? any proof of some wrong doing you actually know about ??
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Im not knocking the idea of
Im not knocking the idea of ARTIFICIAL REEFS, as i said previously the old blokes in jurien made a better reef using reef balls out of a shed and only borrowed $70000 rest was donated. When you do some sums on the price of design, concrete, labour, transport, mould casting and then throw some extra on top to be safe its still not amounting to the dollars spent for this project. It seems like the old get a cost triple it half it and double it twice trick hence why i feel people are lining their pockets. I work in manufacturing and the family business is manufacturing concrete so i understand what goes into making something like this. Fair enough the start up cost would be high like making moulds getting labour in and planning. But once the operation starts rolling if planned well it is just pouring concrete each day and stripping the moulds until transport comes into where you crane each peice on a truck then onto a barge. But just like last time we had this agument hezzy you didnt understand where i was coming from or just didnt care for my opinion, so its either you are too close to this project to understand my point of view or you think these things really are the best thing since sliced bread, in my opinion ARTIFICIAL REEFS are an awsome concept and benefit alot of people, but dropping millions of dollars to the sea bed and brain washing people saying that it would work better than a ship wreck or a bundle of rocks is bull in my opinion, fish dont know the difference it was a dessert before now its just an expensive dessert with something different, then they go on about the science involed, finding a cure for cancer is science making a artifcial reef is just creating habitat for prey to live so the predators can chase and feed.
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barneyboy
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with your last sentence...
Alot of thought and consideration had to go into these to make them work. A shape that wouldn,t move with tide, current and swell. Something that was fairly snag resistant to anchors and peoples rigs. Angling and landing them so they sit the right way in the current. But I guess you already thought of all of that. I don,t think your pile of rocks would last very long in this instance and get washed away pretty quickly. I have seen the ocean move 20 tonne slabs of rock easily.
Oh yeh, you didn't mention the cost of trialling any given idea to see if it works before deciding on a design in your costing!!
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hezzy
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ahh I see now , your in the
ahh I see now , your in the concrete business and didn't get a look in at this project so according to you its gotta be suss with peeps lining there pockets etc ,
you like the idea of artificial reefs , but not these ones , cause you didn't build them lol
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Haha good call nah family
Haha good call nah family business aint that big in scale just the odd small project here and there. Woulda been good for whoever got the contract tho. Anyways thats enough outta me on this subject, all the best to the guys using em.
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Great work to all involved
Great work to all involved in this project!
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Good use of money.
It's literally "concrete evidence" of where our fees are going, and it benefits not only the tourists, as mentioned above, but the locals as well, since it means reduced pressure on their spots.
The only issue I can see is, how many boats would be sitting on top of it, all at the same time, during weekends/holidays?
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Should sink more ships out
Should sink more ships out there that we are alowed to fish on, the amount of fish on the Swan is amazing.
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You can do something, or you
You can do something, or you can do nothing.
There will always be detractors but actually doing something is more beneficial in the long run.
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The aim of the reefs was to
The aim of the reefs was to provide a safe and accessible fishing opportunity to the recreational fisherman by increasing target species such as pink snapper, Sampson fish and skippy.
since deployment, over 50 different fish species have been identified on the reef (quadruple the amout that was originally identified in the area) as well as a comples benthic cover such as soft coral and various types of algae growing on the structure itself.
so far the project has been a great success and is getting used by the public. Every time I have been out to monitor the reef there has always been boats fishing on them, a good sign that the public are making the most of a opportunity that wasn't accessible before.
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Wow I find it amazing that
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Exactly Andy unbelievable!!
Exactly Andy unbelievable!!
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The idea is great
Execution is sometimes less than perfect. Anything put on a sandy bottom miles from any reef is a good thing, I think the only way they fall down is in making them too small. But they will still act as a reference point for pelagics, ( think sambos in geographe bay)they'll hang around the area where they would otherwise not. They may not be a reliable jewie hotspot, but there will be fish where there was nothing before. We need more BIG artificials, like wrecks. Something about 6 miles west of Kalbarri would be perfect, because there is absolutley zilch between 3 miles and 9 miles