daiwa saltist 30

hi fellas new to this particular forum but i was just wondering what you think about the saltist range???

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michael


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G'day Michael

Thu, 2006-10-05 20:43

I don't own a Saltist but a few of the other guys do. You will find we have quite a few tackle rats on here who will point you in the right direction.

Stick around Michael, these guys fish hard and have heaps of fun.

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I was looking at getting one

Thu, 2006-10-05 21:17

I was looking at getting one of these but then I decided to go a bit extra and get a Saltiga-Z. For what their worth I've heard that they are excellent reels.

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Welcome Michael

Fri, 2006-10-06 09:12

G'day Michael,

Welcome to fishwrecked. I haven't used a saltist myself, but my cousin has just bought one and a mate I went fishing with yesterday also uses one. From what I've witnessed they are pretty damn good reels. For example, compared to my line return rate on my Okuma yesterday it was almost a 2 for 1 ratio in the saltist's favour. The only thing I don't like is the star drag, but thats all personal feel anyway.

Hopefully they can give you a more insightful look into the reel. I will certainly be considering purchasing one as my next bottom bouncing reel as my Okuma has nearly seized.

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What Okuma you been using

Fri, 2006-10-06 10:39

What Okuma you been using Adam?

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rods

Fri, 2006-10-06 17:50

what do guys think about the ugly stick bluewater 24 kilo in the jigging range??? to match up with the saltist any other rod suggestions would be great

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Umm.....Michael....are you

Fri, 2006-10-06 19:23

Umm.....Michael....are you Fishcrazy from FWA??

The Ugly Stik bluewater 24kg jig rod is not a bad rod but its still a composite rod with a fair bit of glass in it. Still built like a short stroker......jig rods are meant to be built with much higher reel seat position. So you can get more leverage on the fish and have both hands closer together.

Drop by Oceanside sometime and check out our range of jigging rods from Silstars to our own Jigmasters.

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Oh and the Saltist.....I

Fri, 2006-10-06 19:24

Oh and the Saltist.....I think you've already made up your mind?? which model did U get???

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saltist and fwa

Fri, 2006-10-06 21:47

i got the 30 standard model and yes im..... michael from the fwa forums.... not fishcrazy.

but the rod doesnt have to be an fully jig rod but something which can also handle a bit of a bottom bounce

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I've been bottom boucing

Fri, 2006-10-06 22:20

I've been bottom boucing with a jig rod and Ryan has been as well and for sinker to 20oz jig rods are far better to use than 24kg overheads.

Mine is a Shimano JigWrex PE4 (30-50lb) and Ryan is using his Jigmaster 30-50lb and we both run 50lb braid which is more than sufficient for most bottom boucing situations.

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Have you got any pics of the

Fri, 2006-10-06 22:28

Have you got any pics of the PE4 Jigwrex loaded up Honsu? I know there was a Jigwrex pic posted up but I think that was the 80lb ?

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no I'll try something later.

Sat, 2006-10-07 08:02

no I'll try something later. The second vid of the charter fun had a bit of me hooking up on the Jigwrex.

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size

Sun, 2006-10-08 11:16

does anyone know the width of the saltist 30???

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what braid??

Sun, 2006-10-08 22:32

what size of braid should i put on the saltist 30 im thinking of 80 pound or is that too much???
the cloured braid by the way but grifton excocet the best braid by my books compared to the others ive tried but what do you think

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50lb

Sun, 2006-10-08 23:51

50 is plenty , you only have 11 kilo's max drag so why put 80 when you don't need it , I can't bust 50 on mine unless I clamp down on the spool and hold on REAL tight ( and then the 100lb leader usually breaks first ).

I have fished Sambos in 100 and the derwent in 200m and found 50 all I need, but I am a $hit fisherman plus you can get more line on the reel and that is more usefull than going heavy.

50 lb braid and GOOD knots and you can catch most fish you target.

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30mm spool width, 120mm

Mon, 2006-10-09 12:15

30mm spool width,
120mm complete with from hadle nut to side of reel

the grifton braid is average to say the least

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Grifton

Mon, 2006-10-09 12:23

Not a big fan of the Grifton myself for braid. Also just had enough of the matrix sufix pro, used to really rate it, but all of a sudden it is fraying and breaking very easily even after being washed after use. Grr.

I'm going to get some new 50lb braid for my jigging reel. Not too phased about getting colour coded or not, what would you recommend?

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Honsu's your man for this,

Mon, 2006-10-09 12:35

Honsu's your man for this, he's been helping me decide on some braid for my Z30 I'm going to buy. I'm probably going to try YGK Jigman PE4 rated to 50lb. What reel are you putting it on Adam?

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Spheros

Mon, 2006-10-09 12:43

Going to put it on my spheros 12000fa, going to get it modded and the bail arm spring fixed and at the same time get some new string. Will be taking it in to the boys at Oceanside, just wondering if anyone had any good line recommendations that they have been using lately. I was really happy with the old 50 pound braid I had on there, but recently found it had a heap of weak points through it. Last thing I need during jigging season is to be losing $20 jig after jig, heres hoping they are as thick out there this year so the sinker jig can come back into fashion. I've heard its going to be a really strong Leeuwin current this year, hopefully the sambos still come in good numbers.

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Muscle line

Mon, 2006-10-09 12:55

Box head up in Exmouth swears by this stuff. I haven't found any in any tackle store but certainly looks the goods as far as strength and a fantastic clean and neat laying on the spool.

If I can find some I will probably respool all my braid outfits and get rid of the tuff line which is also fraying a fair bit.

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Campbells has it

Mon, 2006-10-09 13:04

Campbells has it Andy.

http://www.campbellsprotackle.com/store/product.asp?ID=3370

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Campbells

Mon, 2006-10-09 13:09

Now you just have to go and visit Shizz, Andy. Terrible I know, but sometimes it just has to be done, just make sure you leave your phone in the car. ;)

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lol what does Shizz have to

Mon, 2006-10-09 13:17

lol what does Shizz have to do with it?

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Shizz

Mon, 2006-10-09 13:25

Shizz works at Campbells Jay. :) He is also known to have dodgy mobile phone content, something about those tackle store guys!

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ohhh lol I never knew that,

Mon, 2006-10-09 13:50

ohhh lol I never knew that, ya learn something new every day ;)

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line line

Mon, 2006-10-09 15:26

Tufline XP is quite dependable, if not a bit noisy at first. You could look into Varivas or YGK, but its $$, and like you said, you don't need the colours or lines
Other than that, I don't feel confident recommending anything else, as I've either never used it (Muscle line), or its not available locally anyway.

FYI, my budget, basic, non-colour coded fishing line is Spectra Power Pro 80lb, got a 1500m spool of it (thanks ebay) and am quite happy with it, don't mind losing 100-200m of line tooooo much (although its still a bitch to respool)

Pump iron to drop iron!

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"you don't need the colours

Mon, 2006-10-09 15:32

"you don't need the colours or lines"
Either do I but YGK was the only PE4 line I could find that was rated to 50lb and availble locally. Does anyone know anywhere where I can find out what diameter Tuff Line is?
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PE line is rated by diameter

Mon, 2006-10-09 15:51

PE line is rated by diameter so all Manufacturers PE4 would be the same diameter (as far as I'm aware) but variations would occur in the breaking strain depending on how good the quality of the line is.

Kasey and Honsu would be able to explain it better, I'm still learning myself so I could be wrong :/

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Basically PE is a standard

Mon, 2006-10-09 20:51

Basically PE is a standard of measure for braid in Japan. Breaking strains varies between models and brands. Likewise in Oz, PE8 equivalent of Matrix Pro is like 100lb, Tuf Line is 80lb, Whiplash is 100lb+ and fireline would be about 50lb (what it says on the box). So when you ask for PE whatever you are asking for line diameter.

But in most cases it usually PE8= 80lb which is also why our Jigmasters are not rated in PE.

So what was the question again????

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Berkley whiplash in the

Tue, 2006-10-10 09:34

Berkley whiplash in the heavier classes hasnt given me any drama's bui im told it does break about 10% lower than rated. i still stand by the line systems frog braid. But another ive had a bit of a play with is the daiwa TD-sensor tournament line (orange) im fairly impressed with it ATM 30/50/80lb 300mtr's for between $85- $100
Very nice and not over priced

A good comparison of line price ive been thinking of is compared to fly lines in which you only get 100 yards it in excess of $100clams for decent quality so considering your getting three times as much its not relly that expensive

Fireline is SHIT a have to say (sorry fans) ok for the bream boys but for whats being charged for it these days and the life expectancy leave it well enough alone.

Suffix matrix ive never been a fan of, cheap yes, nasty oh yeah especially the 30lb i find too thin of all things

Just my opinion of course.....

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Best stuff

Wed, 2006-10-11 18:29

Best stuff I ever used was Harro's Bionic Braid
Reason non of the tacklle shop guys mention it is they don't sell it!


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A brief history

Bionic Braid came about through a collaboration between Rod Harrison and Don McPherson. They saw short comings in existing Spectra/Dyneema braided and fused lines and set out to make a superline that was both distinctive and superior. They succeeded....not bad that an Australian made product succeeds with a solid American market.

Bionic Braid was the world's first 8 carrier/8 pick braid. Now copied, that formula has seen it establish and maintain a niche with performance conscious anglers who place Australian made over cheap imports.

Specialised applications include -
Deep sea jigging
Fly reel backing
Lure casting trolling, suited to both baitcast and spin reels
Thinner, stronger & more

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Slick Hi-Viz Finish

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While anglers can see Bionic Braid, it is far less visible to fish. Scientific research has established that bright pink is not on the vision register of offshore gamefish and many commonly caught inshore/freshwater fish.

Hard wearing and longer lasting

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Don't know why a few of you jiggy guys don't give it a go - it never let me down on a fish - never!

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