500 plus Fishers

Has anyone noticed how many fishers go out the jetty since the restoration. On Friday night approx 200 fishers and on saturday night 500 plus. All with new $20 squid jigs on rods. Someone has made a killing flogging gear.


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The jetty?

Wed, 2012-10-31 19:55

which jetty?

 

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What jetty? No idea what

Wed, 2012-10-31 19:55

What jetty? No idea what you're talking about mate.

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 It'll be the busso

Wed, 2012-10-31 19:59

 It'll be the busso jetty...I'm guessing

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Busselton jetty

Wed, 2012-10-31 19:59

Sorry. The busselton jetty.

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Thought so

Wed, 2012-10-31 20:02

all the more reason to keep avoiding the place.

Full of either meathead bogans from Hester st or moronic asian tourists.

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HAHA good one Matt! Too right

Wed, 2012-10-31 20:11

HAHA good one Matt! Too right

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 Geez-I thought you were

Thu, 2012-11-01 06:17

 Geez-I thought you were talking about the new Palm Beach jetty,because that's the same,and even worse when the crabbing season starts,brand new crab nets everywhere and then there's the rubbish left,which I pick up on my morning walk and put in the new bins that are placed at the entrance to the jetty.

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a bit less

Thu, 2012-11-01 09:03

Approx 200 people,  more like approx  80 friday  and 200 saturday maybe cause 500 people with 4 to a car is still 125 cars and the car park has cars for the resteraunts so will have trouble holding that many. I travelled down and went out fri and sat. Do many people head out for the mulloway in season

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depends what time you went

Thu, 2012-11-01 19:08

Depends what time of the night you went. I stopped counting near the third scalie and had to park at yoganup park as all the other car parks were full. My mates had to park in the nard car park.

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squid and fish wouldnt stand

Thu, 2012-11-01 19:16

squid and fish wouldnt stand a chance with that lot. sort of place to stay away from on weekends

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it"s not too bad as the

Thu, 2012-11-01 19:28

it"s not too bad as the numbers drop off quickly after about 8pm as they are mostly fishing families that don,t know how to fish. If you go early in the mornings, you can sometimes get the jetty to yourself if your lucky appart from the die hards.

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Glad to hear it's so popular

Thu, 2012-11-01 21:53

Glad to hear it's so popular then. And good to see if families are taking advantage of the easy access for the little ones. Diidn't the council down there try to ban fishing on the jetty?

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Palm Beach Jetty

Thu, 2012-11-01 22:01

Is the place to go if you want to pick up free crab nets, there are heaps of them under the jetty (along with glasses and mobile phones)

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fishing will be banned

Fri, 2012-11-02 23:39

Fishing is banned at the end of the busselton jetty. Rumor has it when the marine parks come in there will some more access taken away from the end. The city of Busselton has recently asked for expressions of interest for commercial sights approximately one third out (section four) and two thirds out (section seven). There was also a plan for a marina from the half way mark to the edge of the proposed marine park on the eastern side. Basically as the city commercialises the jetty, anglers will loose access as commercial activities are not compatible with angling. Probably within ten years.

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More Closures

Sat, 2012-11-03 00:01

I think the next closure will be closing the  Busso.jetty down at night time because there is rumblings within council the ammount of crap that is left by fishers at night time is not a good look for the yuppie tourist. When I say crap I mean human excrement so we're trying to get public toilets installed half way out on the jetty so there's no excuses. The council have been on the air waves banging on about it so I reckon it's just a matter of time.

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thats a shame thenive been

Sat, 2012-11-03 00:18

thats a shame then

ive been fishing on the jetty once with my wife and kids when we holidayed down there a few years ago we were there early in the arvo when it was quiet

then every one turned up to get a few tailor which is to be exoected, we were fishing from the landing which got rather full, which was also expected, then some young indigenous guys turned up and thought it was there right to abuse evryone on the jetty for being in there way they pushed there way onto the allready full landing and proceeded to swear and carry on about their lines getting crossed by other people, i had to take my kids home luckily we allreay had a dozen or so tailor between the 5 of us.

i didnt mind fishing shoulder to shoulder with other people i expected it but didnt need the abuse and foul language. my son asked me why that man was so angry

 

on another note its a shame geraldton doesnt have somthing similar they used to have a big jetty back in the day but its long gone

we from the fishing club drew up a petition to have a jetty built for fishing families, disabled and elderly alike, in response to the petition the local council decided to build a completely useless small jetty in an unproductive fishing area with no input from the public, they have decided that the jetty would best be used to "view" the town from rather than fishing it is designed to run along an allready existing rock wall so the jetty wont extend out to sea more than a couple of metres this is because they didnt want to pile drive any pillars into the ocean sighting money as the reason.

they cant see the tourist value of a large jetty in gero i think it would be a huge drawing card for geraldton, how can a place like geraldton a town built on fishing not even have 1 jetty i dont understand

 

anyway ive had my rant

i think what im trying to say is that jetties are great leave them for the public and build some more of them sorry for stealing the thread

 

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Totally agree Bitten

Sat, 2012-11-03 00:25

I think all of us have witnessed the sought of behaviour you mentioned bitten and there's no doubting the benefits Jetties offer fishers both local and tourists alike but it's a bit unfortunate that the majority well behaved have to suffer for the antisocial behaviour of a few.

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Busso jetty

Sat, 2012-11-03 07:01

sure has a different culture appearing on it that's for sure.  Went out there with a mate a little while back and out of approx' 65 peoples, we came accross a group of 6 Aussies that spoka da inglish, and yes there was quite a bit of mess then.

Maybe a bit of signage suggesting what may come about if the place is continually left in a mess----in multiple languages---then there is NO excuse.

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Busso jetty

Sat, 2012-11-03 08:25

 went down for a holiday with the family. Two youngsters, which should be in school, lazily hang around the first bend. They snapped comments on my walk pass them.  My ignorance obviously frustrated them as they so evidently put it in the only phrases they know. So the question was - should i spoil the trip by explaining to the police why i fed them to the sharks? There were many tourists there, what an impression that left. Having been through that I decided not to take my son on there. So the local restaurant missed out on our business. Get the cops and fisheries on there and get rid of the berley.

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Tourism is alive and well

Sat, 2012-11-03 09:32

It has to be good for the region economically and so the shire need to upgrade the facilities, not chase the tourists away. Sure the local fishos will complain because so many outsiders take advantage of such an iconic structure. The simple fact is that while so many tourists are there then the town is healthy. That can't be a bad thing.

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Having said that Vince

Sat, 2012-11-03 17:25

who do you think paid for the jetty rebuild. Busselton Shire ratepayers, not pain in the arse tourists!

Good for some but not good for all.

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Umm pain in the arse

Sat, 2012-11-03 17:37

Umm pain in the arse tourists. Bring money into the local economy? Bet you'd be real popular with local businesses if you ran a campaign to get rid of them all.

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Your Assumption Not Correct Uncutriggerin WA

Sat, 2012-11-03 17:47

The local community of Busso. are having to give up more and more of their assets to the tourist and their dollars but yet we continue to see tourism numbers dropping alarmingly in previous years. Take the end of the jetty for instance which was closed to fishermen so that the divers can dive there but no one dives there anymore because of the threat of shark attacks so how did the council benefit from that? I estimated it cost the local tourism industry in excess of 1Mil. and the amusing part of it all was that some of the councillors put a dollar value over 10 mil. that the divers generate into the local economy which to me was BS. It was suggested the other day that we are living in a fools paradise here in Busso. and with the council we've got you'ld better believe it.

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not pain in the arse tourists!

Sat, 2012-11-03 17:36

correct me if I'm wrong but dont the "pain in the arse tourists" pay an entry fee to go on the jetty and dosent that go towards

the upgrade and maintainance of the jetty? I would have thought the majority of people on the jetty would be "pain in the arse tourists" I'd hate to see Busselton if no "pain in the arse tourist" went down there, frontier town comes to mind.

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You Can't blame the Locals. fishy fingers

Sat, 2012-11-03 17:57

A few years ago the locals were quite prepared to share the jetty with tourists and went out of their way to promote Busso. as a popular destination but not any more because we've been forced to give up more and more of the most popular ammenities we had access to so now a lot of locals refer to "the pain in the arse tourists ". The whole process of catering for the tourist has gone well over the top and I repeat " for no gain." 

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Entry fee

Sat, 2012-11-03 17:49

pays the wages of the staff who work at/on the jetty and maintenance. The restoration was payed by ratepayers.

There is a difference between 'pain in the arse' and 'normal' tourists. I'll let you work that one out

BTW, I didn't see Busselton disappear during the 2 years that the jetty was closed. It's not the be all and end all of the Busselton region. Just a landmark that tourists flock too.

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Never said that

Sat, 2012-11-03 18:03

I never said the tourist come just for the jetty and I can understand when they do the wrong thing it pisses you off, yes theres more to bussleton than the jetty  but you should have a little more respect for tourists cos in general they are ok, same for anyone who lives in any country towns exmouth etc I hear locals whinging about tourists all the time but if you didnt have them your towns would be a very different place, quieter and poorer, having said that yes tourist should have a little more respect when visitng other towns but it goes both ways.

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Yep Matt well said

Sat, 2012-11-03 18:16

There are a lot of people who'd prefer the "old scenario" - access to the end of the jetty for pelagics fishing etc - Bonito, Salmon, Sbt's, Sampson fish(and Mulloway during Winter) as compared to what is available now. It is ironic that since the Sharks have prevailed into the bay there are less divers too - so effectively the end is visted by far fewer people than it used to - it's also a pity it wasn't preserved to the orginal structural end - that way fishers could have that pelagic opportunity without interfering with the Underwater Observatory. Unfortunately availblity to structures like this are so limited more people are gravitating toward them which then also unfortunately brings the D12khead terrorist/ tourist  and everywhere they go is left a shambles. It just goes to show that there remains an element of our Rec Fishing community who are out of touch with nature and the environment.

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Matt

Sat, 2012-11-03 20:48

you hit the nail on the head, jetty shut down for 2 yrs due to upgrade/maintenance, Busso soldiered on.

Where rubbish is concerned, I just spent 7 weeks on the road and everywhere there was a "Tourist" facility, ie camping ground, there were overflowing bins and crap everywhere.

All the places where there were no facilities, just plain old bush spots, there was NO rubbish, caring, responsible people took it with them.

It's always upgrades that lure the lazy non caring mostly eff wits to the good spots.

Many years back these clowns made an unholy mess at a fishing spot, after they left, my son and I gathered it all up and carefully placed it amidst the rose garden at the main culprits house, with a note.

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Ohhh Yeah

Sat, 2012-11-03 21:06

"Many years back these clowns made an unholy mess at a fishing spot, after they left, my son and I gathered it all up and carefully placed it amidst the rose garden at the main culprits house, with a note."

That's giving to em right back in their face!

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Howard. You need to wake up mate

Sat, 2012-11-03 21:01

Sorry but tourism is so important to your community. You say "you" were prepared to share the jetty. WTF. It's not yours mate. Without the jetty the shire there would stuggle. Look at the broader picture mate and stop whinging. I would be so lucky as to have a problem like that.

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I woke Up A long Time Ago Uncut TriggerIn WA

Sun, 2012-11-04 00:27

When you go to as many council meetings as I did arguing for fishermens rights on the Jetty seeing that it was the fishermen that saved the jetty in the first place and then have to listen to  mindless blowins who reckon they can generate big bucks on the jetty for the local economy and of coarse themselves and see it all ammount to nothing and in reality costing us bigtime and then to be told that fishermen don't have any rights on the jetty I think I've got every right to whinge and when I say I was prepared to share the jetty with the tourists I can only speak for myself but I'm sure there's a lot of other people out there quite capable of speaking for themselves and probably of the same opinion. Looking at the broader picture as you put it UncutTrigger Dunsborough is a far more popular holiday destination than Busselton and they don't have a jetty and the only thing i can put it down to is that it is a much more family friendly place than Busso.A few years ago that wasn't so but now it's so painfully obvious and yet the Busselton City Council continue on this mindless campaign to change Busselton for the worst in my opinion.

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Vince, please excuse Howard....

Sat, 2012-11-03 21:14

Given that almost every rec fisher who resides in Busso and quite a few from around the South West attended a meeting held in Churchill Park Hall quite a few years ago that saved the jetty from demolition which was the Shire's chosen direction at the time I know there are a few people in the region who acted for the greater good of Rec Fishos to voice their opinion loud and clearly enough to dissuade the Shire from that path. Without them its highly likely that a very limited structure would be there in its place and the community would be collectively the poorer for it. So please excuse those people who inadvertantly lay some sense of ownership to it!

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I take your point

Sat, 2012-11-03 21:28

And well stated. Good for you guys who were involved. Shires can be somewhat narrow minded. In hind sight I think they will be thankfull of the efforts you guys put in. To me, the structure is a great one and one that needs to be preserved and uograded. I am sure that the issues tabled earlier are minority issues and can be managed.

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Might pay

Sun, 2012-11-04 07:27

to actually come down here Vince to find out for yourself.

The issues stated here by myself/Howard/Perry etc. have been going on for years and alot in the local community have had enough of the crap we get delt by the local shire and jetty authority. Good on the likes of Howard and Perry for fighting the local authorities in the interests of local fishers, all in vain unfortunatly.

Personally I just stay away from the jetty now, basically a freshly painted eyesore that will be lost to fisho's within 10yrs IMO. The attitude and actions of some are ruining it for the others that respect what OUR $ paid for.

What is/was a magnificent rec fishing structure is turning into a vandalised and disrespected tourist attraction more geared towards generating tourism $ for the coffers than providing a facility for the community to enjoy.

 

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Visitors, fisho's & bogans

Sat, 2012-11-03 21:14

Returned from Busso today. Left nothing but footprints and a few k. Fisho mates all asked if i fished the jetty. Luckily not I say, for my young lad would have been subjected to the language of two bored brats on the jetty whose only amusement is to harras visitors. Glad i do not have to explain what c...t is. Neither would i have to explain to him why we must not make a mess but the man and lady on the landing could leave a heap of spleen, guts and half mullets behind. Yuppie tourists spent $80 odd on a breakfast at the jetty - where the locals are employed. Spleen, excrement & abusive language for a squid, tailor or sampson fish?  Doesn't seem there is much respect for the shared ammenities that is so dearly paid for?

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Vince

Sat, 2012-11-03 23:19

you must realise that some tourists visit a place because they have heard it's a great place to visit and in some cases they move the said destination after falling in love"AS they say" with it.

Pretty much what happened to the once quiet place called Jurien Bay.

Sadly some tourists don't like it the way it is and find themselves on committees trying to change the place.

Why can't these breed of people take the place for what it is, if not go somewhere else.

If  every coastal town had an asset like the jettys in question there may be a little less idle young people "Hanging Out " as we say.

As for the language, this has been a problem on this particular jetty for some time, maybe a swim might help wash their mouth out.

 

Also, Howard is a very emotional chap, but I personally agree with most of his ideals.

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Again, I take what you say and feel for you

Sun, 2012-11-04 11:19

Nice to see the locals voicing an opinion. One which seems to be of frustration. Matt; I have been there many times.

The problem here seems to be that the council is TOO involved. This issue of tourism is not one for the council. Their job is to look after the rate payers. Economic development in the town belongs in the private sector e.g. Chamber of Commerce etc. Sure, the council may pay for infrastructure but the facilities need to be privately managed otherwise decisions become political and not economic. Lots to consider and obviously lots of opinions to manage. So far as the behaviour on the jetty goes then I am sad to say that that happens everywhere. There is a strong presence of dickheads out there, no matter where you go.

 

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